Alex Craft Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 There was some talk a little while back about doing something with 'Where Heaven Ends' from World Wide II when those events come around next year. I just thought I'd point out that 'Dominion,' from the same book, has not yet played out. The early events in Skopje are long over, but more is still to come:• In mid-July, Radu Szlaniskovich starts stirring things up in India.• On August 9th, India declares its dispute with the UN and Project Utopia over the India Syndrome issue.• Word of Szlaniskovich's activities gets out one way or another (someone's been dealing with Smith and/or Pradmurabpan, one of Szlaniskovich's secretaries rats him out, or something else happens). Most major organizations, from Utopia to Teragen, scramble to stop Szlaniskovich.• Shortly after August 20th, Szlaniskovich and his posse hit Moscow and Kiev in an attempt to take over the Ukraine.I don't know if anyone wants to actually get in on these events, but I figure it'll probably have some effect (even if it's only a news blurb). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 It hasn't escaped my attention, and I'm really looking forward to playing with it when it comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 PU is short handed, this is the kind of mess that raises the temptation to give Dr. Troll a field mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 YT is so there..Making a new nation, right up her ally..If the pay is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Note: The basis of the scenario is that the Dominion Elites are nigh on unbeatable compared to PCs. Well, let's be honest, most of the PCs here would treat the listed NPC Elites like prison bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 True, but I think most of use know our place. I wasn't so much hoping that the board could become directly involved, but I'd think that some of us would at least be on the periphery of these events and have something to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 We would be the kind of novas mis-directed to other hot spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Considering nprime seems to be sphinx-central on occasion, I'd think most of the heavy hitters would use it as a distraction to advance their own goals. Although I could easily see an idiot like Sphere go piling into the region and barely make it back out alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Additional. Would the Terats try and stop him? I'm sure the Primacy would be interested to see how easy it is to take and hold a country. If nothing else they'll get a good idea of what the response from the baseline governments would be like if they ever tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Some Terats would, others would help and others would stand aside. We're a fun group that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charr Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Last I knew, the basic idea of Terats and the Teragen was to not rule over baselines but to be separate, hence how Teragen PCs can be apart of the canon story.Well, that's the 'party' line, so it doesn't have to apply to all Terats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Yeah, but you have people like the Pandemonium faction who use baselines as they like. Not quite as separatist as some T-rats. Primacy discuss taking out vital baseline governments that could resist them in the Teragen book.I don't really see how the hardcore Terats would care that Novas were asserting themselves over the inferior monkeys. Ones that tried to interfere could easily be accused of being too supportive of baselines in their thinking. Not something that is looked kindly upon by the radical elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 The book describes the Terat core being solidly against the Ukraine attack - even going so far as to say Mal might step in and have a friendly word with the players on the subject. But it does seem likely that at least a few would have other interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 That's the problem you get when you have different creators working on different books. I can see both sides. I would tend to fall along the idea that opinions would be split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charr Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 I always saw it as a problem of trying to force every one into the same "let's save the zips from the evil novas" role regardless of alligiance.Mal will have a talk and explain it to someone? Yeah. Right. Pull the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Charr, the problem isn't the Evil Novas, its the baseline reaction in general that Mal would be worried about. Add to that the reaction of somewhat patriotic novas, and you have a real problem for the One Race.Its a theory, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 No, the problem is "Evil Novas", or rather, compitition.Assume a group of novas actually do take over a 'real' country and build a nova haven.Now novas that get kicked out by baseline society would run to "haven" rather than join the Teragen. Worse, they join a group that is as anti-Teragen as Utopia.The Teragen doesn't view itself as "good" or "evil", they try to view themselves as "other". Vlad's Evil is just as against what they are trying to do as PU's Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted August 13, 2004 Author Share Posted August 13, 2004 Shit hits the fan in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Meaning that things pop up all over the world as distractions for the real deal.Question: Do you think it would be bad enough for Utopia to risk giving Troll a field mission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 I would think Troll would be assigned to one of the distractions on the big day when Impaler attacks Kiev. And the meetings on the 20th regarding what to do with the threat would likely be attended by the resident experts on elite affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charr Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Please god yes! If only to hear those two magic words:<font size="7" color="#FF0000">TROLLS SMASH!</font><font size="2">On second though maybe Utopia isn't all that keen to get him back in the field.</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted August 13, 2004 Author Share Posted August 13, 2004 I dunno. I suppose they could just strongly admonish him not to make more than a few clones, right?Of course, like you said earlier, none of us are likely to actually be on the scene. Who's idea was it to have a war in the Ukraine, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 The Ukraine was chosen because the Confederacy (former Soviet Union) is the place Impaler has the most intelligence. With that know-how, they'll be able to immediately knock out Moscow's ability to mount a defense, quickly get to Kiev and take control of the government. I'm sure he'd pick a nicer place if he had better intelligence for other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charr Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Like French Polynesia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 I was thinking Tahiti or even Nevada (viva Las Vegas), but different strokes for different folks.To those of you who have Phase II: page 85 has a sidebar that directly addresses the "Why the Ukraine?" question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Quote:Charr:...second though maybe Utopia isn't all that keen to get him back in the field.Yeah, they'd probably send him to some out of the way place where it was unlikely he'd actually see action... like the Ukraine maybe. And the question is, "how many clones is too many?" Even Troll isn't sure what the limit is......hmm... I really need to put "accidental usage" on his clone power. Like maybe when ever he takes damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 No one is strong as Troll! NO ONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted August 14, 2004 Author Share Posted August 14, 2004 "Like maybe when ever he takes damage?"Trips, falls down the stairs. Whoops, there goes Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 No no, "You're going to hurt me. You wouldn't like me when I'm hurt." (I'm such a dorky cheeseball)Oops, forgot: there's going to be a HUGE issue between China and Japan, if not right now. Something to keep in mind for some characters. *coughProdigySakurakocough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted August 14, 2004 Author Share Posted August 14, 2004 Yes, there is that. Some pretty vague thing about the Japanese Directive 'monitoring' the Chinese populace. There is an optional story element saying that a limited war breaks out between Japan and China (actually, I think that should be happening right about now).This 'war' is really just periodic skirmishing between Nippontai and the Exploding Heavenly Mandate (which I'm sure sounds much better in Chinese). In fact, a Japanese telepath is supposed to have gotten some of the goods on the conspiracy, so Japan isn't even fighting with live ammunition, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 While taking a break so I could think about something that isn't law, something occured to me: what will happen here after Dominion?While none of the OpNet characters will be directly involved in it (well, IMHO that is), there will be a residual affect and it'll be something for the characters to talk about. Does the conspiracy succeed or fail? Do the conspirators get away to become antagonists/protagonists in pieces written by us? Do they all die? Do they end up in the Siberian lockup?I think this is information we might want to consider. We should at least say whether or not Impaler's plan succeeds (I vote no: they fail). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted August 16, 2004 Author Share Posted August 16, 2004 I'm all for their failure. I believe that at least Slaniskovich will probably escape, since he was supposed to be the hardest to catch. Beyond that, I don't much have an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I vote FAILURE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Failure as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Another vote for Failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Aside having Impaler escape (he's way too cool to drop out just yet), I've left the end result rather open in the topic on the OpNet. I only mention Big Time and UV by name because of their natures (total nutterbutters), Singularity's knowledge of their natures from working with them at DV, and the fact that he would've gunned for them because of said natures.Like I aluded to in the post, I can see Whisper and Shinobi getting away via stealth and movement powers, but I'm not married to any particular option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zima Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Somebody help me out here (my copy of WWII is about an hour and a half away right now). Name one of the Elites involved (preferably a brick) with a relative weakness to psychic attack. (no Psychic Shield/relatively low Willpower). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Oddly enough, UV has the lowest at 5, oops.Diecast and Megalith both have a Willpower at 6 and are huge bricks. Oh, and Impaler is the only rouge elite with Psychic Shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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