7hertz Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 I dont know if any one has already done this but I've been playing around with the idea of using the Aberrant system for a marvel universe based campaign.The cool thing is that its fairly easy to transfer marvel to aberrant.Taint is used during character generation usually only (especially with villains, mutants)- read Hulk, X-Men, The Lizard, The Leader etc.The power system and Mega Attributes are perfectly suited to this world, and as far as I've playtested, feels right.To top it all, this fits in perfectly with the Alex Ross "Marvels" vision of the marvel universe.And hey, what about an Aberrant / Marvel crossover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Aberrant does remind me a lot of the X-Men, though novas are more worshipped than hated..What would Wolverine be like? Mega-Strength (Crush), Mega-Stamina (Regeneration), Mega-Perception (Bloodhound), Claws of a high level.. Maybe a single Mega-Dexterity dot just for the heck of it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dev Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Aberrant would be a good fit. The only problem is Rogue & the other "leechers". I haven't found any system (except for maybe HERO) that can it well.The problem in Aberrant is that Rogues- style leechers in Aberrant would have to be able to drain all the nova powers, mega-attributes, & health levels at once.At the mininum you we have to create a level 4+ version of quantum vampire ( I don't have my copy of the main book in front of me, but I think that is the quantum power that allows the stealing of powers). Maybe make it run it allong the lines of Quantum Forgery, except the user steals the quantum signature of another. The range would be touch. The duration would have to be based on how long the user touched the victim. Rogue actually absorbed Ms Marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Problem is, with the exception of Wolverine (who's got the whole invincible Zen warrior deal going) and some of the telepaths (who, due to uncreativity on the part of the series' writers, are basically gods), Rogue is much more powerful than the other X-People. And unlike Wolverine, she only has the one ability (well two, if you count flight, which I do) at an incredible level of both strength and versatility that Aberrant doesn't even approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Who's Ms. Marvel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Green Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 Rogue's only mutant ability is the leach. Flight, super-str, INV, etc were all stolen from Ms. Marvel (along with her personality).Ms. Marvel was an Avenger who actually had her own comic book for a while. The one power we haven't seen Rogue use with any regularity is MM's precog-reflexes.Here is an off hand draft.Rogues Touch: All powers linked, always on, range is touch if the power has a range, requires skin contact, etc Q-Imprint does most of the job (with 5 dots, she gets 5 powers/skills). Telepathy (gets memories and personality, fades) Stun (balance the weaknesses with strengths (extra dice))Taint: 5 or 6 (depending on if you give her multiple personalities)Aberations: Perm Power: The Touch (normally this is a high level taint, but it is controllable enough and useful enough that I'll call it 'minor'). Anima Banner: Random physical/mental traits taken from 'The Touch' Multiple Personalities (Her own & Ms. Marvel)Other powers: Flight, M-Str/Stam/Dex, Psi-Shield, INV (maybe just armor).See? She is very buildable, maybe even with 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayre el KaBeer Posted March 1, 2003 Share Posted March 1, 2003 The origional owner of rogues super man style powers. Something she did while working for Mystique arcordidng to the cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 acording to the cartoon, rouge was working for mystique in some sort of shady operation. ms. marvel was trying to stop them, mystique ordered rouge to touch ms. marvel and basically, knock her out. it was tough going and rouge was forced to hold on too long. ms. marvel was 100% absorbed into rouge. her body became a vegtable while she lived on as more or less a shadow in rouge's mind. that's where rouge got the powers of flight and super strength, and a complimentary guilt complex for having effectively killed another person. according to the show, she still visits "jane doe" in the hospital and talks to herself to try to alleviate the guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Oh, that explains it.. I figured the flight was kind of an additional power, and the strength that she stole returned to the people she stole it from, but never left her.That old TV show was awesome ::rolleyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dev Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Alex,The only problem is that Rogue actually takes the powers/skills. Your package doesn't reflect the loss of the victims abilities. Also, it doesn't cover her ability to drain health levels either, it just a stun attack. She actually absorbed Ms. Marvel.I think it would be easier to make up a level 4 "Vampiric Authority" Power. Hmmm maybe I will after I get done with my Star wars conversion for Adventure! & my far future campaign setting ::tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Green Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 The only problem is that Rogue actually takes the powers/skills. Your package doesn't reflect the loss of the victims abilities. Also, it doesn't cover her ability to drain health levels either, it just a stun attack. She actually absorbed Ms. Marvel. The Stun/Telepathy attack does reflect the victums loss. If they are KO'ed, then who is to say whether they still have their abilities (i.e. I would write that off as a special effect). If that isn't enough, then put it down to telepathy.Ms. Marvel's absorption was a one shot done off camera and should be written into her background.The problem with using Q-Vamp(life) is that Rogue doesn't seem to gain life from her victums, just power & skills. Her drain doesn't heal her injuries for example, nor does it inflict injuries on her victums. (Even Ms. Marvel didn't die).Yes, the description of Q-Vamp matches the description of what Rouge does. But the actual game effects of what she does doesn't match the actual game effects of Q-Vamp. Lots of characters have flight defined as TK or Gravity control. But they don't actually have the game equiv of TK or Gravity control, they just have flight. Rogue is just another example of the definition/description not matching the in game effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dormammu Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 If you want to see some posts on converted Marvel-heroes, just visit: white-wolf.com/ . Barghest does an excellent job on converting. You might just have to search for some of his doings though. ::thumbsup ::thumbsup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Actually, since Rogue was born in the comic and not in the TV show, her cannon history should be taken from there and not from the cartoon, which was greatly diminished and simplified for the animated series.Rogue was taken in by Mystique as a teenager when she ran away from home (which she did because she kissed her first boyfriend and put him in a coma). Mystique had a plan to attack the X-Men and the first part of the plan was for rogue to DELIBERATELY steal Ms. Marvels powers to use against the X-Men. The fact that she kept the powers and memories PERMANENTLY was a complete surprise to everyone and was not due to her maintaining contact for too long, but was speculated to be a result of the half alien hybrid genetics which gave Ms. Marvel her powers.Rogue doesn’t actually still visit Carol Danvers (Ms. Marvel’s real name) in the hospital anymore because she isn’t there. She was kidnapped by another alien race and experimented on and as a result, she now has more power than she ever did as Ms. Marvel. As Binary, she now possesses the energy potential of a star. The first time she encountered Rogue in her Binary persona was a priceless scene. She looked completely different so Rogue didn’t recognize her and was taken by surprise when Binary sent her into orbit (literally) with one punch. Rogues reaction, quickly changing from righteous indignation at the “unprovoked” attack to shamefaced subdual when Binary revealed herself to be Carol Danvers, was perfect.Sorry to drone on but I’m a die hard fan of the printed media over the animated series.I had planned to introduce myself a bit later after a little more lurking to get the feel of the group but I never could stop myself from putting my two cents in where my favorite mutant peeps are involved. I'll post a bit of introduction later but for now, Hey all. Glad to meet you.Druid - Man without a signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfPotts Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Hey - didn't Binary loose most of her power & become 'Warbird' (with the old Ms Marvel costume), develop a drinking problem, join the Avengers, & date the Vision (not necessarily in that order)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Green Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 The fact that she kept the powers and memories PERMANENTLY was a complete surprise to everyone and was not due to her maintaining contact for too long, but was speculated to be a result of the half alien hybrid genetics which gave Ms. Marvel her powers. That may be the offical description of what happened but it sounds really self serving from Mystique's point of view (i.e. the sort of thing you tell Rogue afterwards). It also doesn't explain how they even managed to find Carol since she was only just back from being kidnaped into another dimention or time or something. The obvious answer: Destiny (a powerful pre-cog) was involved. IMHO: Destiny found Carol and knew full well what would happen when Rogue attacked.And thus Rogue becomes much, much more useful to Mystique. Rogue before Carol had a glass jaw and a rangeless power so nasty that she was sure to be the first target in a fight. It is really easy to see Mystique being that ruthless and clever. And hey there yourself. Good to meet you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsidian Shade Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 i think ProfPotts is right. Binary lost her powers and changed to warbird (in the iron man comic?). she left the star(spell?)jammer crew und joined the avengers.what about magneto and his ability to controll rogue's powers? how does this works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Apparently the key is keeping Rogue from any direct physical contact...If it works like it is shown to in X-Men Unlimted #2 (not sure about title...it's from the Age of Apocalypse where they introduce its version of Wolverine), then Magneto projects a thin magnetic sheath over his body to insulate himself from Rogue's touch, allowing her a sort-of-intimacy...I'm assuming, however, that it doesn't work completely as a contraceptive ::crazy ...FR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprocket Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 There's one other thing to consider about Rogue's problems with intimacy, Finbar. The version of Rogue from the "Age of Apocalypse" had permanently stolen/drained the powers of Lorna Dane/Polaris instead of Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel. As the AOA Rogue gained proficiency with her own magnetic powers, she and Magneto both learned how to generate those magnetic sheathes you mentioned. So that solution might not work for the Rogue from the "Mainline" Marvel Universe. Oh well... ::smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 AOA Mags showed Rogue how he did the field-thing just after the Wolverine encounter, without bothering to have her do the same...Although I'm sure she had Dane's powers by then, I don't think it mattered...FR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasar Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 That's one of the first thing I did with my wife was to play Aberrant in the Marvel Universe. It was ussually an X-Men setup but it was super easy!I didn't try to get exact with the powers, I just made the NPC's up the way I thought they should be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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