Jackpoint: Shadow Chatroom [OOC Chat]

[Krul]

Here's your OOC chatroom folks, for this game.

[Krul]

Been an Update to the House rules regarding Adept powers, some changes that had been applied in the 20th Anniversary 4E Book, very relevant to all you lovely Adepts out there.

[Marko Cain]

I didn't know that was released yet... excellent, .5 more Magic to spend.

[Shivlal]

1 full point more to spend.

YAY!

[Rorx]

Hmm, after doing my Gear I found I had 2KP left - just enough for a speciality

[Marko Cain]

Shivlal...

Boost Agility(2) = 1.5 (.75 x2)

Combat sense(2) = 1 (.5 x2)

Improved Reflexes(3) = 4

Improved Sense(Flare comp, Sound dampening) = .5 (.25 x2)

That's 7 points of magic.

[Delilah Synn]

Boost Agility costs .25 per rank, not .75 (that is Improved Agility).

[Marko Cain]

Damn, I do that at the table too. I read Boost (Att) as Improved (Att). My bad.

Carry on.

[SalmonMax]

Hee hee...

Damn, it takes forever to trick out an assload of drones and one armored vehicle in Shadowrun...but the results can't be argued with.

Almost done here.

[Marko Cain]

Shouldn't be that hard to trick out an assload of drones... I mean seriously... how much can one ass hold?

Although your deployment method certainly is unique, I applaud the originality.

[SalmonMax]

You'd be surprised. The ass is a supple, stretchable thing.

...or so I've been told.

[Krul]

Ok, now that most folks have characters in the works, or completed, I want everyone to star considering this.

Relationship to one another, I'll allow anyone to have any relationship with any other character that makes sense, and I'd like each of you to consider two other characters to have some sort of relationship with.

Direct relationship's are easy, but don't forget indirect ones, like a cousin of your great uncles ex-wife.

Basically, I'm looking for reasons and ways to hock you all up together, and the easier you make it for me, the better

[Marko Cain]

I don't know anything about the other characters aside from the four armed guy.

No one's said anything about who they're making aside from what they are in terms of their niche. I don't know gender, names, hang outs... nothing.

Aside from Marko's past, what people *need* to know is there. If someone wants to discuss relationships with him, I'm all for hearing some sales pitches.

[Krul]

No need to rush things, after all, everyone is still in character creation process, I just want folks to start thinking about it.

After all, Chunin and Varja could have a very good working relationship, having done a few runs together, and guarded one each others back in a difficult situation, that's an acceptable connection.

As to the others, I've names for everyone but Joani's character.

[Marko Cain]

So, people, what do we have here?

Who are the rest of ya and how can we work out this whole 'who knows who' thing?

[Joani]

Just a short update - I'm still around and working on my sheet. I try to have it done by wednesday.

[SalmonMax]

Dale Cazantino used to be a vunderkind designer/engineer for military and paramilitary vehicles, working for one of the megacorps (still deciding which one). Rumor has it that not too long ago he had a creative difference with their intellectual property rules, grabbed as many of his designs as he could, then vanished underground. Since then he's nosed around Anarchist Black Cross, and been making street level connections. He drives a black SUV with spoofed plates and transponder.

Connections with ABC, fixers and fences (as he's looking to expand his connections), or possibly those with past ties to megacorps (or current ties, though that might be bad for party integrity ) might know Dale, or know enough of him.

[Rorx]

Uriel - real name unknown - Known to wear disguise during runs and presumably other meetings.

A competent Combat mage who has several other strings to his bow, also known to be reasonable sniper/marksman when the time requires it. Off run he can be contacted for work as a Talismonger or as an Instructor in a variety of skills.

contacts are with a street sam, a hacker and fence.

could have done runs with anyone really, certainly would happily work with any combinations of the Adepts.

[Delilah Synn]

Okay, I posted Deirdre's Profile, just haven't gotten around to adding the Matrix comments yet.

She was exiled from Tir Na Nog when she Surged into Changeling during a mystical ceremony of the Path of the Wheel. As she is a member of one of the 22 Danaan Families of Tir Na Nog (nobles), this was an embarrassment, and some political wrangling saw her unofficially exiled from her home.

This really hurt her, since as a Dryad (the only one native to Ulster, no less), she had a deep tie to the land. At loose ends, she ended up in Seattle at the invitation of a distant cousin (so far, the cousin is a Contact, but I could change it to one of the PCs, if someone is amendable, doesn't even have to be an elf).

She has only been in Seattle for 2 or 3 months, and is still new to the whole Shadowrunning scene. She tried a 'real' job, but for various reasons, it didn't work out. So she hired out mostly for escort/bodyguarding duty or as hired muscle.

She is an amazing martial artist, and is still willing to learn any new tricks, and if someone mentioned it to her, she be willing to teach as well, though she probably has little patience (or skill) for instruction.

She's taken a few jobs as a bodyguard or hired muscle, maybe one of the other characters hired her or conversely, she was hired by someone they had to deal with (She'd make lovely arm candy for a Mr. Johnson, and would still be effective hired muscle).

[Krul]

Hmm, interesting, the 3 adepts are the first characters posted.

[Marko Cain]

Originally Posted By: Deirdre McGuinness

She has only been in Seattle for 2 or 3 months, and is still new to the whole Shadowrunning scene.

She's racked up 1,000 karma and has a street cred of 10... I doubt any of the PCs are 'new to the Shadowrunning scene'.

Nice pic of Veldt btw...

[Delilah Synn]

I know Veldt is the name of the Pic, but I have no clue who she is.

On another note, I didn't say she was unskilled, just hadn't run shadows. She knows how to fight, but little else.

And street cred, is that global? Otherwise, I would think most of hers applies to Tir Na Nog.

[SalmonMax]

Hm! Do we all start with 10 street cred? I suspect I missed that.

Oh well, it's easy enough to tweak my background to include it.

[Marko Cain]

At 1,000 karma your PCs base SC is 10.

[SalmonMax]

Ahh, thanks. I hadn't read up on that yet.

[Osiris]

Real Name: Winona (Firstborn in Sioux) “Osiris” McGuinness (distant Cousin of Deirdre’s)

Osiris is an Enigma to most people outside the shadows. Osiris is well known as a Matrix Wiz/Technoshaman and is to some extend rumoured to be some kind of prophet of the Deep Resonance. A lot of the former Otaku even worship her as some kind of mythical creature of the cyberspace saying that her birth was long prophesized in the net.

Osiris seems oblivious to all that most of the time or she takes it as a given fact. Those who have had the dubious pleasure of meeting her personally (i. e. not her icon but in flesh) say that she may be a beautiful elf to look at but as soon as she opens her mouth things get… weird.

She is well known in the Seattle net although no one seems to be able to get a hold of her. She leaves no traces in the net, as if the net itself keeps her hidden.

Possible connections to the other PCs – Osiris could be any of your net-contacts through an alias or she could be someone you’ve been running with a few times. If a run requires some Matrix wizardry she is sure a good pick to get the job done regardless of the rumours about her mental sanity. Only a few people have actually gotten to see her or know who she is if they meet her because no data that could point at her stays saved. It gets erased within a few hours.

(This is Joani, btw.)

[Marko Cain]

Originally Posted By: Deirdre McGuinness

And street cred, is that global? Otherwise, I would think most of hers applies to Tir Na Nog.

REPUTATION
Reputation can be a tricky beast. A solid street rep can do a lot to bolster a runner’s career, convince contacts to do a favor and get her out of tense situations without trouble. On the other hand, too much notoriety and the runners will have
a hard time finding work, earning trust or intimidating opponents.

Likewise, if a runner’s rep stretches out of the shadows and into the public sphere, she’ll find that other shadow denizens are avoiding her like the plague while the heat breathes down her neck.

Reputation breaks down into three factors: Street Cred, Notoriety, and Public Awareness. Each of these should be tracked as a separate score by the gamemaster, or noted on the character’s record sheet.

STREET CRED
Street Cred represents a character’s lifetime accomplishments in the shadows. Th e longer he’s been around, the more he’s done and seen, the more respect she’ll get from her peers.

Street Cred is based on a character’s total earned Karma (see Karma, p. 263), divided by 10 and rounded normally. A character who has earned 35 Karma in the course of a game will have a Street Cred of 4 (35 ÷ 10 = 3.5, rounded up to 4).At the gamemaster’s discretion, additional points may be added to a character’s Street Cred for any epic adventures, stunning victories, unbelievable escapes, or similar eyebrow raising accomplishments.

Street Cred Uses
Street Cred applies as a dice pool bonus to any applicable Social Skill Test in which the character’s reputation is known and is a factor. For example, a fixer with a Street Cred of 3 would receive a +3 dice pool modifier when making an Intimidation Test.

Note that this modifier only applies when the character is dealing with people who are aware of her reputation. Th is also means that a character masquerading as someone else with a substantial Street Cred could use the impersonated character’s Street Cred rating when dealing with others, if the gamemaster wishes to allow it.
Th e Street Cred dice bonus can never exceed the character’s Charisma.

NOTORIETY
A character’s Notoriety reflects the negative side of her reputation—how difficult she is to get along with, how stubborn she is, how many stupid mistakes she’s made and failures she’s had. Notoriety can also reflect callousness, untrustworthiness,
and any evil aspects to a character’s personality that might spur others to steer clear of her.

Each character starts off with a Notoriety of 0 —people have a neutral opinion of her. Modify this according to the following qualities possessed by the character (plus one point per negative quality, minus one point per positive quality):
Positive Qualities: Blandness, First Impression, Lucky
Negative Qualities: Addiction, Bad Luck, Combat Paralysis, Elf Poser, Gremlins, Incompetent, Infi rm, Ork Poser, Scorched, SINner (criminal SIN only), Spirit Bane, Uncouth, Uneducated)

Gaining Notoriety
The gamemaster awards additional Notoriety points for appropriate actions or circumstances. Here are some examples of things that may earn a character a Notoriety point: [*] Failing or refusing to finish a run. [*] Insulting or otherwise pissing off a Mr. Johnson. [*] Picking a fight and losing. [*] Incredibly obnoxious or callous behavior. (“Forget returning that orphanage’s money. Let the brats starve.”) [*] Getting arrested. [*] Betrayal. [*] Killing an innocent person. [*] Earning a powerful enemy or contract on her life. [*] Working for a dragon. [*] Exceptional bad luck.

Note that a character should never earn a Notoriety point for something he’s already earned a Notoriety point for, unless she has somehow gone about it in an innovative way. Characters can reduce their Notoriety by permanently sacrificing some of their Street Cred. For every 2 points of Street Cred burned, Notoriety can be reduced by 1.

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Now technically our SC is 100, making these PCs the best runners to have ever lived... which judging by our Gunslinger Adept's lack of silencers and sound suppressors for his guns I find highly unlikely. (no, you can not live that down Vajra... ever.)

[Marko Cain]

Krul, Deirdre

Arsenal Errata states the maximum DV increase you can obtain from the Martial Arts Quality is +3.

So her DV would be 7. +3 STR, +3 Martial Arts, +1 Critical Strike.

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p. 156 Martial Arts (Positive Quality) sidebar

Add the following sentence to the end of the third paragraph: “The maximum cumulative DV modifier possible is +3.”

[Marko Cain]

How can Marko know people...

Vajra - Could have ran with him at least once.

Uriel - Again, could have ran with him. If the guy is worth his salt and prefers to stay out of the way (sniper support) then he and Marko would have made an efficient stealth team.

Dale - No clue, but considering the high street creds the possessed by the PCs the meeting of these two is not unlikely, if only in passing. "Marko Cain? Yeah, I know of the guy, but never really met him."

Deirdre - This is a toughy, but Marko does go to "Stackhouse's Gym" ran by Brick Stackhouse. A black troll who is about 8 feet tall and five feet wide... nuff said. Markko's in good with Stackhouse (who every one calls Shithouse, as in built like a brick one...). If she works out still she might have seen him in the gym and had someone tell her who he is, his Street Cred would speak for itself. The place is a real dive though, hardly the kinda place a pretty elven girl would be seen in as it may offend her regal elven senses.

Osiris - Marko doesn't know any Otaku so the chances of him knowing any of their reborn Demigods made flesh is highly unlikely. He will most likely need to be introduced to her via another PC or a contact. He'd certainly not be opposed to it either, most often a skilled hacker is far more efficient than a gun and all APDS ammo you can carry.

[Delilah Synn]

About the Street Cred, it mentions earned Karma, not starting Karma, so, technically, we have a street cred of 0. Though as very experienced characters, I guess some of our Karma could contribute to our Street Cred, though some may have been loss burning off Notoriety.

About the Martial Arts, oops. I missed the Errata, and will adjust accordingly.

[Krul]

With regards to Street Cred.. if you were creating these characters with BP's you'd have 0 street cred, even with high skills and such, and it would be 100 street cred (which is a bit high), not just 10.

Now, some of you have been running the shadows a bit, so I'll allow someone to start with a street cred of 3 at a max, if that's covered by your character's background, otherwise it's starting at 0

[Marko Cain]

I've added Reputation to my Psyche Eval...

Street Cred: 3

Public Awareness: 0

Notoriety: 1

His notoriety stems from his Code of Honor. The matter of vengeance and honor are a very thin line and some would view his callous pursuit of his vendetta to certainly be more vengeful than honorable. This is up for some debate, but keep in mind that they are on the outside looking in and Chunin, while he may feel justified in his methods, he's not the consensual opinion of the Shadowlands.

Most traditional Japanese, and the Yakuza don't take his notoriety into account when dealing with him, they are aware of the thin line between honor and vengeance.

[Marko Cain]

Originally Posted By: Deirdre McGuinness

though some may have been loss burning off Notoriety.

Just because people have forgiven, doesn't mean they've forgotten. Erasing a lot of notoriety means the PC has probably done some pretty messed up things, the kinda things they don't forget about just because you don't have a number beside notoriety anymore...

[Delilah Synn]

Marko - 'Stackhouse's' could work. Deirdre would have probably tried a gym in the Elven District, but would grow self-conscious at some of the stares she would get as a changeling. On the other hand, in a dive, she wouldn't feel bad at all about kicking the crap out of anyone giving her any trouble, especially any trogs... as long as they clearly started it... Shithouse is awfully wide.

Maybe they sparred some, and got to talking, about their own styles of martial arts if nothing else.

P.S. is Marko's name (alias, anyway) a subtle indication of his true love of comic books, or just a complete coincidence?

[Marko Cain]

Well, the guy who got the SINs made for him is Yakuza, and some of the Yakuza don't appreciate the way some no name white boy has been receiving attention from some of the traditional Japanese shadow players...

When the guy made his SINs we wanted something 'American' that screamed 'white boy' so he gave him inverted comic book names. He couldn't locate Cpt Americas real name (seriously the guy had better things to do than make Chunin's SINs) or it would have been one of them for sure.

Marko prolly doesn't even know his names are from comics.

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'Stackhouse's' could work. Deirdre would have probably tried a gym in the Elven District, but would grow self-conscious at some of the stares she would get as a changeling. On the other hand, in a dive, she wouldn't feel bad at all about kicking the crap out of anyone giving her any trouble, especially any trogs... as long as they clearly started it... Shithouse is awfully wide.

That's the best part about 'slumming it' on the seedier side of down town, as one of the freaks in a room of freaks... she'd be 'just one of the guys'. About the most she'd have to deal with is everyone (trog or otherwise) asking if she'd like to dance with Mr. Winky. I mean seriously... them tits are huge, you see those things coming around a corner and you have time to fix your hair and pop a breath mint before Deirdre even realizes you're there.

Rest assured though, if she's the type that like picking fights and carries a chip on her shoulder just because she went freak one day (seriously a bunch of Orks and Trolls don't give two shits about her sob story), then Stackhouse will gladly put her on the curb. On the flip side though, the guys there are the 'I got yer back' type, so if she minds her P's and Q's she'll have a place to crash or keep her stuff if the shit gets thick.

[Delilah Synn]

Originally Posted By: Marko

Rest assured though, if she's the type that like picking fights and carries a chip on her shoulder just because she went freak one day (seriously a bunch of Orks and Trolls don't give two shits about her sob story), then Stackhouse will gladly put her on the curb. On the flip side though, the guys there are the 'I got yer back' type, so if she minds her P's and Q's she'll have a place to crash or keep her stuff if the shit gets thick.

Cool, that'll go a long way with helping her dealing with the Surge, and getting over her innate Danaan prejudice too. Hell, the damn trogs have less trouble accepting her than her own people do.

And the pic isn't a perfect representation of her, though yes, she is a 'big' woman. Her distant cousin Osiris was having fun at her expense, or something... Osiris was muttering something about "The Full Moons of Bast" when she made Deirdre's Matrix Avatar.

[Marko Cain]

Originally Posted By: Deirdre McGuinness

Hell, the damn trogs have less trouble accepting her than her own people do.

That's a good point to make. Generally social outcasts tend to be more accepting of people. Sometimes out a desire to be accepted by others or because they know and understand what it's like to spat on and forgotten about.

Sure, she'll have to deal with some flak, especially if she's a good lookin' girl, but that's just boys being boys, and hell some of the women are worse. All in all they're good people, they hang out, have drinks, go to their day jobs and hate them like everyone else, and come to the gym to socialize.

All in all she'll probably come to understand the term 'family' better with that group of over muscled fuck-ups than she ever would back home. Take my word for it.

On average the people that frequent the gym have normal metahuman stats with Body and Strength score 1-2 points higher than average. Stackhouse is the exception, his Bod and Str are maxed for a troll. Their scores don't really matter (no way in hell I'm statting a gym of NPCs unless necessary) but it'll help you get a perspective of how people vary in size and power compared to average people if you do any writing involving them. They mostly have physical jobs, dock workers, go-gangers, construction work, etc...

[Osiris]

Hey guys,

I’m almost done with my sheet – only gear and some minor details are missing which I hopefully will have covered till Friday latest. Unfortunately I can’t chat today…

Anyway now that I’ve got some more details about Osiris in stats and facts I’d like to share a few more bits and pieces with you.

The Cult around her spans a Gang of kids, punks and Technomancers of roughly 1000 members who are organized more or less like a tribe. Osiris being one of their most valued and honored members (most of the Technomancers kinda worship her – whacky netstuff).

Osiris has a Streetcred of 3 and should be a well known Matrixrunner / Technomancer with rumored mystical abilities granting her an almost mythical status although much of it is easily exaggerated or plainly made up (kids and their fantasies…).

Still something about those rumors must be right because she really moves like a ghost in the machine leaving practically no trace behind and has managed to pull of some stunts most Hackers would’ve tailed from.

So if any of you guys may have connections on streetlevel that’s where Osiris can be contacted and found. She doesn’t seem to give much about material possessions (i. e. she could get herself a high quality lifestyle but she simply chooses not to) and has a loosely anarchistic world view.

@Deirdre – since I’m going to be your distant cousin – can you give me some more details about that tie? Currently I don’t know much about it and I’d like to know how their relationship is/how you imagine it.

If anyone else wants to have tie-ins with Osiris – the Gang is the best way to contact her. Maybe some of you guys had them hired as runts for some kind of distraction or as Matrix support (the Gang has 50 Technomancers who are mostly ex-Otakus – they all are highly skilled Matrixwizkids).

[Marko Cain]

I've updated Chunin's profile to include his contacts and combat info.

I lowered his Conjuring Skill Group (I don't see ninja summoning spirits very often) by one and applied the returned Karma to upping his contact rating and modifying some gear.

[Delilah Synn]

Osiris - sent you a PM

Max - Deirdre has her bike modded a bit. I'm guessing you would have been able to do it, and are available to hire?