z-Kara Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Have at it. I'll add my thoughts later:Originally Posted By: The JackalOriginally Posted By: Caramel BathWhy, thank you, sugar. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.You are a business woman, and this is a calculated kindness. Anyone who believes otherwise deserves the fiery fate which awaits them.Originally Posted By: CaduceusIC:You make it sound like porn stars aren't real people with real friends. They are and if you would look past your prersonal bias long enough to know one, you would understand that. These forums are filled with would-be saints, aren't they? So overflowing with the very milk of human kindness, filled to the brim with infinite patience and understanding. I wish you could actually read what you post here with any degree of objectivity.My compliments to your PR teams, and my sympathies to those who actually accept your masturbatory attempts at philanthropy at face value. Originally Posted By: Robert J. LambertOh come on Jackal, lots of people here get paid a lot because they can do stuff others can't, can you really think everyone can spend as much as they are paid? I'm getting a very generous salary from my employer, and I don't see why helping the Orphans is such a bad thing.If a child were to be presented to you, parentless, starved and mistreated, would you not do something to help him, even without a reward? Originally Posted By: Josh BrickmanIt's a tough life being a nova, much less an elite. Every day, people line up hoping to give me more money than I can reasonably spend. This is as good a cause as any, and the potential reward adds a lot more spice to the game than any other I've come across. Originally Posted By: The JackalOriginally Posted By: Robert J. LambertOh come on Jackal, lots of people here get paid a lot because they can do stuff others can't, can you really think everyone can spend as much as they are paid?Agreed. In Ms. Bath's case, that "stuff others can't" do seems to be a dizzying array of sexual activities. I hardly think that merits her any sort of humanitarian status.Quote:I'm getting a very generous salary from my employer, and I don't see why helping the Orphans is such a bad thing.The Orphans? You sound as if there's only a tiny, sniffling band of them huddled in a Dickensian attic somewhere. How patently ridiculous. Consider the plight of child soldiers, of ten-year old girls raped by elders who believe only sex with a virgin will cure their disease-ravaged bodies, of victims of attempted "honor" killings... Even Miami remains a drug-infested cesspit in spite of the pretty colors entrepreneurs like Ms. Bath paint over it, and you would be wise to consider precisely which poor, beleaguered little tykes will actually benefit from her questionable philanthropic endeavors. "The orphans," indeed.Quote:If a child were to be presented to you, parentless, starved and mistreated, would you not do something to help him, even without a reward? Yes. I'd point out to him that self-sufficiency is a necessity for survival, and deal with his "presenter" in an appropriate fashion.Only a sadist of the highest degree would remand a child into my custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Brickman Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Quote:If a child were to be presented to you, parentless, starved and mistreated, would you not do something to help him, even without a reward?That question wasn't addressed to me, but I'll answer it.It has happened, more than once, and no, I didn't do anything. I could say (truthfully) that there is a bottleless well of need out there, far more than I can even start to address... But that's a cop out. The truth is it isn't my problem. I can admire Caramel for doing what she's doing without making it my problem. I don't know if that's selfish or just sane, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Stone Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Originally Posted By: Josh BrickmanThe truth is it isn't my problem. I can admire Caramel for doing what she's doing without making it my problem. I don't know if that's selfish or just sane, but it is what it is. Life hands us all a poor hand from time to time. Some certainly more than others.I hope Mr.Brickman that you never have to hear "It's not my problem." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Brickman Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Originally Posted By: Gabriel LawI hope Mr.Brickman that you never have to hear "It's not my problem."So do I. But it will happen. But let's reverse the question back on to you Gabe. "How do you choose?" Who do you help out of the goodness of your heart and who do you pass bye? And if your heart bleeds real easy, then why aren't you working for the Project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Stone Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Originally Posted By: Josh BrickmanBut let's reverse the question back on to you Gabe. "How do you choose?" Who do you help out of the goodness of your heart and who do you pass bye? And if your heart bleeds real easy, then why aren't you working for the Project? A fair question Mr. Brickman, very fair indeed.Q. How do I choose?A. Simple, I listen. They say that we should always trust our instincts and that they are rarely wrong. I know I cannot help everyone in the world, I'm far from that arrogant. However, what I can do is listen very carefully for that one soul from time to time that calls out to my heart. It can be anyone, an aging man, or a young woman. Anyone. And all I do is show them what it's like to be the person receiving the kindness and compassion from another human being, and ask that one day they do the same and expect the same from the person they help.And so on...You see Mr. Brickman, fundamentally there is nothing wrong with our world. Just the people. It is lack of love for ourselves that inhibits our compassion toward others. If we make friends with ourselves, then there is no obstacle to opening our hearts and minds to others.Q. If your heart bleeds real easy, then why aren't you working for the Project?A. Why? Why is it that people believe that in order to do decent things you have to 'belong' to something. That in order to make the whole thing worthwhile we have to make the whole thing a 'Charity Event' (no offense Kara), or have sponsorship, or make sure that everyone in three countries knows you did 'X' deed for 'X' person so they may pat you on the back proper like.Simply put, I don't need a reason, or a name, or a sponsor to simply be a good person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Brickman Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Originally Posted By: Gabriel LawA fair question Mr. Brickman, very fair indeed.Q. How do I choose?A. Simple, I listen. They say that we should always trust our instincts and that they are rarely wrong. I know I cannot help everyone in the world, I'm far from that arrogant. However, what I can do is listen very carefully for that one soul from time to time that calls out to my heart. It can be anyone, an aging man, or a young woman. Anyone.Hey, that's really good advise. I do much the same except it's pretty much always young women. Originally Posted By: Gabriel LawQ. If your heart bleeds real easy, then why aren't you working for the Project?A. Why? Why is it that people believe that in order to do decent things you have to 'belong' to something. That in order to make the whole thing worthwhile we have to make the whole thing a 'Charity Event' (no offense Kara), or have sponsorship, or make sure that everyone in three countries knows you did 'X' deed for 'X' person so they may pat you on the back proper like.Simply put, I don't need a reason, or a name, or a sponsor to simply be a good person.Point... but there's something to be said for strength in numbers or at least organization in numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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