Agnelli and Cherry

[Agnelli Celeste]

One, they look alike in three ways.One they are both females, and two they both have high mega socials,and her eyes,but really only in person.

Cherry is taller,has a sharp chin,nose,and all her face is not as soft.She is four inches taller.

They have been seen in two places at the same time.

[Neil Preston]

Would their Quantum Signatures be the same, or similar?

[Blue Cherry]

Well, this where it chsnges from person to person, and large parts of the world wouldn't be able to tell any ways.

Here is the tricky part, Blue has a higher Quantum, and slightly more powers.4 instead of 3So, some people would say similar, some say the same, and few would say different.

Lastly, no nova that would talk, that I know of has seen both Agnelli and Blue.I find it highly unlikely that Alex Craft told Utopia.

[Hugin]

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Originally posted by Blue Cherry:
Well, this where it chsnges from person to person, and large parts of the world wouldn't be able to tell any ways.

Here is the tricky part, Blue has a higher Quantum, and slightly more powers.4 instead of 3So, some people would say similar, some say the same, and few would say different.

Lastly, no nova that would talk, that I know of has seen both Agnelli and Blue.I find it highly unlikely that Alex Craft told Utopia.

Yeah, but you're talking about a world of megaperceptive and megaintelligent novas. People who will notice every single thing about someone the second they look at them. People who can see that you walk like you're not used to being that tall or that you're body language is the same as somone elses. This is the world of novas, fooling people can be very difficult. Hell, one of the characters I've played could probably tell that they are one and the same. Gerald Haney, perception/megaperception 5/5 will all the enhancements and full dots in awareness. He's a Utopian and part-time bartender at the Amp Room. How do you fool someone like that unless you dominate him and force him not too notice (very easily done by the way). Just keep in mind, your characters are not the only ones with super powers.

[David 'Dr. Troll' Smith]

Taint, or rather Aberrations, also plays a big part in doing something like this.

Our group has a Cypher 5 shapechanging nova with multiple identities.

My character has Intelligence 5 & Perception 5 (but no megas).

After he picked up a couple of aberrations, I met one "guy", then I met another, and I saw both of them in action. Then I asked the ST, "Hey, his powers and Taint are the same, do I make the connection"?

Put another way:

Assume 8000 novas.

Assume 5% have any one power.

If you have three 5% powers, then an average of ONE nova has all three.

This in turn suggests that there is only one nova running around with Clone, Bodymorph, and Warp.

Obviously this 5% rule doesn't work for things like flight, forcefield and mega-stamina, but lots of powers are less common than 5%, and many novas have more than three powers.

Now factor in things like sex, age, attitude, taint, race, etc... and you quickly get "novas are unique".

Having said that, cypher does help, a lot. So would other things. The question is both "would they help enough" and "how interested are people in figuring this out".

[Understudy]

It depends on a lot of things. Many nova have more than three powers, some powers are so generic that they wouldn't help on their own. However if one if only used some of the powers and another only some of the powers, (this works best if the nova had has some chance to hide away and develop a new power).

The most people you probably get was that they was a good chance that they were the same person. You would probably need to look into it a bit more. However in the world of Nova it always possible for someone to find out (telepathy, percog, postcog, invisably tracking you .........) it all matter of effort.

What i would say that if some had reason to supect then they might attempt to spook you or perhaps investigate further. And if they didn't find aout anything to prove them wrong then well they might dicide rightly or wrongly that you are the same person.

Perception 5 Mega Perception 5 is all well as good if there are any clues to find, which with shape shift their simply may not be physical clues. (personalty clues I believe would go off wits)

But that is only my humble and badly spelt opinion

[Blue Cherry]

One,She doesn't have warp, two she doesn't have bodymorph, three she doesn't have clone.Agenelli had tellaport,that was rather uniqie.Blue doesn't have the same one. Weakness was bought off.

As for not being used to being so tall, she has a mega dex of 2, with perfect blance and physical prodigy.On top of this she had weeks to learn her new body before she was seen in public.So, I think the only way to notice her, is the node.

But if Codex really wants her character too know, that mean Blue will try to kill her.Blue knows the ins and outs of Utopian practicals,and most likely has enough resources to find Codex,and making her body wind up in a rather unfindable place.But I am wadgering if she know ebough to know the name she would know enough that Blue doesn't want her past found out,and has been forceful more than once to make that point clear.

[David 'Dr. Troll' Smith]

Are you continuing with both characters?

How flashy are/is both characters?

You're primarily a precog, right? That's a good power to try to hide.

How did you teleport work (meaning, what where/are the special effects)?

RE: Forcefield

I suspect that most forcefields ARE fairly different, at least from a special effects standpoint.

[Blue Cherry]

Her main power is seeing, really well and reacting really fast,Signy is the precog-baps-

Agnelli's teleport left an after image.So, when she teleported, you see see for a wile, until the image fade.The image would stay still,and lasted about a few secounds.Then fade away. Now she is just gone.

As for the truth they are one in the same person.Agnelli is living her life rather quitely, and has a rather good stand in for good photo ops.

[H. 'Machine' Mann]

Chirban tries to enter the Amp Room but Andy Vance spots him every time and tosses him out. Chiraban tries it all; hiding aberrations, switching between male/female forms, major physical alterations, distractions... Nothing works. How does Vance do it?

Megaperception, Megaintelligence, Mathematics, Deductive skills, Telepathy, Node, Quantum Attunement?

No.

Vance has "Style", and that means not only is he a spiffy dresser that turns eyes when he enters a room but he recognizes someone elses "style" as well. Simple but effective.

[David 'Dr. Troll' Smith]

Had "flaws" existed then, I think Chiraban would have had a -1 flaw: "Seedy Dresser".

[Blue Cherry]

Agnelli is fruendly caring, nice,and out going in person.Cherry is nothing like that.The only thing in style they have, is they ony wear eufiber.Agnelli in oerson is way more passive,Blue is way more comanding of an area. If that means anything.

[H. 'Machine' Mann]

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Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith:
Had "flaws" existed then, I think Chiraban would have had a -1 flaw: "Seedy Dresser".

Perhaps, but a good example of the obstacles someone would face going from known to supposedly unknown. To be successful at it a nova would have to be willing to become a new person not just pretend. As someone once said, to sell a lie you had to believe it.

That 'style' gem is one of the things I thought WW sometimes did right.

[The Paragon]

Still, alot of it has to do with the superior senses of novas.

For instance;

-her scent should be the same.

-Looking different is so common in aberrant, it wouldn't give you a definite "not the same person" reaction.

-Being in the same place at two different times, means nothing if you suspect the person of being a teleporter/warper. I'm not going into the body double.

-Looking at someone's q-signature, and then looking at the same one a year later would be more like looking at someone who had grown, not a totally different nova.

Utopia keeps files on novas. Since there are most likley no more than 20,000 or so, someone like Codex should easily make the comparison, post a note to her boss, Splash, and since Agnelli would be high on Utopia's radar, Splash would go have a specialist check it out.

And, not some bozo from Teen2M, either.

Said individual looks over a reprodcution of Agnelli's last known signature, looks over Blue Cherry's, and probably puts it in the 95% chance of being the same individual.

Then, they go talk to Alex Craft. Even if he doesn't fess up to help out,

They put a few people on it to keep an eye out for her.

Style, speach, and physical therapists look over the gathered info, and put it more into the 99.95% chance of being the same person.

Now, the big question is this: Why did Codex make this a public announcement? It would have been in Utopia's best interest to let the Agnelli fiasco die and to let Blue Cherry think she had evaded their seach for her.

I am willing to bet that everytime Blue Cherry thinks about popping in and finding Codex (and attempting to teach her a leason), her Intuition goes off. If she doesn't have it turned on, she should know she is walking into a trap.

Agnelli/Blue Cherry disappears off the world's radars (teleporting error perhaps?) and the matter ceases to be important.

If Agnelli leaves Utopia alone, they should leave her alone. If she acts the part of a vengeful psychotic child-star ....

[Blue Cherry]

Scent has a lot to do with physical things. She has a different skin pigment.

Blue is damned good at getting in and out of a place fast, she can break Utopian radio coms,and is strong enough to pull a slider off.She wouldn't do anything fancy like trying to take her alive.You have to ask yourself Is codex worth the resources it would take to stop Agnelli from killing her?If so, the for how long?Remember Agnelli could be just about any part of the world and then right next to Codex is a blink of the eye, and gone again.

But in the end, I think this steps over the bound of normal playing, just as me telling the world what Ashnods name is, or having YT slip a mick on Jager.

[Jager]

Blue can get to Codex, but she can't kill her. Not in this environment without Codex's player's permission.

Also, from a game mechanics point of view, they can trap you by letting you pop into an area, then not letting you pop out. You try, fail, and you die that fast.

Worse, you pop in, kill a clone of Codex (what? You didn't know she had clone?), and the real one shows up and wails on you.

Would being right next to Codex be the place you wanted to be? You are assuming that a)she is suprised, and she can't kill you in reaction to you popping in.

Would you allow that to happen?

YT gives Jager a micky? Sure. He drinks it and asks for a double next time. I get to decide wether or not it affects him.

Frankly, anything put into this forum another player might use. That is why I've put up rather limited information about a variety of charcters I've portrayed here.

It takes one person saying "I know this, because I want to know this" to darken my day. I would rather not go there.

[Matryoshka]

Blue can get to Codex, but she can't kill her. Not in this environment without Codex's player's permission.

She didn't ask my permission.And becuase of that I don't think she knew what the reaction would, and know fully what her character should know.

[Ghostwriter]

Look, I'm totally over you in a big way.

Codex is geared towards information. She's a Mega-Intelligent psychic with the ability to correlate and research data instantaneously, teleport through symbols and manipulate paper, parchment and leather (books) into different shapes or manipulate them. She is also a Q5 nova with Mental Blast (Aggravated) - which you can't soak - and has Mega-Stamina.

It's one thing to reveal information about another PC. It's another to drastically alter the environment of the game by killing them. Perhaps I should have asked permission, perhaps not. But you threatened a friend of Codex's and she responded as she should IC'ly.

Think long and hard before trying to kill her, and remember that Codex is now a recognised member of T2M who's in the spotlight (read Totem's 'Monday Night'). She has a whole teamful of novas as allies, Endeavour as a friend and is smart enough not to let you catch her alone.

I'm prepared to take IC consequences, but you had better be prepared to do the same. If you really want to do this, don't blame me for gathering what resources I've got - I'm certainly not giving you permission to just show and kill me.

[Sakurako Hino]

Signy, Here's what I'm seeing. You're getting very aggressive. To the point of disruption. You're threatening characters, brushing off debate, and resorting to bullying to get your way.

Now, I have been watching this conversation devolve into an arms race, and quite frankly, it makes the whole damn forum look bad.

Don't be surprised, when your tactics backfire. And I assure you, they will.

Start playing nice, and we'll all, eventually, forget this went on. Continue on this road, and eventually no one will want to interact with you.

Sometimes mistakes happen, you don't want to resort to Nukes to resolve them.

[Blue Cherry]

And here is what i see, Play nice and be ignored.Be mean, and make a point. If Codex some how found out, and told the world, Blue's only reaction would to be kill her.If she knew the names she would know the results of saying that publicly.

As such, to stay within my character, one of three things needs to haen.That post be removed, Blue, kill Codex or ... Oh forget about it.

[Ghostwriter]

Codex is also intelligent enough to prepare for that possibility, Cherry. She was at least a Mega-Intelligent 1, possibly edging into 2 or 3 since she's started developing her powers.

IC'ly, Codex will do her best to defend herself with what allies she has and her powers. And you can bet she will alert her superiors.

Just think this through, hmm?

[Jager]

Why would Blue Cherry want to kill Codex over this? That is kind of homocidal. Also, it is very, very arrogant. Assuming that one nova can kill another is a good way to die with a suprised expression on your face.

Things to think about:

1)How does she find Codex?

2)How does she know Codex's potential?

3)How does she plan to get away with it? In a Utopian facility, there are going to be a ton of security measures and surviellance. So, the best you can hope for is a world-wide manhunt, and the Teragan want to see you get wacked, too.

DeVries wouldn't touch you with a ten-foot pole. You would be banned from the Amp Room, and every non-insane nova would avoid you like the plague. You get to join Lash and Geryon as the most wanted villians on the planet, but they have a support network, while Blue Cherry should be alone. Anyone who was allied with her would now see her as the touch of death.

If Signy lifted a finger to help, that's it for her family, and she should realize it. Helping Blue Cherry is clearly Anti-Utopian. That makes her extended family targets for all kinds of pressure.

Destiny shouldn't want to be labelled a terrorist. That would cause her to be picked up for questioning from time to time.

What does that leave for Blue Cherry?

Is she clearly suicidal?

[Jack 'MultiGate' Anderson]

Why would Blue Cherry want to kill Codex over this?

Because she knows? Assuming she does, and you aren't just being paranoid and/or she isn't bluffing, lets just run with this for a moment. I.e. LETS STAY IN CHARACTER!

In character, if you suspect someone knows, how big of a deal is it?

If one person who doesn't care knows, you may be dragging a spot light onto this fact by trying to do anything about it.

If her knowing is a big deal, then you already have other things to worry about.

Did she tell anyone? Did she find out by someone telling her? Are you not as well hidden as you think? Shouldn't you be trying to find out these sorts of things?

[H. 'Machine' Mann]

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Originally posted by Blue Cherry:
And here is what I see, play nice and be ignored. Be mean and make a point.

Right or wrong about that, a matter I'm not in a position to judge, you are making these statements in an OOC forum. Do OOC forums have an effect on IC forum interaction?

This seems to work against your purpose not serve it. My $.02.