Yseult Sierra Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Yseult looked from Steve to Kyria and back, her eyes narrowing slightly. "There is another thing to consider as well. The Ascended, they limit the power that is available. When Daniel Jackson came back, he did not possess any of the power he had as one of the Ascended. Here, the Ascended may end up giving us the ultimatum of join us, and abide my our rules, or we will deny you this power." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Steve asked, "Is there a relationship between the Ascended and Heimdall's people?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseult Sierra Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 "The only relationship we know of, is that there was once a great alliance of four races, of which the Ancients - many of which would become the Ascended - and Asgard were members." Yesult looked at Steve, her head slightly tilted, wondering at his line of inquiry.Click to reveal.. Please tell me if I'm missing anything else. There might be a another relationship through the Replicators, but I don't think Atlantis has run into them yet.Yseult also has Photographic Memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Steve nodded and said, "It's just... Omar's super-super nova. If he, they, were here, they'd be the Ascended, and others as well. Just a stray thought." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 "The Watchers were not ascended beings." Omar broke in to disuade any line of thought that they Watchers werew 'ascended'. "They were novas who had reached the pinnacle of their powers and to stave off boredom, they made alternate realities for them to live and explore. They had the same failings and issues that the rest of us have. To my understanding, 'to ascend', you have to reach a moral and philosophical level of enlightenment where you transition from the physical to a higher plane.""As for stripping our powers if we don't join them; that might be a possibility for you, as your powers are derived from contact with an ancient device. Kyria and mine however, are not. I don't know if they could shut off our nodes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Quote: I don't know if they could shut off our nodes.Steve thought, *They could kill you. Seriously good reason to stay off their radar, at least until we're strong enough to give and not have to take demands.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Olivia Jenings-Izumi Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 "Omar, that might be true, but we don't know what the Ascended can and can't do," Olivia pointed out softly. "Some of the things that Anubis has managed to do are incredible, and if I understand things right, he's not using the full might of the Ancients, as he's not one. He just has some of their toys. They might be able to shut you down as well. We just don't know enough about them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z028 Riley Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 "I think they already did. We....we changed when we came here. We...diminished. I'd thought the Watchers had done it, to keep us from being too powerful here, but perhaps it was these Ancients?" She spoke quietly as she glanced between Omar and Olivia. "What if this 'Ascension' is like becoming a being of pure quantum? Everyone that's described it to me, which includes Dr. Jackson, has said that it's a transition from the physical to a pure energy state. I know that that's something novas can do, at least on a temporary level. Perhaps in this universe that is the ultimate next step of human evolution." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Quote:Perhaps in this universe that is the ultimate next step of human evolution.Different universes, different natural laws. The concept was scary. Steve frowned and said, "Does that mean, can the star gates be used to access different realities?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Gwyn chipped in, "You don't need a Stargate to do that Steve, a Quantum Mirror will do that just as well, and probably easier. It doesn't seem to have the same kind of energy demands that a Stargate does and is quickly switchable to a different alternate reality." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Olivia Jenings-Izumi Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 "But it's more random and far less safe to use," Olivia quickly added. "It's not like when you dial another planet; it picks one at random, and you can return only if you don't turn the control device off. If you do, then you have to search through a random assortment of worlds to find it again." She gave an ironic smile. "As you can imagine, it's easy to get turned around and get lost."But it's a comfort to know that somewhere out there, there is an Olivia who didn't make some of the same mistakes that I did, Olivia thought, her face relaxing into a slight smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Gwyn nods grimly, "Oh, yeah Olivia. It's certainly nothing I would recommend using. In fact didn't they destroy at least one of the ones we've found?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseult Sierra Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Yseult remembered the circumstances leading up to the destruction of the Quantum. She had been there, helping Janet with coountering the effects on one of the people who had come through the mirror."We have found only the one Quantum Mirror, Gwyn. It was destroyed after an alternate Samantha Carter and Charles Kowalski, came through it fleeing their reality, seeking help."Yseult paused, her head tilted slightly as another thought came to her. She shifted to focus to include Kyria and Omar. "You two, you have traveled to several different parallel realities, yes? Have either of you ever met your alternate self? I ask, because the alternate Carter, she began to suffer from entropic cascade failure. Due to the presence of two Carters, there was an increase in entropy, which was having a severely adverse affect on the non-native Carter. It would have resulted in her death, had they not been able to send her home." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z028 Riley Posted August 5, 2009 Author Share Posted August 5, 2009 Kyria shook her head. "The realities we visited after I joined the Paragons on Lorean were all vastly divergent from my home timeline. I think meeting myself would be....disconcerting. I was never born here. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Olivia Jenings-Izumi Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Olivia shook her head. "Yseult, they found... another. It was on a planet that 23 cleared out on the last mission before you joined them." She glanced at Omar. "I am right, aren't I? You found a couple of mysteriously killed Jaffa and a Quantum Mirror in the lowest level of the Jaffa building." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseult Sierra Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Yseult gave Olivia a nod, conceding her point. "Ah, yes, there still have been some mission reports I have not had the chance to read yet. That is something I am going to have to remedy."Yseult gave Olivia a questioning look, then raised an eyebrow at Omar. "If you recovered another Quantum Mirror, did you also retrieve its controlling device?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradia McConnell Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Aradia's eyes finally re-focused on the conversation, her brow furrowing at the use of a term she hadn't read about yet."So, I'm probably gonna sound like a dumb ass here.. but what the fuck's a quantum mirror, anyway?"There wasn't a lot that put Aradia in a cross mood that they had seen so far, but with everything else on her mind, hearing all these terms that she wasn't familiar with bantered around was started to irritate her, and there was an edge to her voice that wasn't normally there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Gwyn looked across at Aradia, Yeah, wouldn't really expect her to be one for catching up on old mission reports."It is a device slightly bigger than a full length mirror, and it might even act as a mirror when switched off, I can't remember. Anyway, when you switch it on it shows a different image in the mirror part. An image of what is happening in an parallel world. Quantum physics postulates that there are an infinite number of parallel universes where things went a slightly different way in each. Theoretically that could be as small a difference as which way a molecule of coffee zigged instead of zagged in your mug at breakfast this morning. Practically the ones that where seen and in some cases visited differed by more than that. In some there is no SGC, in others the Goa'uld have already won, I'm sure there will be any number with no Specialists, the list goes on forever."He pauses to see if she is following it at all, then continues, "However, in each case you are looking out of the same kind of device on the other reality, not only can you look through it, you can step through and act as you normally would on the other side. Yseult has mentioned the possible dangers of turning it off once you have gone through though. It tends to lose track of the last place you were looking, or where you came through from, so you have to fiddle around with controller a bit to try to find you way back." His brows furrow briefly, "How did we get on to all this? Oh, yeah the Watcher vs Ascended thing. Well if I understand correctly the Watchers were still physical, despite being uberpowerful Novas, while the Ascended are energy forms how tend to stick to the higher dimensions except the few occasions they have interfered in what's been happening back here. Given that difference I would think that the gene sequences might well be different, but perhaps related?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Quote:"Omar, that might be true, but we don't know what the Ascended can and can't do,""Olivia, the watchers could create their own universes and give them whatever physical laws they felt were appropriate. From what I understand, the Ascended live in a higher plane of existence. We are dealing with 'Camels and Horses'."Omar turned to Gwyn. "Perhapse they are, but there must have beena singular even that cause the two groups to branch. In none of the realities we traveled, were there ever stargates, Ancients, or Ascended." Omar paused and thought a second. "And yes, the device we found does show images of other realities. But since those realities all must have a similar device on the other side, they are all ones in which Ancients were present. Since the Ancients are there, the Watcher's are not. It would seem that the Watchers and the Ancients are mutually exclusive." He smiled at the rest of them and shrugged. "Either way, I cannot reach my branch of the universal tree by using a quantum mirror." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 "No, I wouldn't expect you to be able to - the absence of the Stagate in your own universes points to a major divergence from this branch and as you say the mutually exclusive nature of the Watchers vs Ascended." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courier Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Steve asked, "How long ago were the Star Gates created? Do we know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fox Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Cam spoke up, "The gates were already here and abandoned by the ancients when the Gou'ald first hit the scene, and according to the To'kra the first Gou'ald Dynasty was established around 100,000 years ago. Add to that the fact that Earth's original stargate was located in Antartica and it has been under ice for several million years. There is also speculation that the Ancients seeded the galaxy with life which is how we mere humans came to be. So that would put the gates at perhaps several million years old, but that's speculation. We don't have hard evidence for more than about 100,000 years." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z028 Riley Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 Kyria smiled at Cam and asked, "Do you know how the Stargates were made? Have the SGC or any of the Goa'uld figured out how to make any more? I remember from reading some of the mission briefs that several have been destroyed in the past few years." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fox Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Cam shook his head, "No fraid not. We aren't advanced enough yet although some like Carter understand a good deal about their technology. I imagine we are several generations of manufacturing processess away from being able to duplicate them even once we have a complete understanding of what needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z028 Riley Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 The young telepath looked around the table and smiled, "Maybe not, now. Perhaps we could make that a project for the more mechanically inclined among us? With novas working on both the manufacturing and the schematics of the gates themselves, perhaps we could step that timeline up a few generations." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fox Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Cam considered. With him and Steve on the diagnostics team she just might be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Gwyn looks around the table, "If it's any help Carter has a pretty good understanding of the programming of the Dial Home Device, as well as the wormhole physics involved. I've recently moved on from the Goa'uld science and technology that we know about to start looking at the Asgard and Ancient stuff, so I could give you a hand with it if you wanted."He pauses briefly, "Although I'd be interested to see if it would be possible to duplicate the effect of the Stargate, perhaps on a more limited scale, with our Quantum based abilities."He turns to Kyria, "Did you see anything like that in your other universes?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z028 Riley Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 She nodded, "Oh, yes. There were teleportors and warpers. Warp users can open portals in space somewhat like the Stargate, only you could see what's on the other side of a warp. There isn't the blue event horizon phenomenon that you get with the Stargates. However, only extremely powerful warp users could make warps the distance that the Stargates go; mostly they'd have to do a series of jumps to get from one planet to another unless they were making a hop like from Earth to Mars." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 "Hmm, so it is possible in those universes, but you said that your powers were altered, reduced, when you arrived in this one. So perhaps it won't be possible here."He grins, "That's not going to stop me trying though." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseult Sierra Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Yseult was intrigued by the idea of manufacturing a Stargate. Cameron's computer skills may be adept enough to program one - designing one would be the more difficult part, she believed."We would also need a large source of naquadah to build a Stargate. It is made nearly entirely of naquadah."Listening to all the conjectures on the nature of Novas and Specialists, Watchers and Ascended, Quantum Mirrors and Parallel Dimensions, Yseult realized that twenty-nine-point-three-seven minutes had passed since they left the bank, and that they were now pulling up to the entrance to Cheyenne Mountain.She dismissed all the previous talk, turning her attention back to the pendant. She would review all that had been said at a later time. "Ah, we are back. Aradie, we will have a chance to study the pendant in more detail now, yes?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aradia McConnell Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Aradia nodded at Yseult, hugging the box to her and climbing out of the van with the others as they left the van. After a moment or two of indecision, they finally settled for now on Yseult's lab, and made their way in that direction. Once they finally got to the lab, Aradia laid the box on the desk and opened it up again, letting everyone get a chance to look at it."There.. study away, I guess, right? I'd prefer to keep it though.. you know, when you're not studying it. I mean.. that's what he said. That I would need it, or.. save the world with it or something. So.. I'll just kinda hang out here, if you don't mind..."Aradia perched herself on one of the stools and watched, interested in what they would discover about it but not really able to contribute much herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Gwyn walked ahead once they had decided on Yseult's lab in order to get some sensors and things from his own lab that he hadn't noticed in Yseult's the last time he was there. It didn't take him long to grab the things he thought he might need and people were just starting to get setup in Yseult's lab when he arrived."I thought we might check if it was putting any energy out, or has any generation ability first? By the way, it looks familiar somehow. I'm sure I've seen something like it before, but I can't remember where."As he talks he starts setting up a variety of detectors around the place so that they cover as much as possible without being too much in the way of other people getting to the item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fox Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Cam retrieved his datapad and headed to Yseult's lab. It was nagging at his mind. With his photographic memory he knew he hadn't actually seen the pendant before. There was no way he would forget something like that. It was solid gold with a huge red gem where the eye part was, the gem itself was clear as crystal with no visible imperfections at all. A heavy gold chain attached at each corner of the eye so that when worn the eye would hang suspended on the person's chest as if looking at the viewer. Despite not being faceted the large cabochon gem caught and reflected a good amount of light and almost seemed to glow when looked at from certain angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseult Sierra Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Yseult gave Aradia a sincere smile, a layed a gentle hand on her shoulder. "Of course, Aradie, it is yours, a gift from your grandpère. I will do my best to make sure no harm comes to it." She gave Aradia a nod of assurance, then turned her attention to the pendant."While you check for energy output, Gwyn, I want to find out what that red gem is. I will start a fluorescence spectroscopy test. That should give us a good idea what it is - if we have it on file. And will not - should not - damaging the gem."As Yseult began setting up the laser and fluorometer, she tried to explain what she was doing for Aradia's benefit - it was her pendant after all. "I will fire a beam of ultraviolet light at the gem, and, in theory, the light that the gem emits will enable us to determine what it is. The electrons in molecules of certain compounds react to differing wavelengths of light in a distinct manner, by emitting its own unique frequency of light."Yseult fixed the pendant in place with a soft-pronged bracket, then handed everyone polarized safety glasses. She turned off the lights, then prepared to turn on the laser. "Gwyn, can you continue your test for energy generation while I do my own? Just in case."Yseuly flipped the switch on the laser, and a beam of ultraviolet light lanced out and struck the red gem.Click to reveal.. Oh, why did I make a techie person? I've done more research for Yse than I ever did in high school, maybe even university.Fox - tell me if I need to make a roll, and I'll paste it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fox Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Gwyn was quick to discover that there was no energy being emitted at all. He had in fact just finished his scans when Yseult was ready to begin her own. Since his instruments were passive there was no reason to turn them off so he continued monitoring just in case there might be a reaction.There wasn't. However, two things became clear from Yseults scans. First was that the stone refracted light in a very strange fashion. It almost seemed like the stone was faceted when the light shone on it. The second thing didn't become apparent until Yseult compared the results against the charts of known materials. The stone was not on the chart, it was no Earthly gem or equivalent, it's signature was more like a cross between a metal and a gem. That was surprising, but not unheard of... naquadah was a similar substance, having many properties of a metal but also some of a crystal. This red stone was more on the other side bearing more crystalline properties but still showing almost metallic on the scans. One thing was absolutely certain, it was no natural Earth stone.((If you have any dots in Alien Tech skills such as Gou'ald Tech, Asgard Tech, or Ancient Tech, which people are allowed to start buying, btw, then you may make a roll to guess at it's origin. If you don't have alien tech skills, then a straight science roll is allowed but at a +2 diff.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Gwyn ponders the riddle of the crystal, but comes up blank.Click to reveal.. Science roll - since didn't know other skills were available.INT 5 + M-INT 1 + Science 4 + Specialisations in Goa'uld and Ancient 1 = 11dice, first Mega(10:32:49) ChatBot: (Gwyn) rolls 11d10 and gets 2,7,1,4,6,5,6,8,5,6,6.= 2 sux - Not enough at +2 diff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseult Sierra Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Yseult studied the bizarre results, her mind looking inward to compare and contrast them with all the other tidbits of information she had gathered over nearly six years with the SGC...... And she made a connection that she never would have considered before, had it not been for the enhancements granted by the Ascension Device..."This crystal, it has properties very similar to the crystals that the Ancients used as the core of their technology and information storage. I have seen results analogous to these from studies made at the Ancient Outpost in Antartica.""Goa'uld crystals function in a similar manner, since they are based on their Ancient counterparts. From these readings, I don't believe this crystal is used to power a device. It may be a component in another Ancient or Goa'uld device, or, more likely, stores information."There was a slight frown on Yseult's face as she stared at the pendant, pondering what Aradia's Grandfather, Kyria's father in another dimension, had left for them.Click to reveal.. (Science Roll) Int 5 + M-Int 2 + Science 5 = 12 dice, first 2 Mega12d10=44 = 5 successes (Sorry, forgot to add the 'hit' number)Discerning Quality = +1d10 1d10.hits(7)=1 success 6 successes - 2 difficulty = 4 successes total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z028 Riley Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Kyria watched the others with the interest of someone who genuinely enjoys learning at every chance she gets. The crystal didn't mean anything to her, but the odd way it refracted light was starting to make her eyes water. She arched a brow at Yse's findings. "Could there be something in the Antarctic Outpost that could read it, then? Or maybe the Asgard know how to decrypt it? It'd be something worth asking Heimdall tomorrow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 "Good points Kyria. Although if it is Goa'uld then Cam should be able to read it here. However, first of all we need to check if the crystal needs to be removed from the rest of it in order to work, and if so how we can do that without damaging the rest of the item."Gwyn takes another look at it, looking for any writing on it, or any sign of catchs, switches etc.Click to reveal.. Per + Investigate = 5 + 1 = 6 dice(01:29:05) ChatBot: (Gwyn) rolls 6d10 and gets 9,3,9,9,9,7.= 5 sux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fox Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Investigation reveals no writing or catches anywhere on the pendant.((Olivia, Gwyn and Cam can make a straight Int check.))Click to reveal.. (19:39:52) ChatBot: (Cam) rolls 6d10 and gets 6,5,5,1,1,1.triple botch... Cam is massively clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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