Hero Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Originally Posted By: TransonicActually, in thinking about it, it's not a very good idea.Mainly because I don't come out of costume. Or at least a costume. I here ya, Transonic. That's the downside to a secret identity. You've gotta keep it secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-Happy Scientist Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Coyote, I think you misunderstand Kara. She's a philanthropic club owner who happens to do some pornographic films. That's totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenshire Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Originally Posted By: MisterERavenshire, does that mean you are going to still jerk off then lay limply next to your wife before going to the office and promoting based on Tits and Ass? Jerking off hasn't been a worry since I became a nova. If I promoted based on Tits and Ass I'm sure one of the other women in my life would kill me, so that's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Coyote-Mad Scientist Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Originally Posted By: CaduceusThe Coyote, I think you misunderstand Kara. She's a philanthropic club owner who happens to do some pornographic films. That's totally different. You should say that out loud to your mother, and see how 'different' it sounds to her. And it is a matter of public record that she was a porn star first and a philanthropic club owner second. Also, it should be noted that philanthropy never pays you back... it's not like the US gives you tax breaks because you give to a charity or anything. So of course the fact that she is still damaging the image of women around the world is totally offset by the fact that she gets a tax break through charitable giving gives to the poor, the hungry, the downtrodden yearning to be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-Happy Scientist Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Coyote, I was joking. Its obvious you don't want to give Kara a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Coyote-Mad Scientist Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Originally Posted By: CaduceusThe Coyote, I was joking. Its obvious you don't want to give Kara a chance. The 'joke' clearly wasn't, as it was meant to be funny. And yeah, I don't want to give Kara a chance, because I think I'll be wasting my time. As I've stated before, people rarely step outside their stereotypes; those that do, get noted and treated appropriately. I've seen nothing yet from Kara to indicate she's anyone special. And as she's stated, she's not even trying to break out of her stereotypes. So I think we're good, actually; we understand each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changeling Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Coyote, While you are certainly entitled to your opinions, you really should stop placing others into little boxes. In doing so, you show that you are not able to think outside of the proverbial 'box'. Begin by looking at others as individuals, who are entitled to live their own lives as they choose, and not stereotypes, who needs to be lectured by their betters. Once you do, you will not seem like a totalitarian who wants to tell others how to live their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenshire Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Changeling, I seriously doubt that CMS has any problem thinking outside of any box. We may disagree about Kara (and isn't it grand that we are free to disagree), but I've never known her to tell anyone else how to live their lives.So, she doesn't agree with how Kara lives her life. She isn't the first and is unlikely to be the last. It hardly makes her totalitarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Light Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Kara, I'm happy for you! I wish I could help out, but I'm currently unavailable. Good luck though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changeling Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I was pointing out that she is belittling Kara. Let's address the totalitarian aspect, sinse that is a contentious issue.It seems, from what I have read, that The Coyote objects to what Kara represents. But what Kara represents is choice. A choice of what kind of life she leads. So therefore, if I oppose, and belittle the life someone chooses to lead, am I not opposing choice? To oppose choice is to oppose freedom.A totalitarian does not like it when people make choices they disagree with. They will even shame others into compliance. Is that not what Coyote is doing to Kara? Given the power, they will force others to obey their will.It is a mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Light Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 But Coyote isn't forcing Kara into her way of thought, she is just objecting and mildly insulting. You can't make the distinction of totalitarian until someone does something totalitarian, otherwise you are just wrong. Not all assholes are totalitarian, but all totalitarians are assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenshire Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Originally Posted By: ChangelingIt seems, from what I have read, that The Coyote objects to what Kara represents. But what Kara represents is choice. A choice of what kind of life she leads.Agreed. Mind you, I'm not a huge fan of the porn industry myself, but I certainly accept that is the avenue some people take.Originally Posted By: ChangelingSo therefore, if I oppose, and belittle the life someone chooses to lead, am I not opposing choice? To oppose choice is to oppose freedom.No. To oppose someone's life choice is not to oppose choice. How could a jury find a defendant guilty of a crime without opposing their choice?I oppose the life choice of those who chose to become killers (especially when they are trying to kill me), but this doesn't make me a foe of choice either. You are painting with too broad a brush.Originally Posted By: ChangelingA totalitarian does not like it when people make choices they disagree with. They will even shame others into compliance. Is that not what Coyote is doing to Kara? I haven't seen CMS threaten or shame Kara. She has stated her position on the porn industry and her distaste for what she sees Kara representing. Isn't CMS allowed he opinion?Originally Posted By: Changeling Given the power, they will force others to obey their will.It is a mindset.CMS is a nice young lady who disagrees with us. Its a huge leap of conjecture to think that if she had the power she would be breaking those who opposed her to her will.It is best to stop tyranny sooner rather than later. It is also easy to stifle the opinions of those who oppose yours by claiming to be fighting tyranny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Coyote-Mad Scientist Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Ravenshire and White Light, thanks for the assist, but honestly, if he thinks me a tyrant, let him. Women are often maligned when they choose to have forceful opinions. But to be completely clear, let me address a few points:1) I am no tyrant. I am also not silent in my views.2) If my views shame Kara, then good. I don't believe they will, as she has shown no shame to date. And truth be told, I may come to admire her for that, if her stubbornness comes from strength of character rather than stupidity. I have not seen strength of character, whoever.3) I do belittle, which is not the same as opposing. I make no effort to stop her, or to stop any of the other stupid or ignorant people who hurt others through their actions.4) I hate tyranny. My racial history is rife with it, and I have no desire for it in my personal life.5) This is how free speech works. We often disagree, and that doesn't make either of us tyrants.Any further posts that attempt to equate my expression of opinion with tyranny can be shoved up the ass of the poster and lit on fire. Thank you - that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonefish Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Originally Posted By: Coyote Oh, I just have a thing against women who buy into or at the least enable the porn industry. I dislike porn because it allows men to perpetuate treating women as sexual objects, things that can be used and discarded. She and women like her allow men to continue to treat us like shit, and worse, she's a minority doing it, which only feeds further into the social stratification of the minority female. I deal with prejudice because I'm a Navajo, and because I'm a woman, which makes me twice the "Other" to the fat, white men who run the world. And so long as Kara and women like her spread their legs and smear themselves all over some camera so that old, crusty white men can jerk off and fantasize about living blow-up dolls before going off to lay limply next to their wives and then go into the office in the morning and give promotions based on Tits and Ass, I'm going to be here to remind them and everyone else that they are part of the problem.Hey, I like porn. Without it, and strippers, I wouldn't have a sex life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton the Smith Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Being a guy, I'll say that I think about sex once every three minutes. Porn as an alternative to actual interaction, like the OpNet. Fun, eh? But in all seriousness. If people want to live their lives doing whatever, good for them. Nothing like people who complain about others, than those who complain about the people complaining about the others.Does that make me the guy who complains about people who complain about people who complain about others?Anyway, Kara. When is auditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Kara Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 Originally Posted By: TransonicAnyway, Kara. When is auditions? Auditions are a few hours away from being announced; I'm arranging for a place to hold them in Miami. From some of the interest we've gotten, we're going to have a lot of people showing up. I know that some just want to try, and don't have a shot, but they're still trying, and we'll try to accomidate them.I'll post in this thread once we know where; when is going to be October 14-16; that's a Wednesday through a Friday, 9 am to 5 pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Stone Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Kara, if I may, if you wish to be taken as a 'serious' actress and seperate yourself from the 'acing' you've done in the past, you may want to consider not referring to yourself as "Caramel Bath".It hardly does you justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Kara Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 I'd honestly forgotten what my profile name was. I just stopped paying attention to it. There, fixed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenshire Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Damn, should I change my profile too?Daniel is less of a mouthful and I get tired of telling people "Yes, Ravenshire really is my last name ... honest."Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Kahu Ahi Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Bah, all this discussing about who is right, who is wrong, why people are screwed up and why all the cops are facists just makes me yearn for the good times.Anyway, Coyote let the poor girl do wathever she wants, please? She is going to pay me with peanuts to be in the movie, and you know I love my roasted peanuts. And Transonic? You could compete in the auditions against me, but I can promise you that you will lose.I'm out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Kara Posted October 6, 2007 Author Share Posted October 6, 2007 Alright, the venue in question is going to be the Jackie Gleason Theatre of the Performing Arts, which are kind enough to let us use their facilities during the day. It's open casting; just come and get your number, and we'll take them in order. Copies of the script will be available, so you can get an idea for the parts we're looking for. I look forward to seeing you all there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alptraum Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 You're a whore and you'll never be anything but a whore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Kara Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Originally Posted By: AlptraumYou're a whore and you'll never be anything but a whore. Funny how that lacks sting coming from you. Try again, sugar... thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterE Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Kara, thanks for the chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Kara Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Originally Posted By: MisterEKara, thanks for the chuckle. No problem, sugar. I wasn't trying to be funny... ok, maybe a little. Glad I could make you smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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