Ayre el KaBeer Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 The Glue Broke!!!! ::dontgetit Flipping through my Trinity core book (soft cover), on the page where the picture of the Cicada being repaired, the binding glue split! ::smiley4 The spine of the book seems fine at first sight, but the glue had lost most its grip to the cover and now the book is being held together by around 10 centimeters (roughly 4 inches) of glue... Does anyone here know how I can fix it ie. what kind of glue i should try? I don't want to buy the book again but I might have to despite the rediculous price of the Game shop I go to, so If I can fix it it'd be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I wouldn't use a traditional glue like Elmer's or the like. Head to a craft store and see if you can find a glue that's paper friendly, or barring that try a Wal-Mart. Fixing the bindings tends to be tricky, so I'd reccomend getting two heavier books (phone books or encyclopedias) and after setting the glue place the Trinity book beneath one and atop the other and letting it sit for while until the glue dries. I've done similar jobs in the past, most recently for my copy of Werewolf Revised when the binding was loose. -Def. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayre el KaBeer Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Damn that Werewolf fall appart on you too? My mate bought it and 3 weeks later it decided it didn't want to stay intact.Anyway thanks Defender I didn't think to look in a crafts store, since i couldn't find any glue that looked like it was going to work so I was considering using some sillicon sealant despite the stupididty behind it. Now to find a crafts store in my area... where's that cursed Yellow pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistaire Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Damn that Werewolf fall appart on you too? My mate bought it and 3 weeks later it decided it didn't want to stay intact.Your book must have been tainted by the Wyrm. I'd throw it out, or get a Theurge to purify it or something.::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 My book was cursed by the Urge Wyrm of Lousy Binding. Fortunately a little craft glue and it was right as rain (well, apart from the usual WW snap-crackle-pop every time I open it, but hey, you can't have it all). ::tongue -Def. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 heh, i bought the teragen book several years back, the second i stepped out of the store, three pages fell out and most of the glue cracked. it had been fine up until i bought it (so what if i'd read it for almost an hour before i remembered i was in a store ::halo ) in general though, whitewolf's bindings are crap and tend to fall apart very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operations Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Dream Pod 9 uses a real good printer. I'm not sure who, but if it was not in Canada, I'd say White Wolf should use them.Or is WW's printer already in Canada?*shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayre el KaBeer Posted March 24, 2003 Author Share Posted March 24, 2003 Time for a bit of conspiracy theory: ::ninja ::ninja ::ninja Maybe they want the books to fall apart! Sort of like the motor industry, so you have to buy more books ::crazy This theory might have worked if white wolf had a repair kit and spare pages for sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorDee Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Maybe they want the books to fall apart! Sort of like the motor industry, so you have to buy more books Would fit with some of the bad press WW had in the past, eh? ::wink But more likely it's because the books were stored at very low temperature sometimes before they hit the shelves.Cold kills most binding glue.Sending the book by air-mail is usually enough--the non-pressurized cargo hold gets below zero really fast.As for fixing the broken glue, you need arabic-rubber glue--bookbinder stuff, whatever the name in your language. The glue must not get rigid after drying, or it will crack more.Once you have the rubber, the best way to go is actually break the book completely open, and go for a whole repair, applying the glue with a brush while the pages are under a moderate weight.Dripping some glue where the pages are coming away is not likely to achieve any good result.As an alternative, you might try and check out the yellow pages for a good craftsman and shell some dough to have the books repaired by a pro.I've found it's normally worth the money, especially witholder, most cherished tomes.Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloe Posted April 3, 2003 Share Posted April 3, 2003 ...my trinity book is the only WW book still intact, the binding department must be running a right cowboy outfit...Chloe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 okay I known its been four months since the last reply but I hope you guys see this I used to repair books and this glue is the best.http://www.gaylordmart.com/adblock.asp?abi...98CBAC58B9F8CDCDatsun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayre el KaBeer Posted August 11, 2003 Author Share Posted August 11, 2003 Cursed emperial system! I only know that an ounce is aproximately 28grams (millilitres), who came up with Quart and Gallon anyway!?!?! *Glares at CHILL acusingly* Why the hell are the yanks using these measurements, I thought they don't do anything British? ::blink . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILL Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Why the hell are the yanks using these measurements, I thought they don't do anything British? ::blink . Closet Brits ::wink *nods emphatically* ::biggrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Well, gosh I could never learn them darn new-fangled measuring devices ::blink so I just used, this printable list from berkley: http://chemistry.berkeley.edu/links/weight...uivalences.htmlor this site with a set of calculators for specific conversions:http://personal.zcloud.net/easysurf/cnver2.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 My book was cursed by the Urge Wyrm of Lousy Binding. I hear ya there! Two months after I bought the RPG Bible (aberrant) it fell apart. ::smiley4 I lost all of the background stuff and tried to glue the rest and it Farged up on me. Now I have 2inch thick sticky tape holding everything together. ::angry I wrote White Wolf before I did anything asking if they could replace it, but they told me no. that they have nothing to do with that. History of W.W. books that fell apart:W.W. Wild WestW.W. Playersguide (1st edish)Vampire & Vampire PG 2nd edish.Aberrant. As you might think, I am not a happy camper when it comes with W.W. products. One would think that I treat my books like shi...crap. But the amount I pay here in Canada, I would rather fall of the table myself then treat my books badly.Sob...Whine...BAWWWWWLLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifier Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 I've never seen a Teragen book that didn't break, either. Still worth having, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat82 Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Strangely enough, only my trinity soft cover have broken (ok, ok, a page fell out from Trinity players guide... ::angry ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsidian Shade Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 my teragen book is healthy ::biggrin but not very old, two or three month i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifier Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 You need to read it more, then. ::tongue It'll break, I promise. ::lookaround Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Mine broke. Mine broke after like three hours of reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 I've never seen a Teragen book that didn't break, either. Still worth having, though. Opps I thought I missed one. Yup that one too is in plastic sleeves.Reality.sys corrupted, reboot Universe [Y/N/Q]? <--I love that tag line!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 heh, my fiance's broke before he even got out of the store... he was three feet from the door when about 20 pages fell out. the owner of the store felt horrible, but it's a white wolf thing so she couldn't do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeEyes Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 he was three feet from the door when about 20 pages fell out.::laugh ROFLBoy, do I know that... I have plenty of books do that to me before. Why does this happen? I mean, I have books that date back before WW1 (Not sure how old it is yet. Doesn't have a publishing date y'see.) with pages as thin as gold leaf (I ain't kidding... I have to be extra careful when turning the pages), and it's still in one peace... what's happened to book binding? It used to be an artform, now they use prittstick and bluetack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayre el KaBeer Posted August 14, 2003 Author Share Posted August 14, 2003 now they use prittstick and bluetack... I wish they were using bluetack, life would be a hell of a lot simpler that way ::laugh , it's more likely they're using dried up washing detergent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeEyes Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 dried up washing detergent? hmmm... y'know that might just work... but I believe they are using some subtance that dissolves after two days (to allow people to bu them first) in a conspiracy to get the book repairers more business...But before I fall into paranoid conspiracy talk, I need to feed my goldfish.......TO THE CAT FOR BLABBING TO THE GOVERNMENT!Ahem... yes. But honestly, I think books have been printed on those cheap refill pads that you can tear leafs off easily... Whatever happened? books used to be strong and handworthy, but now they barely stay apart in the shopping bag on the way home! I think my aberrant players guide is falling apart.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 But before I fall into paranoid conspiracy talk, I need to feed my goldfish.......TO THE CAT FOR BLABBING TO THE GOVERNMENT!Another wet-behind-the-ears informant sleeps with the fishes.. ::laugh ::squidEddies in the wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 ::smiley5 Don't forget the Teragen book, now in a lovely binder full of plastic sleeves, Quasar.I'm not sure why WW books fall apart so easily. After all, I've got an assortment of books from different companies, Ars MAgica (2nd) from wizards of the Coast, PAlladium Heroes, villians and Aliens books, as well as Nightspawn(the REAL title dammit! NOT Nightbane!) and none of them have fallen apart. Except for a crease or two on the corners, they are all perfectly fine.Sigh.Aberrant Forever! (and with some enhancements, it's possible) ::thumbsup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsidian Shade Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 bad news for me... my book's glue is also gone ::sad rest in peace my friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullifier Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Don't you mean, rest in pieces? ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 No, it's all in pieces. ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat82 Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 The real tragic thing is that here in sweden, we got a couple of companys that is actualy worse at binding books.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 The real tragic thing is that here in sweden, we got a couple of companys that is actualy worse at binding books....WOW I didn't think it was possible to be worse than W.W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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