Dawn OOC Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Alright, I'll unlock the Box (stop laughing Jameson, I see you giggling in chat) and let you edit so she's outside. Plus she can watch to see if Kristin leaves with V and run interception if needed.Everyone else, proceed thusly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Done. Sorry for being pissy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Originally Posted By: SalmonMaxDone. Sorry for being pissy. No worries. It happens and yours wasn't so bad I had to shut down the OOC for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueNinja Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dawn, OOCAlright, I'll unlock the Box Man, the stuff I miss when I hit the snooze alarm in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I'm sorry if I caused any trouble - I won't be posting today because I feel feverish and under the weather. I hope I'll be better tomorrow. And keep those pitchforks away from me, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I know how you feel..I'm sick too Feel better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Originally Posted By: VenusI'm sorry if I caused any trouble - I won't be posting today because I feel feverish and under the weather. I hope I'll be better tomorrow. And keep those pitchforks away from me, thanks. *snicker* You can't be sorry for causing trouble...your concept is more or less designed around instigating it.Though I do hope you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 And -someone- has to stir things up, Joani! I think it's great you're playing suc a contentious character, and making things happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karren Gaunt Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Seconded. V is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Originally Posted By: Jules WhiteElkOriginally Posted By: CourierShe got pregnant when V said she would, V spent juice, either V is actively lying or she helped (although James would love to try that again). I do not recall V saying that at any point in Gathering Covens or the PM we had wrapping it up. I do recall talking that Nash would become pregnant after the cleansing ritual... And all that talk was OOC. Watch the metagaming. I'm not hitting you with any penalty (beyond a warning) because its a more fun to see James leap to a crazy, crazy conclusion. Which at this point has happened so often it's practically part of his concept now. Violet telling James she could make ANY woman pregnant, even negating JoAnna's Birth Control. Violet: The Goddess had blessed me with her gift of fertility and she wants me to share it. I've never felt like this before, James. So even if you hate or resent me for what has happened I strongly believe that this is larger than the both of us. I can't be selfish about this anymore because it's about the survival of our species and I want to step up and fulfill my part. The Goddess has chosen me and I shall spread her gift."James tried again, "Most women don't have powers that prevent pregnancy. We've had a birth on base already, there will be others. I think most women have been avoiding getting pregnant for obvious reasons. Jo has an implant. Jill... hasn't been trying to get pregnant." Jill sent her sister after me whenever that time of the month came around. A silly sex game. V's thing is a solution in search of a problem.Violet: "If you want children with JoAnna, I can help you now, James. Birthcontrol won't matter, trust me. I know can do this."......................................................James knowing that Nashwa would get pregnant from the ritual: Dawn: Nashwa's eyes were pleading as she looked up at James ... she was the one among his four who wanted to have his baby, right now. She'd given him so much and asked so little.......................................................Further I think I recall V saying she didn't need the full ritual any more.V's "other lovers not getting pregnant" is from before her (in James' words) spiffy new power. After that we have Jill, and she hasn't slept with any man since the break up.It's OOC knowledge that her power is sex linked, so James doesn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I stand corrected on V's IC passing of power. I will miss things, especially since those happened in fictions several months ago. But keep in mind, Violet is telling James what she can do. Nash buys into the magic so if James believes it then she would. My saying that Nash believes is in no way meant to support any OOC stuff; it is what the NPC thinks, and so she acts on it. She believes and she will react according to that belief, not the reality imposed on the game. And I repeat this point: At no point has V said she was making Nash pregnant ICly. The last conversation on the matter (that was covered) was Nash was doing a ritual to cleanse V before the coven did the ritual to cleanse the site. If V wants to say that she told James that elsewhere, it should be stated as such for me to see.James can believe these things if he wants as well. My point remains: James is believing everything that V says with his only proof being a single pregnancy. That is not proof; that is a single occurance of the desired outcome happening. Max is right that before James's theory will be accepted, it needs a lot more proof. As V is leaving the Refuge, I doubt such tests will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dawn, OOCBut keep in mind, Violet is telling James what she can do.True. But V is a super and James had no reason to doubt her. He just thought the new power wasn't especially useful. In a selfish sense, he might have been right if male supers can father children. As far as I/James can tell, thus far V has *not* gotten "magic" to work. She did a ritual and learned a new power. That's just using ritual magic as a focus or teaching tool for your powers.Originally Posted By: Dawn, OOCMy saying that Nash believes is in no way meant to support any OOC stuff; it is what the NPC thinks...OK, my bad. I'd thought James was picking up on this IC with his uber-perception... which means I've seriously miss played this. Darn it. ... :Sigh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I'm going to give V a chance to post to Kristin before Fox comes back into the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Join Venus and become a goddess Kristin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin OOC Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Nooo Stay in the realm of sanity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargaizer Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Become a monster with MPD! Then you don't have to listen to advice from anyone but you, yourself and... you (darn english not having a separate word for singular and plural second person). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Originally Posted By: SalmonMaxAnd -someone- has to stir things up, Joani! I think it's great you're playing suc a contentious character, and making things happen. Thank you! This means a lot, it really does.Then on with the stirring up stuff!Kristy... come here kittykittykitty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Heads up for this weekend - I'll be at a convention for most of it. Friday and Sunday I won't be online much as I'll be enroute, and the rest of the time I will be having fun (or so I hope). I will be sticking my head into the forums to check on my games, at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargaizer Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Dawn, just out of curiosity, do you need something more from Draygo, or were you just trying to work something up, or were you just too busy elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysti-Lynn Magnussen Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah, Kristin will accompany Violet, Fox, and Jules (and others, if there are any). The positive reinforcement from all the adults is making her feel pretty damned good about herself (and sort of making her forget that pretty much every adult before them has screwed her over).Though Venus' ass-grab did make Kristin flex her ass in surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 No need to roll dice unless Venus is really trying to seduce Sarah. If I'm reading correctly, you're just flirting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I just stumbled over something I wasn't aware until now (and I must say I'm positively surprised).You reviewed your MDV (I know we had some PMs about it) and from your first draft to the latest you made one change which is pretty essential (and slipped my attention).You defined the MDV as a soak which subtracts dice BEFORE the roll is made. IIRC that was not the case in your first draft and thus was less balanced than the current version (I actually like it now).Anyway - two things I want to know/suggest.1st - Are Mega-Dice ever subtracted (I assume not)? Related to that question - which Dice are subtracted first? (again I assume, first your dots and the Skill/power, then your dots in the Attribute?). And what if the MDV reduces the "attackers" pool to zero? Autofail? Or does the attacker get 1 dice to roll regardless?Hmm - my 2nd point doesn't make much sense on second thought. I wanted to suggest if the MDV could be put in the players Signature, but since it can vary this idea doesn't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 MDV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Look here: House Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 That's a link back to the forum summary, Venus House RulesQuote:Mental Defense ValueThis is further modified from Exalted (props to Reven, who brought it to my attention) and Scion. Here’s the way it works:Iron Will no longer negates all social attacks with the expenditure of a Willpower. Those who wish to sell Iron Will back may do so, and we can negotiate what they can buy in exchange. Instead, all characters gain a MDV. This is calculated thusly: Willpower + pertinent ability, then divide by two. The pertinent ability depends on the power being used against you. MDV defends against social powers by creating a soak; the MDV score removes dice from the pool before the check is rolled. Any successes after the roll are counted fully. Those influencing a group of normal NPCs will roll against a general crowd MDV; supers get to check against their own MDV. An MDV can be modified by the following: Sexy merit, Lusty Flaw, Social Penalties from Taint and sexual preferences of the targeted character.An example*Jules is wicked pissed at Morgan, so she decides to seduce Ger to ‘show him’. Ger respects Fox way too much to just bang ‘his chick’, high App or not. He would like to decline, so his MDV applies. His Willpower is a 6 and the ST decides to let him use Rapport as the resistance skill. That is a two for the guy, so his calculations are: 6+2 = 8, divided by 2 is 4. However, Ger is definitely attracted to Jules, so his MDV drops to a 3. Jules takes three dice from her pool as Ger’s social soak. She then rolls her Manipulation+ Seduction. She gets four sux, and Ger can’t resist the honey she offers. Had he not been attracted to women, he would have gotten a bonus to his MDV rather than a penalty. *stats made up to protect the hapless characters dragged into this exampleSocial ShieldIt works just like Psychic Shield, but only adds difficulties to social attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 well odd - but you found the section I was trying to link to, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Originally Posted By: VenusI just stumbled over something I wasn't aware until now (and I must say I'm positively surprised).You reviewed your MDV (I know we had some PMs about it) and from your first draft to the latest you made one change which is pretty essential (and slipped my attention).You defined the MDV as a soak which subtracts dice BEFORE the roll is made. IIRC that was not the case in your first draft and thus was less balanced than the current version (I actually like it now).I'm pretty sure I sent you a PM pointing out the new changes before I made them. Regardless, I agree, this is better.Originally Posted By: Venus1st - Are Mega-Dice ever subtracted (I assume not)? Related to that question - which Dice are subtracted first? (again I assume, first your dots and the Skill/power, then your dots in the Attribute?). And what if the MDV reduces the "attackers" pool to zero? Autofail? Or does the attacker get 1 dice to roll regardless? Mega-Dice are not subtracted unless all of the regular dice are gone (and that'd take a lot of doing). It doesn't matter whether it removes your skill or attie dice; they are all regular dice and therefore the same. If the MDV reduces to zero, then the attacker gets a die so long as his/her attack is at least half of the MDV. If it falls below half, then nada.Does that cover it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Perfectly - and like I mentioned, I'm sure you PM'd it to me before you posted and the little word before simply slipped my attention. I only saw the other, more obvious changes (and that's why I initially thought it was a step in the right direction but still not balanced)Everything is fine now, though. Like I said, I like it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Catharsis is not finished, btw. I just need some more time for the next part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Two things:1) Fictions where moved over, so check the Experience Reward thread to see if you got some candy.2) I've had several people independently approach me about the possibility of having a secondary character in DR. Before peoples' wig fly off their heads, let me say that I am not allowing this YET. The 'yet' is there because this is something I'd like everyone's honest opinion on. Here are the rules that the secondaries would be following:--1) They start as base PCs with no bonus starting xp. They will follow all the starting rules.--2) The secondary character must be approved by me, and I will expect that it will bring something new to the game. It shouldn't be an excuse to have another PC, but rather a way to tell stories in this world that can't be told with your current NPC.--3) Your characters cannot have major interactions, nor can they reside in the same enclave. --4) No xp swapping/borrowing/lending.--5) At least a year of steady posting with your primary. Sorry, new guys. This is a bennie to be earned through time and dedication. Steady means I make allowances for upheavels in life, but not for you jacking off and ignoring DR.Again, I want everyone's honest opinions, even from the newbies because your chance will come. For that reason, I'll accept opinions via PM (which I will post here for everyone to read with no indication who gave them to me) or via the Anonymous posting feature here (you can do that by posting when you're logged out; you merely have to submit an image verification code first). Normally, I frown on such things and ask people to ID themselves if posting while logged out, but in this case, I'll allow it. Please feel free to start talking. I'd like to know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin OOC Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 With these provided restrictions and rules I have no problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z016 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I'm for it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargaizer Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Personally, I think that there's already more characters than I can keep track of, but if someone wants to make more... so be it I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I don't object to the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LydaLynn Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 If people feel they can handle it and since there will be a rule that they arn't allowed to interact with their other PCs - I think it would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 First of all I want to thank you for considering this option. I was one of those Players who asked how your stance on this topic is.Unfortunately point 3 of your list of restrictions totally cancels the idea I was having. While I'm interested in running a second PC I don't want to create a PC in a complete new enclave/environment. It is the established Refuge with it's political and social entanglements that was inspiring me for another PC. Starting over at some other random place wouldn't be the same for me and defeat the purpose of my initial idea.I do understand your reasons for imposing these restrictions but point 3 makes it not interesting for me anymore. If you ask for votes/opinion I would've to abstain to be fair. If I was selfish I would say forget about it, I stick to my single PC.This is on no way meant to criticise your proposed rules - unfortunately they don't allow me to do what I wanted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Isn't the rule is that you can't have two PCs in the same enclave, and V is leaving Fox's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn OOC Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Originally Posted By: VenusUnfortunately point 3 of your list of restrictions totally cancels the idea I was having. While I'm interested in running a second PC I don't want to create a PC in a complete new enclave/environment. It is the established Refuge with it's political and social entanglements that was inspiring me for another PC. Courier is right - with V leaving the Refuge and going to Olympius, the field is open for you to have a PC at the Refuge.The reasoning behind point 3 is simple. I cut my teeth here on the N!Prime boards. There people could make as many PCs as they wanted and you saw a lot of cases where peoples' PCs were best buddies and they could pull off super-awesome combinations because these people always worked together. In a story-driven system, all that meant was some uninteresting "oh-wow-we're-awesome" stories. In a ST-driven story, that becomes a headache for me to create something challenging. That's my reasoning for it - hence why I also said they can't have major interactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Oh, I fully sympathize with your reasons, I honestly do and I don't want to cause any headaches or create an unbeatable superduo (you know me good enough, I'd never do anything like that.)I will have to think about an alternative to my idea and Venus' departure isn't the major reaosn although it seems opportune at this moment. Do you really expect her to never come back? That wasn't my plan actually, although it seems as if she'll get banished at the moment...Anyway, I PM you as soon as I have found an alternative and try to provide you with the necessary details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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