Xzaviar Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Well NOW after a year of having the Adventure book, I glazed through it, and having read Aberrant books somewhat Thouroghly, of Course I have my Opinion of how the two mesh. Of course both sources are ambiguos, but for good reasons... I am in search for others opinions as to who, what, when, where and why.Of course most people know Dr Primoris becomes Divas Mal... From what I understood, is the inspired are still about, the Daredevils exist in 2008, the mesmerists become what is known as the Psions in trinity so obviously they are apart of the aberrant setting, and the stalwarts are a watered down version of Nova's... But what has Divas done since he dissappeared in the battle with the aeo society?? Did he help put the sattelite in space only to destroy it? ( Ithnk this is a given but who knows)And what of Mr Mercer??With Divas Having better part of 80 years to discover his abilities, how did PAX get so powerful so quick, almost, note I said Almost, to rival Mal...??What other Nova's Predate the satelite?Just a few things to get a good thread going.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 As you will notice, a nova with a quantum of 4 is almost the match for someone with a quantum of 5...But whena nova reaches 6, the novas with one less is not mucha of a threat to them.SO wile pax is indeed mighty,and is the secound most powerful nova in the world.Mal is still greater.So wile Pax, stand above most novas in the way most novas stand above baselines.Mal stands above Pax in the way Pax stand above novas.Pax is one the scale of the nukes we used in world war 2, Mal is right up there with the MIRV ICBM tridant missles.Both are things to be in awe of, but one is just another scale.Now why do I say this.Well aside form the fact that Mal can take Pax's blast and shrug them off.Mal can just turn Pax off.Like I said, Mal is to Pax what Pax is too a starting level nova.But when you get on bigger scale you have to deal with that if Mal wanted to kill Pax, he could and would have done so years ago.I do nto mena to be rude, but re-read the fight,Mal was using his kiddy glove on Pax.ANd was still clearly winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrake Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 I don't think more than one or two Inspired are still around in the Aberrant era. They were created by the energies released by the Hammersmith incident. These energies created an ambient background conducive to the Inspired after the explosion, one that eventually faded away. Long before the Aberrant era, there weren't any new Inpsired being created and the world has settled back into a more ordered progression of time and dimensions.The mesmerists and stalwarts were proto-versions spawned from the same potentials in humanity that would later give rise to the psions and the novas. They were partially triggered by the Hammersmith incident, but not to the same level that their later counterparts would be. The daredevils were another form of activation, one that didn't go far enough to diverge between the two potentials and that drew on the abnormal environment of the times.It seems to me that the explosion of the Galatea was just a cover up for the real cause of N-Day. This event was Primoris/Mal's culmination of decades of research to recreate the conditions of the Hammersmith explosion that gave rise to him. Bear in mind that both Mercer and Primoris were unique because they took the full brunt of the initial explosion. Primoris just decided he didn't want to be alone anymore.The pre-Galatea novas could be statistical blips of the activation of the human potential for eruption. Or, they could be a side effect of the fading Hammersmith energies on humanity. Lastly, they could have been due to exposure - deliberate or otherwise - to Mal's quantum energies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzaviar Posted April 14, 2003 Author Share Posted April 14, 2003 Ghost of Sandy Davis Wrote Quote: I do nto mena to be rude, but re-read the fight,Mal was using his kiddy glove on Pax.ANd was still clearly winning.,,I do not take as rude, so have at it, secondly, I did not get to read the entire phase 1 book, only got to read bits and parts, I need to order the book, or find a copy... I realize Max was holding back in that battle. But why? is it that he secretly realizes Pax's determination, and that he realizes Pax's potential, or is it that he knows Pax well eventually lose his humanity as he delves farther in his power. Does Mal think/know eventually all the Nova's will either do one of two things... die, or drift away from humanity, thus do the same thing he has, seperate himself from the baselines?... Or does Mal consider himself a greater power and finds Pax not worth the display oo waste of energy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Mal seems to consider Pax to be a child. He hoped that by showing Pax that he was not the most powerful nova around would bring him back to his senses and a reasonable dialogue could then go forward. However if anything loosing the fight seems to have driven Pax over the edge in terms of finding ways to increase his power more quickly so that he can fight Mal again.Yet another case where Mal intends for something to happen only to have the opposite occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzaviar Posted April 14, 2003 Author Share Posted April 14, 2003 Quote: It seems to me that the explosion of the Galatea was just a cover up for the real cause of N-Day. This event was Primoris/Mal's culmination of decades of research to recreate the conditions of the Hammersmith explosion that gave rise to him. Bear in mind that both Mercer and Primoris were unique because they took the full brunt of the initial explosion. Primoris just decided he didn't want to be alone anymore. I would dare to say it was the cause, but not an accident. Mal has had years to study his own biology, but Hammersmiths findings as well. Since his dissapearance, and the onset of the space age, I beleive Mal perhaps aided in putting the Galatea in space, or at least the technology. In the core book, it seems as if something destroyed the shuttle, Mal? perhaps another Nova? perhaps baseline group influenced by Mal?...As to the inspired, if the Galatea was a recreation of Hammersmiths experiment, why did the rest of humanity that had the same make up as the inspired, become inspired as well?I have not purchased Trinity, (and truly do not have an urge to)... what prompts the Psions to arise?...In my bit far fetched version of Aberrant, I figured that Hammersmith was a combination of three energies, each reactive differntly with Different genetic make up. While Galatea only affected those with the stalwart make up, but to a much greater extreme. With that theory though, it would mean a second release of energy would have to happen to awaken the psions?...I do belive the daredevils are either no longer of in so few number that they do not make a difference in Aberrant, for the are outshown by the attention the Nova's get. Is the Aeon Society still Spearheaded by the inspired? or the decendents of the origial Inspired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby1024 Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Mandrake:I don't think more than one or two Inspired are still around in the Aberrant era. They were created by the energies released by the Hammersmith incident. These energies created an ambient background conducive to the Inspired after the explosion, one that eventually faded away. Long before the Aberrant era, there weren't any new Inpsired being created and the world has settled back into a more ordered progression of time and dimensions.Interesting.My take has always been that Inspiration strikes where it will. I expect that Stalwarts and Mesmerists (in their adventure form) became less common after the Adventure Era closed, but I've been of the belief that Daredevils have, and always will be, around. Fortune favours the bold, after all. The thing is, Daredevils are so damn subtle in terms of visible power, that most people shrug them off as just being damn good/lucky Baselines/Neutrals. Hell, I expect that Daredevils had a mini-revival in the Nova Age, just because Novas naturally create situations where the baseline needs that certain edge. I'm of the firm belief that Thetis pretty much /has/ to be a Daredevil, and I expect that The Directive's ranks are chock full of them. Hell, I'd bet that the Church of Michael Archangel has a few floating around.Besides, game-wise, you need someone who can see through the Mega-Intelligent player's plots and schemes, who seems to have an unerring knack for avoiding Quantum Bolts, etc. That, and they're cool. That's always counting for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 Thetis has a node. My take was that Thetis was either a latent or a stealth nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Xzaviar:... what prompts the Psions to arise?...Some bizarre group of aliens called the Doyen came along with some groovy nanotechnology vat thingies that they gave in secret to certain selected people (called proxies). These tanks can unlock the latent potential of psions and turns on their psychic powers. Depending what tank you're dunked in pretty much determines your scope of powers (i.e. telepathy/ psychokinesis/ clairvoyance etc,) though you can get limited abilities from other spheres. You have to be latent in that particular sphere though they leave it kind of deliberatly vague in the usual WW sty-le.One of the scenarios in the darkness revealed series states that Novas and Psions have the same genes, unlocked one way it leads to Nova powers, unlocked another way it leads to Psions.You also have got the fact that these genes seem to be spread pretty uniformly through the human genepool.These three facts lead to my take on this sort of thing:-Weak novas, semi-latent psions, stalwarts, mesmerists etc, etc, have always been around. What Hammersmith, Galatea and yer magic Tanks do is boost the power level in a particular way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 I coudl qoute kirby but that would not really help my point. The fact that most truely great plans are broke by the fact that someone does something so stupid that it falls apart.THis is true form the inside and the outsideSOme of the greatest things have happened out of shere stupidity.THe civil war was won in a smallw ay because grant forgot about some of his troops,and did nto give them oders to move.One could say that thsi was the best thing he could have done, but in his plan he wantedthsoe meant o be in a diffrent place.ANd as the saying goes the best laid plan in any conflict lasts as long as the plan is on paper,as soon as it starts the plan is worthless.Also when looking into a problem it sometimesthe most nivie questions that get the moost truth.Now the idea that psions and novas have the gene types, was clearly stated in the Aberrant player's guide.In fact eitehr you become anova or a psaid is based on weither or not there are mroe novas or psaid/psions. If left to themsleves there would be about an equal chance of beecoming either.THe reaon there are som many novas in the nova age, is Mal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xzaviar Posted April 24, 2003 Author Share Posted April 24, 2003 Now what of Dr Primoris/Mal From the WWII era till The Nova Age... Would Mal have helped put the Satelite into Orbit... It is almost given that Mal had something to do with it... but WHAT?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 From what I recall, it has been stated that while the public may think the Galatea had some involvment with N day, it was simply Mal's sheer force of will that caused everything. It was a display of power, not technology. The explosion was a coincidence. I came up with a cool adventure on what really happened a while back, and if nova.net ever gets going I may try to have that be part of the ongoing story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Chosen, It hink you need to pick somoen, and bug them.Say someone with good style,and a lot of time..Um that ia hard thing to come by...I think that Walker and Jager could do it...YOu just have to give them a push!Other people who may be good to help, would be Ashnod, James,E-chan,Vixen..and a few others. Each person has their own strong points, but I do not think anyone one preson should be put with the burden of it.As it is one thing to have someone run a game for a small group of players,that work as a team.It is another thing to say run 50 people.I think you can get soem ideas/help form dark aberant if it is still going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 I really wish it were that easy. I agree that all the people you mentioned could do wonders with it, and that it would need several people to accomplish my vision for it. I am just not going to go into it trying to persuade people into getting involved. If the right people come along and we can get it going, great, but I am not holding my breath on it. Dark Aberrant is a good game, and was used a a guideline to help set up To Be Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 the only flaw is that there is only one person behind the god seat.Not saying he is bad at it. but it means there can really only be one plot line.At least that is what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Ghost of Sandy Davis:YOu just have to give them a push!Ouch picks self up off the floor Didn't your mother tell you it was rude to push people. Thanks for the vote of confidence, it's good to know that the years I've spent avoiding hard work and responsibility have paid off with the due respect of my peers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 I did not push you.I simplely told Chosen, tha tyou only needed a pusht o get it into you head run that hing.So, bla.And you could run it, if you got off your rear end and did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 *Gets pushed and falls into the pool*Eh? Where did that come from!?!? >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agnelli Celeste Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Well, to stimulate the economy of people on this board, Chosen has made it his goal to make this site look spiffy,and what wouldn't look spiffy with a pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 Be glad it was the shallow end. I can't swim. >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 You mean you are without your push-up bra ... I mean flotation device!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Knight Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Hmmmm...Aberrants are promininent in Aberrant because there's an event (Mal's power useage) that tends the switch to go that way.Psions are prominent because the Proxies can dunk people and make 'em...Even forcing the switch on potential Novas/Aberrants.Inspired, both Dynamic and Psychic, are common because the Hammersmith incident was specific to neither.In any given time period without a "pull" to eiether side, either type of character is less common, but both exist, and Daredvils apparently always exist. When there is a greater tendency to one, the other will be even less common. Common sense, as they're coming essentially from the same stock.Mal cause worldwide erruptions. The Galatea was a byproduct, not a cause. Someone on the station errupted, with catastrophic results. Mal may have had a hand in the development (or not), but at his power level, he hardly needs a toy to enhance his scope.As for the rest...I think A! does a good job trying to reconcile the differences between Aberant and Trinity. Just my fifth a dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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