Deeth Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 I thought I had read somewhere about being able to transfer quantum from your personal pool to another nova's pool.Is this in one of the books, and if so... where?Otherwise, would that be considered a power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby1024 Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 You can do the opposite with Quantum Leech, transfer other people's QP into your pool. I don't recall seeing anything about the opposite way around. The closest power I could find is Nova Proxy, which transfers your powers to another person.But, I'd say that at any rate, you'd have to make it a power. Probably L2-3, and I'd insist that it's not a perfect transfer without an Extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeth Posted March 8, 2003 Author Share Posted March 8, 2003 What about an extra for Q. Leech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 There's also Quantum Infuse on this site, but it's not so powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 Quantum Infuse...Sounds like some sort of anime style attack...^.^ Never mind me...I've never been a rules heavy type. I just like playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 I like the way Quantum Infuse looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Posted March 9, 2003 Share Posted March 9, 2003 Is it node rating or the amount that you can spend according to your node? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvertalon Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 What about the special fabric, that allows you to draw quantium out of it, into the users pool? I do not have the book with me at work so I cannot look up the name. But is that what your aslo refering to? ------------------------------Oopsie, I miss read the primary post my bad, ignore this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 Silvertalon:It's called EuFiber. You can store Quantum into it and draw off of it like an emergency battery.But, this thread is about transferring your own quantum to someone else when needed. Sort of like an emergency blood transfusion. Except it's a power for transferring quantum.I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeth Posted March 14, 2003 Author Share Posted March 14, 2003 I took it as an extra for quantum leech, and called it reversable.... Since QL would allow you to take quantum beyond what their node would allow, it would make sense that you could put it back without concern of their node as well. I don't see it being a lvl 2 or higher ability since it does no dmg, or cause any negative effects. Maybe as a seperate lvl 1 power but that seems like overkill for cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 Mirror copy QL, make it a seperate power.That way you can buy extras with it like ranged or reduced q cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby1024 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 Actually, I would definitely class it as a L2 power, mostly because it's effects can't be duplicated by mundane technology, and because of it's effectiveness in many situations. L1 is far too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 I think it depends on whether this is an combat useful ability or a medical aid and maybe the time needed to transfer. Theres a big difference between charging up your buddy in a split second so he can cut loose on your enemies and just doing the nova equivalent of CPR.CPR sounds tech equivalent and level 1 to me even if the situation isn't one a baseline would run into. Just an exotic version of Boost or a highly specialized application of Attunement. Acting as a living battery to extend your allies combat abilities sounds level 2 and a counterpart to Quantum Leech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 Actually I like the extra for Quantum Leech idea the best.IMO a level 1 or even a level 2 power would be a bit too easy for PCs to get and could easily be abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 I don't think it's that easy to abuse. I'm also not usually willing to pay five nova points to give someone three points of juice. I like the idea of having a limit based on node, even if I'm not sure what that limit might be. Characters with Quantum Leech have developed a specific power for integrating the energies into themselves. However, other novas have to rely on their natural ability to 'generate' quantum. If someone isn't expecting to be juiced up, it seems right that their natural absorbtion of ambient quantum energies should apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 Hmm. I think that I'm going to back off my position above a bit. Take a look at Nova Proxy (Teragen p128) with the Surrogate Pool extra. That alone would come VERY close to what Eufiber does naturally AND let the nova grant the target extra powers. In fact with a bit of ST tweaking the ability to "grant a quantum pool" to a baseline could be applied to another nova pretty much as written (2 quantum spent to grant 1 for the target).Maybe a level two power would be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzaviar Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 In my opinion I would not allow it. One thing is to attack a quantum signature and "rape" it, converting to your own juice to use is great given the aspect that yo may gain taint. But in the spirit of the game, I can not see any Nova natrualy having the ability to pump someone else up. As te books lead to, each quantum signature is unique. Taking any quantum and converting it to your own signiture, to me seems easier, because of your Nodes familiarity with its own signature.The opposite would not hold true. As the user of this Quantum gifting does not know the other signature, and pushing quantum that has been "formated" for another into the system, in my opinion, have some serious consequence. It still should be a conversion roll of somesort, and also probably and increased chance of taint, especially if trying over load the Q pool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeth Posted April 10, 2003 Author Share Posted April 10, 2003 Hmmm, Xzav, thats a good point....Going to have to bounce this around with the group sat... It gives me something for a spin to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 I'll invoke Nova Proxy again. Why should it be harder to grant another nova a few Quantum Points than it is to grant them a whole new power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzaviar Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Quote:I'll invoke Nova Proxy again. Why should it be harder to grant another nova a few Quantum Points than it is to grant them a whole new power?New Nova's Learn new applications to channel their Quantum through every day. Using Nova Proxy does not teach a new power but "opens" the node a bit wider, creating a new channel for it to bring the energy in the physical world. A Nova's Node channels converts ambient quantum linked to that nova's signature, and channels it based upon that Nova's outlook's and beliefs. Some Nodes can pull quantum from other sources, and increase the conversion (High Node rating), While others have a vampiric node that is well adept at converting all forms of quantum energy(Quantum Leech). The node acts as a converter like AC/DC power adapter From the Cigarette lighter to the adapter to the sony tv.... Now when the Node channels that energy it is canneled as what it was converted to...It can be argued that a Node can convert the stored energies back to Raw quantum, but I argue that the receiving Node would have to be able to convert that mas amount of quantum at that one instant and convert it. If it is overloaded and could not convert it I would rule it would be handles as if you your self tried to quickly Rapid recovery, then taint would be gained as it warps and overloads the Node. My whole arguement is the reciving node has to be able to convert that much quantum at one time to recieve the QP. And only a node that has a power such as a Nova that has Quantum Leech. That has practice converting that much of large quantum at once....But Hey, it is your game, if a Player wants to Pump up other Nova's then go for it, He would have lots of Freinds ;-) But also consider the impact it would have, as the Power house now has access to another 20 QP as the back up pumps him up with QP, to unleash his Ray of reckogning time after time..... In my game I would limit it to a Nova who has a really really grasp on quantum energies... Thus a mastery or level 4 power or extra that would make it level 4.... Besides as a nova I would horde my QP, afraid of the communist over controling utopian Pigs... *grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Xzaviar:New Nova's Learn new applications to channel their Quantum through every day. Using Nova Proxy does not teach a new power but "opens" the node a bit wider, creating a new channel for it to bring the energy in the physical world. I Disagree.Nova Proxy can allow baselines to use nova powers and hold quantum. Plus with the Surrogate Pool extra it is quite clear that one nova can use anothers quantum pool with Nova Proxy. IMO that alone invalidates quite a bit of your argument.I like your theory I just don't think that the rules support it so I would never use it in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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