Ian 'Very Bad' Blakely Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Come one, come all!! Step right up and get your murder on!!Okay. Here's the deal. Two weeks. Post here (no PMs, let's all share people).Subject?How your character kills Very Bad.The prize? You get to post that story (with final approval by me)and I stop posting the bad boy with the very bad name.Any questions?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Now, right off the bat, check out Very Bad's charcter sheet. Physically he is nearly untouchable, even to bad boys like ronin. So you gotta be clever, you gotta be original. I do have some attachement to him so no making him look like a super punk. Clear?Now let the carnage begin!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Hmmmmm ... interesting ... a good motivation would be nice to see as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian 'Very Bad' Blakely Posted October 17, 2004 Author Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hey! Who's contest is this? I figure you'd only come up with a good killer scene if you had a reason. Maybe I shouldn't assume.What Preston says goes, gotta have some sort of a reason, even if it's just Very Bad is about to hurt one of your loved ones while on a mission (just remember, he's not really an assassin type.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Well, we already saw the Singularity vs. Very Bad fight, no need to rehash that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigmata Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Stiggie would be a puddle of red goo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I dunno. Her powers are pretty different aren't they? Wouldn't they bypass a lot of his defenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Doctor Troll finds himself on the field (which wasn't supposed to be a combat field) with VB on the other side. Doc grabs VB, drops 20 juice on the "Thrower" enhancement and VB finds himself on a one way trip out of the solar system.Does VB have adaptability? Does it matter? In one action VB moves something like 1 Million Kilometers. Even with backing 5 with DVNTS there is no way to find and retreive him by the time anyone finds out about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Bailey Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I probably wouldn't do it, but here's an idea someone else could take up:A sphinx could manipulate Very Bad into an impossible situation, something he couldn't survive. A simple example would be manipulating him into simultaneously ticking off: Totentanz, Mal, Pax, Ashnod, Apep, and just about any other disgusto-tron potential killbot characters. A man with that kind of mark on his head wouldn't be long for this world. And I'm sure a sphinx could come up with plenty of different, effective ways to remove Very Bad permanently.(bet you didn't expect the law-dude to use the words "disgusto-tron" and "killbot," did ya? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Stewart: TAG Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Paid to support a coup in the country of Yemen, Very Bad Blakley clashes with the local military on his way to the capital city. Sicken by the thought of the civilian populace caught in the middle of the looming war, Tag ignores orders from the Utopian Diplomat he's there to assist and moves to intercept Blakely. Confronted first hand with the death and destruction Blakely's pursuit of "glory" is costing, Liam acts to convert VB to an info-signal traversing the world via Opnet billions of times per second.A file with no destination named "glory.opx". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: Confronted first hand with the death and destruction Blakely's pursuit of "glory" is costing, Liam acts to convert VB to an info-signal traversing the world via Opnet billions of times per second.A file with no destination named "glory.opx". ShapeChange(Other)? Attunement allows you to charge an object so that it survives the rigors of your powers, it isn't an attack power. It is an interesting idea, but I am curious about how it would be done, mechanically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Probably the same way as Transmit, Jager. However, the trick here is Attunement only goes up to 100 kg, which is about 220 lbs. Very Bad weighs over 300 lbs.And obviously there'd be a resisted roll of some sort... But that doesn't really matter since he is getting rid of the character after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentle Giant Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 The Brothers Gemeos have been working for Utopia queitly, in various small African villages, for several months now, doing construction work.VB has been hired by a local warlord to protect him from a shapeshifting nova with a vendetta. The nova's village was devastated by the warlord, causing the shapeshifter to erupt. Seeing the difficulty of his task as a defender against a nearly invisible foe, and finding a chance for pro-active defense, VB goes to the shapeshifter's village, seeking to take the brunt of the shapeshifter's anger on himself.The village is being rebuilt by a Utopia/UN aid team, and Gentle Giant is the only nova on the scene. VB makes clear his intent to destroy the village, and Gentle Giant faces him down, in an inverted David and Goliath showdown.The resulting battle is decidedly one-sided, with VB completely outmatching the well meaning pacifist. Just as he is about to strike a deathblow, GG's brother erupts with powers of quantum meddling. Specifically, VB's powers are enhanced and extended far beyond what he can normally do, causing him to burn out in a literal 'Blaze of Glory'. (This is not an ability, just an effect of Ramone's eruption.)VB's node and brain are burnt out in a wash of quantum fires, leaving a statuesque and completely indestructible body behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Only three?What do I have to do? Start insulting people's mothers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Not many of us feel up to beating VB even with lots of luck on our side. And the Q6+ bunch really shouldn't engage in combat, it sets a bad president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Yeah, like I have a prayer...though I could maybe kick him in the shin and run...doubt that would do much more then piss him off though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Jordan might be able to take him out through any number of means, although I can't really think of a good reason for him to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Zima could probably do it, but I think it'd break the 'making it look good' rule. Enough prying via Telepathic Channeling (from, say, the next country) and he'd be able to get past VB's resistance with Mental Blasts, possession, whatever. But, really, that'd just be cheap.Could spice it up by claiming that Zima still has a comatose Diecast stowed away somewhere from Dominion. Then, he could possess Diecast and duke it out ... but frankly, that'd be pretty pointless, with the Diecast getting killed and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 If VB even has two dots of Psi-Shield then it would be extremely hard to hurt him with Mental Blast (needing 9+ succ), and since he also has regen it might be pointless........if that were the only thing VB had to worry about. If you pick your time, like if he is in combat with someone else, then a mental attack (especially Mental Illusion) could be decisive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Or Parasitic Possession. And I'd come out on the side of Mental Blast not being Regeneratable (since it isn't physical), but I suppose that's a point of contention. Zima has also been known to 'kill' by stripping away memories /w/ Telepathy, but the successes that would require would probably be prohibitive, considering VB's mental resistance.He has 7 Will and 1 Psychic Shield. Average 4.8 successes, I think. That's definitely a barrier, but wouldn't stand up to a persistent attack.Mm. And come to think of it, Zima's Mental Blast is Armor Piercing. I generally allow that to cut down resistance dice as well as the 'soak' granted by Psychic Shield, but it helps either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 RE: Parasitic Possession.Not something you want to do on someone about to die.Re: Mental Blast not being Regeneratable (since it isn't physical)That's a real reach considering Mental Blast does normal Bashing damage or even lethal damage. There is nothing in regeneration that says it only heals "physical" damage. However, we might assume this is happening when his pool is mostly out.VB's mental resistance: 7 Will and 1 Psychic Shield. Average 4.8 successesYes, that's 4.8 against most mental powers and +2 soak against Mental Blast.How many succ does Zima average?Zima's Mental Blast is Armor Piercing. I generally allow that to cut down resistance dice as well as the 'soak' granted by Psychic Shield, but it helps either way. Cannon-wise Armor Piercing only reduces soak (not "defenses"), and only for attacks with extra "to hit" succ. In theory that would do nothing for a resisted attack, but even assuming this is possible this may not work well against regeneration. You are spending 3 q on your attack, whether that is cost effective depends on the number of succ you average.Another possibility is power-maxxing for Aggravated. That would ignore his soak (although not his 4.8 succ) unless he has Hardbody (which he might). The damage would still regen, but at a x3 cost, and you would get that extra [Q] in succ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 My only suggestion at this point is that if you really want to make an issue talk to the Chicago Defense people. Though I have no idea how anything short of a tac nuke could do any damage. Both Broad Categories, 9 levels of superheavy/impenetrable armor?I was going to say it might be cool if there was a job relating to Chicago and the newbie team had to get it's feet VERY wet. Of course between the 8 or so of us I don't think there's anyone doing the 50 levels of damage necessary to get through all that armor. Still, I know a few ways it could be worked out on the Chicago front. But it's more drama than number crunching. Still, the Chicago bit would be a cool plot send off rather than a pointless Death-end.Actually whatever "wins" I think it should somehow be affecting the general "plots" going on around here. That would be quite smooth.So are you quitting as a player or just as a player of Very Bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Where *is* VB character sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 It's linked in his profile. So very very Scary. In a defensive/Mega-strength kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby1024 Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Very important question - must it be actual physical death, or does braindeath/utter social devastation count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Brain death is fine. Social devestation no count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 "Not something you want to do on someone about to die."True, but possessed suicide isn't really Zima's style, anyway. I'd be more for taking over VB and going on a series of hits against key targets owned by the Russian Branch of the Directive, the Heaven Thunder Triad, and maybe the Nakato Gumi for good measure. He could then spend however long it would take to erase all traces of his involvement from VB's memories and skedadle through Telepathic Channeling/Parasitic Possession. VB's nasty, but I doubt he'd last too long after that.Still, moot point because that's all random speculation. Wouldn't really be a good way to give VB his send off. I actually think Horrorshow's suggestion would be pretty damn cool - concoct a way for VB to be causing some damage somewhere in the Midwest and kick off the new team with that story. It would be a much sweeter beginning for the team than anything we had planned (to the best of my knowledge), and it would give VB's death a little more meaning from our (real world) standpoint than a simple kill. Might also be able to get some crunchy stuff after the fact involving how the first real mission for the team resulted in killing someone - not such a familiar thing for most of them.'Course, I have no idea how the team could do the deed. There's a couple of pros in there, but still - not an easy thing. However, it could be argued that that is a pretty archetypal situation - the heroes come up against some enemy that none of them could defeat alone, but together they prevail, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 His soak is 58/48, or 62/52 with Superheavy.Psychic Shield is 1.Willpower is 7.Q is 4. Node is 0.He has 11 health levels.Observations:1) Just cutting through Puny Human takes at least M-Str 4. Even Troll's M-Str 6 (Extreme Density) doesn't go over his soak.2) It wouldn't be all that hard for him to be q-vamp'ed, disrupted, etc.... but it's tough to see what you could disrupt to make much of a difference. Q-Vampire(Strength) and Q-Vampire(Stamina) would do the job quite nicely though.3) If you want to go the Mind Blast + Aggravated route, you need to disrupt his Psi-Shield since he has Hardbody. Even with that regeneration and his extra health levels will likely prevent death. 4) Poison + Aggravated won't work because of Hardbody + Adaptability + Regeneration.Conclusion: Ways to take him out.1) "Ping" damage until he runs out of juice. That implies a horde of M-Str 4+ bricks.2) Eclipsol.3) Quantum Adjusting powers in combination with something else.4) Doc's throw him off the Earth idea wouldn't kill him but should work.5) Q6+ and "Mastery".6) Mental Powers might shake him up but won't put him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I didn't see a point in idle speculation on how Alchemist would approach this, but if we're going to talk about a team takedown by the Chicago Novas, then here's an idea:If he attacked Chicago (or just the team), I can see an effective Alchemist/Blackstar doubleteam that might work. Alchemist could pretty effectively restrain him for the round or so it would take Blackstar to teleport/gate him out into orbit.Take a firehydrant, and cause it to blow it's top and soak VB. Annoying, but pointless, right? Well, Alchemist gathers the water around VB, then transmutes it into titanium. It's a combined action, but he's got the dicepool for it. It would only take VB a round or two to break free, but by that point, Blackstar or Bandwidth can get rid of him.This isn't really lethal. Just a riff on Troll's thrower idea.Aside from (probably) Jager, nobody in Chicago is likely to be able to kill VB. Even as a team. We're also very unlikely to kill him, even if we could. Goes against the 'superhero' motif we're trying to set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnod Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Assuming that you win the resisted Warp roll. Even then, you haven't killed him, only moved him somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Exactly. We're a lot less likely to kill him than we are to just stop him, even if we could overwhelm him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Ashnod: Assuming that you win the resisted Warp roll. Even then, you haven't killed him, only moved him somewhere else. If it is a resisted roll, then it isn't a long distance Warp.Basically for a long distance Warp you have to make the gate and then force him through it. A resisted roll means you are making the gate on top of him (or under him or whatever) and that by definition uses the 100m per succ rules.With Mega-Strength 5 Titanium will hold him at most one action. Since he has quick that's half a round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stigmata Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan: I dunno. Her powers are pretty different aren't they? Wouldn't they bypass a lot of his defenses? not really, most everything is blood related and by the time she was able to come up with anything creative, he'd squish her. He is an elite after all and she's just an artist. Besides any reason I can think of why they would be in the fighting situation anyways is just silly and hopefully wouldn't end in death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Access Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Alchemist: It would only take VB a round or two to break free, but by that point, Blackstar or Bandwidth can get rid of him.I could very well get him out of there if I could find a OpNet carrier signal, they are pretty much everywhere, but whever he ends up with VB, Bandwidth would most likely be screwed. He has to conjure up his Laptop, then take the time to travel through it, that's plenty of time for VB to smash me quite proficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackStar Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 BlackStar could kill VB, but he is not a killer. He would try to subdue him.And BDW BlackStar is not a warper he is a teleporter with attunement. Looking to the weight of VB, I doubt he could transport him to any place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Well, when I suggested the Chicago people take on VB I didn't say some of us wouldn't end up in traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Does putting him outside the solar system count as killing with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian 'Very Bad' Blakely Posted October 30, 2004 Author Share Posted October 30, 2004 Damn Troll, I missed your last post, but yes, tossing is ass off planet counted. That's why I mentioned three way up there.Well, two weeks is up and the winnah is.....GENTLE GIANT!!!!It's a loverly idea, takes out VB well within the rules, doesn't make the #8 Elite look like Polly Pissypants and better yet hopefully introduces a new character to the site, which I find kewl.Write it up Giant m'man and give me a PM when you're ready. I will keep intermintently posting as VB until then.Thank's y'all. You're beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentle Giant Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 VB, I've PM'd you a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Just read it, Well Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 I'm disappointed I didn't make it in on time, but that was very well done. I don't think it could have gone much better. Well done, GG and Ian. Ian will be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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