Dave ST Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 So who goes first?Generally it's pretty easy to tell who goes first during combat, those with Amazing go before those with Good.But what happens when several people all go during the same phase? In this case it's generally defaulted to who rolled better on the action check. Like Erebus recently rolled an 8 while Shiro rolled a 12. Both act in the Ordinary phase, but Erebus goes first because his roll is closer to the better result.Enemies don't actually roll action checks, they're simply assigned a phase in which they're allowed to act and take their attacks as normal. Usually they go after PCs, but if a PC wants to wait and see what an enemy is going to pull before they act they can.Generally Action Checks aren't too big of an issue since PCs are generally good about just pulling the ol' "You can go before, it's no biggie." and then just figure stuff out from there. From time to time though it's a good idea to know exactly how the order works, so there it is.In the event of a tie... higher dexterity always wins out. So if Erebus and Shiro were tied, Shiro would go first since his Dex is 13 compared to Erebus's 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Does that mean Isis can go again before Erebus? And if so, does that mean she can try to give him another bonus in addition to what she's already done? Or would changing her action now negate what's already happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Isis is permitted 2 actions per round. From Amazing to Marginal is all one round. So the first mishap that she had in the Amazing phase she countered in the Good phase. She's taken the two actions she's allotted for the round.When you act in a phase that's higher than everyone else you can choose to either act in that phase, or just wait to go with everyone else on a different phase. The upside is that you might take out an enemy before they become a problem.Let's say a character is permitted 4 actions per round, but rolls a Marginal action check... they may only go once (in the Marginal phase) and lose their other three actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annwn Corso Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Sorry I've been out of touch, guys. I should be back in action now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'm working on a map for the station. That's the delay. However, all players are encouraged to mingle amongst themselves and converse, plot, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annwn Corso Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Sorry, Max! I didn't see the update in Recent Posts with all the other activity that's been going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Hee, no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 It's been nine days. I'm moving ahead. Assume the diag happened off camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 With Rorx being the only active participant in this game I'll be shutting it down (sorry Rorx). One or two people is not enough to complete any of the major plot points.This game is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 I've been giving it some thought, and frankly it irritates me. This was a damn good story-line and I'm pretty disappointed the it's dead.I'm not disappointed at you, the players, nor at myself, so stymie your self righteous 'Happy Pretendy Fun Time' bullshit.I've come up with two reasons why this failed:1. You people don't know the Alternity, and some couldn't be bothered to read the rules. That's fine, it's cool. Can't say I blame ya but it doesn't make you any less of a tool. It's a good system, you're missing out.2. A lot of us rely on the 'Recent Posts' sidebars to see what we need to reply to, and Alternity was easily overshadowed by more active things going on at the time. Again, that's fine, this place can get quite busy sometimes.So, I've come up with what I believe is a solution for you the players and myself.1. Revamp the system to Future d20. Since Alternity was the inspiration for 90% of the contents of the d20 Future books you'll hardly notice a difference. It's also a system that everyone knows and can understand relatively well.2. You guys can pay more attention and I'll make a better effort to keep you informed of recent posts. I'm not a swift poster. I'm not Fox or Carver who have nothing to do with their time but cater to the fantasy lives of people who should be out exercising or helping their community. I understand that you people have jobs and schedules so I make the effort to keep the game at a mellow pace so everyone has a chance to respond and get their PC in on the action... apparently this approach wasn't helpful at all since Rorx and Max were the only ones posting by the time it was all said and done...This is my plan.I'll leave this thread open for awhile to discuss the possibility of revamping this setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Moss Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Interested in a new player? I almost got caught up in it the first time, but bowed out so that Jordan could play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'd be willing to give it another go. The rules for d20 are available for free online too via the SRD, though some improvising may have to be done to allow a robot PC. I'm not sure off the top of my head if they had rules for that...Edit: I take it back, they do. Neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Yeah, I'll happily go for a revamp.Just gotta see how close I can convert Gabriel, or whether I'll have to go for something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin OOC Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 yeah I'm in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Moss Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I know I'm not it yet (if ever) but do you feel you need a Doc more than a diplomat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yes Adrian, you'd be welcome to join the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivi OOC Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Sure. Count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Those of us who had characters before, do you have a preference between remaking those characters as closely as possible in d20 Future and making entirely new characters, Dave?Will we be starting over, or picking up where we left off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 I was thinking I'd leave that up to you guys. Either way my feelings wont be hurt.Speak up, express your opinion on whether or not you'd like a shot at something new or just to pick up where we left off.Once we decide on that we'll get into what books and rules we'll be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Moss Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Gotta find a copy of d20 Future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Or you could use the System Reference Document for free. http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/MSRD:Modern_System_Reference_DocumentAndhttp://d20resources.com/future.d20.srd/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'd be happy to pick up with the Alternity rules still where we left off, just edit missing characters out of the ship and new ones catching us up from on-board.If we are going to change then I'd like to know what books, only ones I've got so far are the D20 Modern-Future and the Future Tech books. So far no sign of the Psionic rules that I'd need to do Gabriel...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Psionics are in the standard d20 Modern core rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 Focus guys, I said we'd worry about books after we decided whether we were going to start off new, or pick up where we left off.Worry about the books we'll be using later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Moss Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 *stops putting his Alternity stuff away* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin OOC Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I prefer to keep my character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivi OOC Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I'm fine with picking up where we left off.I'm just curious how many people plan to stay on, and of those that do, how many will be keeping their current character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 Okay.Oh, the 'Mecha Jockey' class is in the Future D20 book. You might wanna give it a look, along with the 'Dogfighter' advanced class.Both cater to Shiro's background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 If too many people switch PCs then we'll just start over again. It's not a big deal either way but I can't say 'poof' and all of a sudden everyone standing in the control room is now a different class, species, gender, etc...I don't mind bullshittin' a few things for the sake of story, but c'mon, there's only so much we can pass off as 'makes sense'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Ok, going to do a variation on Gabriel since the Psi stuff is different in the new rules. He will be more combat oriented - a Battle Mind. Looking through the modern stuff at the moment then will get to changes made to/for the future stuff.Are you going to be including any of the Psi-tech listed in Future Tech (haven't read it, just noticed the heading was there)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin OOC Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Shiro just became a mechjock..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Moss Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 The Doctor is IN! Well, he's in the incubator, but there are signs of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Not sure if this is the right place for it, but I looked up the d20 Future rules on robot PC's. Turns out we were both right, kind of, about how robots gain skills and feats.There's different rules for Heroic (ie PC) robots and Nonheroic robots.Heroic robots gain skills and feats using the following passage:Skills: A bioreplica gains and assigns skill points as other nonhuman characters do. It uses its Charisma modifier on Constitution-based skill checks (including Concentration checks).Free Language Skills: A bioreplica can read, write, and speak one language.Feats: A bioreplica receives no feats at 1st level. However, it gains feats normally as it advances in level.-----Nonheroic robots use this passage:Nonheroic robots don’t get class levels. However, they can receive factory-installed skill and feat software, allowing them to emulate specific skills and feats as part of their programming (see Skill Software and Feat Software).-------So the skill and feat softwares aren't necessary for a PC robot, but would be used for any "nonheroic" robots, by RAW.This is using this SRD address:http://www.durman.net/sailcat/d20msrd/index.htmThough the rule would be the same on any site (or should be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 You would be right, I usually forget that the Skill/Feat Webs are reserved for 'Ordinary' robots. You caught me there.Although it never made sense to me how Heroic Robots are capable of things their hardware does not allow, it's like allowing them to pick up a rock despite them not being given hands (or anything else to grip a rock with).Just add those two items (free of charge), humor me, just so neurosis doesn't force me to rip out my hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hehe, fair nuff. I figured it was just heroic robots being advanced AI's or something. But it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorx Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Right, finally got a rough version of a d20 Gabriel sorted out - will try to tidy it up in the next day or so. Do I PM it to you Dave or post it up in the Profiles area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ST Posted May 4, 2009 Author Share Posted May 4, 2009 Just send it to that PM we're all in so we can discuss things and see how the characters turn out. Like I said, if they end up too weak I'll bump them up a bit, since this could end up to be some brutal high powered gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Dave, got a question. We're starting at level 6, but I can't seem to find how to handle starting funds for characters who are higher than level 1. How do you want to handle that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Moss Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Man, I don't even know how to approach equipment, and what equipment the team will have ... and what Tech Level we'll be at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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