Joani Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Paging Darkling - I'm giving you another day before I move Team Blue forward - a poastie would be really nice, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 In case some of you missed my post in General Discussion. I'm on vacation from today on and won't be home till the 7th if May. I can't tell how much Internet activity I can bring up but I'll try to make an update when necessary to keep things moving. PM in case of questions. So things will be a bit slower for the next 14 das but I'm not entirely gone, just on holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 I'm going to update both Threads tonight before I leave for my holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameson (ST) Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 Good News, I got I-Net access here. I'll update where necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 I'll try to update both threads tomorrow evening. (null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Alright, I'm updating tonight BUT unfortunately I can't edit the post the way I like (not possible on my iPad unfortunately) - Once I'm home I'll make the posts "pretty" but you'll have to do with the raw version until then. (null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Please don't post in the Combat Threads. I currently have limited access to the site and can't edit freely as I wish. (null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Just to be sure I understand how this works: Normally against guns, you roll your Reaction attribute only to defend. Certain augmentations or adept powers or spells might adjust this, but there's no skill add. If you take a full defense action though (forgoing attack) your defense pool is Reaction+Dodge, plus any applicable modifiers. Is that about the size of it? I'm at work now so no book with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 That is correct Smax. You guys have a -2 Mod though, because they are shooting in wide bursts. (null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameson (ST) Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 should we post in initiative order only? or freely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 In Initiative Order please. Your actions for IP 1 was to dive for cover and in some cases go full defensive. Currently everyone has acted once. I need your rolls next to see if anyone was injured. Those with more than 1 IP can act again. I'll give you guys a summary of how combat will be handled including paring rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krul Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Sorry about the lack of roll from Imiri... I was planning on doing it yesterday, but I forgot that I was baby-sitting my niece this friday, didn't have the time to do much of anything online last 2 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Grimm Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Just so you are aware guys, work just took for me this week. I have 5 days of 12 hour shifts starting tomorrow so I don't know how often I will be online for the next several days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 I'm back home! Missed you guys alot - picking things up where I left asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameson (ST) Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 WB. I'm just waiting for my turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 I think you guys have been waiting on me while I was waiting on you hence no posts. Your first round of actions has already passed everyone went for cover, drew weapons etc., while the Chulos fired at you. What I need from you (except from Smax/Valkyrie) are your defense rolls before we move on to the next Pass (which only Grimm and Valk will participate in). There's no need for a specific order - I will take more control next time and blame my vacation for this "delay". Ok please make your Defense rolls and I pick up combat from there. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameson (ST) Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 You told us you wanted us to post in initiative order so I think we have been waiting for whomever is next, Grimm I think, and Jordan has been scarce due to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 ROUND ONE DODGE: [Jeremy] 3:24 pm: Reaction 4 + Combat Sense 2 + Dodge 3 - Wide Burst 2 Jeremy *rolls* 7d6: 5+1+1+1+6+2+5: 21 [Jeremy] 3:25 pm: phew [Jeremy] 3:25 pm: just avoided a glitch [jameson] 3:25 pm: 3? [Jeremy] 3:25 pm: witness? [Jeremy] 3:25 pm: thanks 3 HITS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Caesar's rolls: [jameson] 3:36 pm: Reaction 3 + Dodge 2 - Wide Burst 2 = 3 dice jameson *rolls* 3d6: 2+6+3: 11 [jameson] 3:36 pm: 1 hit [Jeremy] 3:36 pm: you only need 1 hit I think [jameson] 3:36 pm: let's hope 1 hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Grimm Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 My apologies for the lack of posting. My body is still adjusting to working again.... 62 hours in 5 days... I am Le Tired! I will do my best to keep current so you guys don't get stalled out waiting for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameson (ST) Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Glad to hear things are going well(ish). No worries, here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Ok folks - I'm back from vacation and will resume with regular updates ASAP. Thank you for your patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Smax, you are up next after Grimm - I forgot to include that in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 @ Team Blue: If no one posts until tomorrow evening I will move on assuming there are no objections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 *salutes* Hai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 I posted some Clarifications in the House Rules Thread. If you have questions or suggestions just let me know - I'll add them after reviewing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Addendum for Team Red - If you don't have Infiltration you can use Stealth instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 I still need rolls from Caesar, Grimm and Imiri in Team Red. If everyone gets at least one hit you can retreat safely and make plans for your next move. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 [jameson] 10:44 am: blech [jameson] 10:44 am: Sealt, default to Agl 4 = 3 dice jameson *rolls* 3d6: 3+2+4: 9 [Jeremy] 10:45 am: ouch [Jeremy] 10:45 am: Stealth is a skill group [jameson] 10:45 am: hmm [Jeremy] 10:45 am: Infiltration is the skill [jameson] 10:45 am: doesn't mean I have it [jameson] 10:45 am: [Jeremy] 10:45 am: you might have to use Edge [Jeremy] 10:45 am: Jim: Yeah, just clarifying [jameson] 10:46 am: hmmm [jameson] 10:47 am: Spending Edge jameson *rolls* 3d6: 1+4+2: 7 [jameson] 10:47 am: [Jeremy] 10:47 am: [Asarasa] 10:47 am: The smexy Ogre just can't bring himself to be inconspicuous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 @Jordan and Krul - I'll give you another day time to make your rolls and post your actions. If not I'll make the rolls for you and default your actions to what you did last combat. Since Caesar failed his roll it is likely another round of combat will commence. @general - I'm still trying to figure out a smoother way to deal with the extra Initiative Passes some of you guys have. It slows down posting a lot because some of you get to act more than once. One solution would be to get all your actions in advance. I'd try to interpret them to my best ability and make the necessary rolls. If you catch me in chat or post a note here in OOC I can also try to take that into account, should you change your mind before I get to post. Acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Since init passes occur in init order, think of them as turns in which not everyone gets to go. So like this: Round 1. Init pass 1 - everyone goes in init order. Init pass 2 - anyone who has 2 passes goes in init order. Init pass 3 - whoever has 3 passes goes in init order. Round 2...and so on. Most folks have 2 passes, but only a handful have 3, so each pass speeds up (less participants). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Since init passes occur in init order, think of them as turns in which not everyone gets to go. So like this: Round 1. Init pass 1 - everyone goes in init order. Init pass 2 - anyone who has 2 passes goes in init order. Init pass 3 - whoever has 3 passes goes in init order. Round 2...and so on. Most folks have 2 passes, but only a handful have 3, so each pass speeds up (less participants). This doesn't really solve the issue I was trying to address. Unfortunately it is not the case that it speeds up - the opposite is the case. If every combat round gets bogged down by 1 or 3 PCs with Extra IP passes which I have to resolve in Order of Init those with just 1 IP have to sitout 2 to 6 posts at least before the next round they can participate starts. What I'm looking for is a way to speed this process up. The last combat showed that as soon as one of the faster PCs with more than 1 IP who can only post once in a week drags combat along over days which is unfortunately a bad thing. If combat virtually takes for ever (actually just a few seconds pass but instead people wait days until things move on) then I see Players losing interest in continued participation in this game. I want to avoid that. But since combat is not avoidable in SR we need to find a better streamlined version of Combat for these boards. Alternatively I'd set hard time limits - 24 hours during combat - if you do not post by then you either lose your IP or I default to attacking the next enemy instead. We have to agree on something. Playing through the whole process step-by-step is not an option. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameson (ST) Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Unfortunately I really don't have enough of a handle on this combat system to be able to suggest fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Xiao Saori Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I suggest what I've been doing with combat. You have each person do all their attacks/actions. Then as the ST, you put together one post which puts it all in order and together. You allow players to adjust if needed, as an example I had one PC negate another PC's heroic surge unintenionally in Magi. I simply allowed the first action to happen, then let the PC to rescend his actions, keep his HP and we moved on. It can be a headache, but you give everyone 2-3 days to post, then you reply as ST, and it's on the next round. Of course, this may not work for SR; having never been in a combat for it before, I have no idea. Those are just my experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 We could try that and see how it goes. In most cases a person has a decent idea of what they want to do in a round up front. Then, if the situation changes in mid-round, as long as we have the option to adjust our declared actions to react to it, I'd be fine with declaring up front to save time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Cain Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 For those with multiple actions have the character simply post all their actions at once. If another PC or NPC performs an action that negates another PCs move simply move the action to the next logical target. So, if I was going to shoot Jonny X on my pass 2 Kemuri killed him on pass 1, simply move the attack to the next logical target, especially if a team member needs the assistance. This emulates how professionals would handle things without everyone having to re-read the entire battle to just to make the sure their attack isn't wasted. If an event arises that opens up for a different action (like hacking instead of attacking) simply notify the PC and allow them to switch actions, it's faster to re-roll one actions than wait for someone to re-post an entire event the next time they are available. When Pass 2 rolls around I don't need to roll an action (I already did in my first post) I simply follow suit with the flow of combat and just type in my awesome flavor text, if I'm not around to do that, Joani or someone else can since my action results are already posted. If the action needs to change due to circumstances, Joani can make a call and change the action as need be (Like Chunin defending an attack that could have killed him). We'll have to trust him. Since PCs can go on defense anytime it still allows us to assess what's going on and escape heavy attacks if need be. This way you can have an entire rounds worth of combat in one post from us, read it over, sum it up, and just move on from there. PBP is a little harder than table top when it comes to combat and communication. We can't just reach over the table and slap Max for using a grenade launcher as a sniper rifle, we have to bend and even break a few rules to see to it things flow smoother. What takes us 3-5 minutes at the table usually takes us 3-5 weeks here, because the rules are designed to be used at a table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...but...I LIKE my grenade launcher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameson (ST) Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I approve. At the very least it should make things go a little quicker, ideally a lot quicker. Also, if I can suggest, Joani if one player's rolls are the only thing standing between you and an update you should make the roll for them or penalize them slightly and move forward with your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joani Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 Thanks for the feedback guys - I will update SR later today and add a summary of how combat will be resolved in future in the House Rules section. @Jameson - your suggestion will be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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