CHAMBO99 Posted November 9, 2001 Share Posted November 9, 2001 we have just started an ace game of noir yes the rule system needs to be looked at but the setting is great.we started out as punk kids in 1919 after the first world war has just more or less finish, we are really enjoying the setting as one false move and your character gets cement shoes and a nice dip in the ocean but what i don't like (but is funny) is that the games master has made me role for the baddies and i have never had such good roles in my life and of course have knocked the players characters for ten in this boxing match including my own (you wait admin) i will seek revenge.chambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 9, 2001 Share Posted November 9, 2001 I have to agree with Chambo on this, the game Noir is great as a setting, but the rules are a bit (erm) quirky........Im sure over the coming weeks (months?) of running Noir I can make the modifications where necessary to iron out the inherent problems with the system......On a side note though, for the 'life of crime' side of the 1920's era, Noir is OK as a supplement for Adventure! if you wanted to go down that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Mal Posted November 9, 2001 Share Posted November 9, 2001 Not wanting to float my own boat, blow my own horn or erm... roast my own... err... turkey, but I just wanted to mention that I managed to save the game by knocking a guy, not just out, but clean off the floor.all that combined with the fact that I'm the weakest character in the group.lay yourself before me and worship thy lord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 10, 2001 Author Share Posted November 10, 2001 just like to add to mals comment that yes he is probably the weekist member but he fudged his roles (because when you role a six you get to role again) and that is what mal did, again, and again, and again we could not believe it the so & so.chambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 10, 2001 Share Posted November 10, 2001 you mean he was lucky with his rolls - he didn't 'fudge' them. Fudging implies cheating chambo - be nice, you've been told once already my friend..... :sly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 10, 2001 Author Share Posted November 10, 2001 sorry mr adim sir, i am just bitter that mal didn't get knocked out but i did and there go i lost my hard rep in the game it's all very sad.....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 10, 2001 Share Posted November 10, 2001 no worries matey - but lets keep things civil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 11, 2001 Author Share Posted November 11, 2001 we will however strive to become gangsters and own little italy and i will get my rep back (or die trying) ??? chambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 11, 2001 Share Posted November 11, 2001 To be honest, the fact that the core rulebook really lends itself to 'starting small' and working your way up - i was in 2 minds as to:1) Start the characters off as 'gangsters' with a bit of history behind them2) Start from the very beginning, when the characters are young kids who will eventually make their mark.I went for option 2 - think the flashback scenes in Godfather Part II, or the beginning of the film 'Mobsters'.I suppose my choice to freeform the whole thing (instead of actually making any notes whatsoever) made me go for option 2 above - i've found that this lets the players determine the entire game - what its about, its theme, its mood etc. Sure, its a lot more work when you have to think on the fly, but I freeformed my 'Invasion of Absolute Zero' Trinity game and that seemed to work.What's ahead for our Noir game, dunno really - i hope that the freeform choice pays off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Mal Posted November 11, 2001 Share Posted November 11, 2001 :sneaky Fudging... FUDGING!... FUDGING!!!!honestly, I go away for one day and when I get back I get this kind of abuseJust because I'm the most useful and amazing member of the party, oh well its tough at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 11, 2001 Author Share Posted November 11, 2001 ok mal calm down, yes you are our hero, you saved us from taking a cement bath (for now) as on wednesday we are in big trouble and i hope and pray that your lucky roles carry on. chambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 Did I just here "Mal" and "Hero" in the same sentence? ??? Nah... Baaa Is Noir good then? Worth buying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 Too early to tell....Seems OK so far, but its a lot of legwork as the GM...What about you guys (Mal, Lo Mai, Chambo)?Whadday think of the game/setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 12, 2001 Author Share Posted November 12, 2001 its great if you want to play in a gansters setting, as your game so far admin brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Mal Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 yes 'Mal' and 'Hero' go together quite nicely don't they.As for the game it is very good, the rules certainly seem nice and easy to get on with and the settings got an awful lot of potential to it by being stereotypical but only to the point of helping the characters imagine their surroundings and not to make things humourous and over the top.My only complaint so far has actually sprung from my victory.you see while I agree wild flukes should happen on the odd occasion (it keeps things interesting), in this game I have a 1 in 6 chance of rerolling dice everytime I roll (the game involves getting a dice pool made up of the points assigned to the relevant trait and rolling that many D6). the example I use is my victory in the boxing match.My character was never designed to be any good in a fight, hes a card sharp, he thinks, in games terms out of a possible 5 points he could have in brawn he has 1 point (and thats compulsory) and yet with one punch, several re-rolls for the sixes later he generated a damage attack of 92! bearing in mind that the average thug only has a body rating 20-30Think on't mighty GM for thou standeth accountable! :colgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 13, 2001 Share Posted November 13, 2001 Accountable eh...... Sleepy Maol has a point about the roll an six and reroll thingy.....I'm toying with the idea of only allowing a six to be rerolled once, Ie, get a six, reroll, if you get another six then that's it - a six. No more rolls on that dice..But I dont think we've played it yet to see if pulling that rule will affect the game in other ways...... Mebee as we get into it the system 'requires' this kind of 1 in 6 chance of a fluke?Dunno, whaddaaya you guys think? Perhaps the last two sessions were just very very lucky for dice rolls.I mean, calculate the odds of rolling all those sixes in succession?In honesty I'm not yet sure myself..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 That happens in the Old Star Wars system as well. I would ditch it if I were you - it does unbalance the game. I know that heroes should be able to perform amazing feats - but sometimes it does get stupid. Gotta draw the line somewhere! Yin Yang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 As our next game is tonight... i'll make the rules modification and see how it pans out tonight....It'll be a good test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 Have fun... Good to know that we will not have to hear of Mal actually being the hero again. :tounge2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Mal Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 How wrong can one person be! Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 Ha! Your smiley didn't work!!!Just to savour this -I can do them- Devil Sorry for being petty...Have fun Mal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 Hey Aeon..you made Aeon Council level...(((drum roll)..... does that mean you're 'important' know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Mal Posted November 14, 2001 Share Posted November 14, 2001 Forget that, how dare Aeon think that I could possibly have done something wrong! I...errr....meant to write devil, so there. :lookaround Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 Quote from admin, posted on Nov. 14 2001,17:58Hey Aeon..you made Aeon Council level...(((drum roll)..... does that mean you're 'important' know? Well, I have to keep up with Mal...Can't have him being the most important board member now, can we? Thumbs Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 15, 2001 Author Share Posted November 15, 2001 last nights game was brill we are well on our way to being crime bosse's.... well rich is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 15, 2001 Author Share Posted November 15, 2001 but as for the dice thing it sort of worked and it would if our characters was harder but at the level we are we don't succeed as well as we can hope i.e mike as he only could role one dice last night there is no way he could have got 14 to pass. so admin said if you get a six and you role a six again then you get one more role and thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 I suppose it is a case of the balance between ludicrous actions being taken, and the possibility of heroic actions being performed, that has to be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 Reporting back after the Noir game last night..as Chambo said, we started off with disallowing the roll a six and keep rolling idea, but quickly changed that as it was a bit too extreme.We ended up with you can only re-roll a six once and that has seemed to work so far..... So if a character only has one dice then they can at least have a chance of getting upto 12......The 'ideal' target number is 14, but modifiers can make that anywhere from 8 to the upper 40's, so a maximum of a 12 with a really useless dice pool seems fair...Also, there is another trait called 'Moxie', that each character get at least 1 of on character creation. Spend 1 moxie gets 1 extra dice on an action, which is 'replenished' at the beginning of the next session....seems to fit nice and snug now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 15, 2001 Author Share Posted November 15, 2001 nicely explained admin better then i could and tried to do (as usual) ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted November 17, 2001 Author Share Posted November 17, 2001 i would like some ideas form non noir players to tell me how they would set up from a nobody to get to say the level of a gangster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Mal Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Chambo , What you need to do is first get all of your new business partners in a room together . Then have Mrs Baldasarre bake a VERY LARGE CAKE "I hear her two gunman special is very nice" then get it delivered by a couple of lovely Itaian girls fresh off the boat. No roll player can resist that oneOh yeah ! and this is immportant DO NOT BE THERE !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted December 7, 2001 Author Share Posted December 7, 2001 Thanks for the advice, Rich, last time i took your advice i my character got beaten up. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffDeeKay Posted December 12, 2001 Share Posted December 12, 2001 Chambo, your character got beaten up because you are, like many of us, extramly foolish and listen to what the more vocal members of the group say. :Thumbs Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon Posted December 12, 2001 Share Posted December 12, 2001 It does happen alot, doesn't it?I'm lucky that my normal group do not have any particularly dominant members, unless we are RPGing it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Mal Posted December 16, 2001 Share Posted December 16, 2001 It's not about being vocal , if a someone asks for advice tell him what you think . How he chooses to act on that advice is up to him . However the good thing about an RPG's like NOIR is that you can get away with leading poeple astray in the name of humour or to advance your own plans . As the name of the game would suggest its not all summer days and fluffy pillows , there are some bad bad boys about . :Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted December 16, 2001 Share Posted December 16, 2001 yeah - and thats just the NPC'sWait to you meet the PLAYERS - dodgy bunch of bastards they are! :colgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMBO99 Posted December 20, 2001 Author Share Posted December 20, 2001 at the end of the day i do it because it will make people laugh and have a good time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needle Posted January 6, 2002 Share Posted January 6, 2002 Gentlemen, I myself prefer some of the comics that .50 cent bins are made of. Yeah, I get alot of hassle from the snotty comic fan boys but hey. I've found some interesting series.Favorite Graphic Novels-Batman the Dark Knight ReturnsElektra the Assasin.Marvel Reprints 1939-1948.Crisis on Infinite EarthsRonin. Wolverine & Havok.Earth XKingdom Come.Batman DigitaL justiceThings Found in the Bottom of my Comic BoxAll of the Marvel U.K. TitlesEvery First comic that ever appearedEpic Magazine entire series.Hangs his head in sham.....E.F. Fanboy. Such is the state of my collection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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