opnet [OpNet] Your game doesn't impress me

[Conduit]

Listen you FUCK! You better hope I don't find you.

You think your such a badass? Then come get me. If you're so tough then step up to the plate.

I hope hurting my parents makes you feel good about yourself, because you are going to need that confidence when you meet your maker.

Watch your back you piece of shit.

[kestrel404]

Conduit, what's happened?

A quick search of the news outlets hasn't turned up anything, so hopefully this isn't as bad as it sounds.

[Wakinyan]

Another attack on someone who frequents this websites friends/family?

Are they alright Conduit? What happened? Contact Neil Preston as soon as you can hopefully he can correct whatever was done. (Don't mean to speak for you Neil but I know you would want to help)

So campers is it time to call a huddle and try to figure out what is going on yet? Or do more pets and family have to be harmed or die? We have enough Quantum on here to take over a nation so let's do something before I am forced to come out of the basement.

[Sakurako Hino]

What the hell?

Okay, my paranoia level is officially at Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

Keep me appraised on what is going on Conduit. Please. I can take any flight I need to get to where you are if necessary.

[z-Carver]

Conduit, let me know if I can help in any way. After what you did for me in Chicago, it's the least that I can do. And Endeavor, my offer to you still stands.

Wakinyan - stay in the basement, please. We'd like to see you again someday.

Let me know if a pow-wow goes down - I'd be very interested in helping out.

[Fracture]

Paranoia, paranoia,

we'll get you, we'll get you.

We're cooking up a plot

we're cooking up a plot

against you...against you.

In a corner, in a corner

with a knife, with a knife,

no one's gonna get me

no one's gonna hurt me

I'm alright...I'm alright.

[Splitmind]

Almost makes me glad I don't have any friends or family to threaten. Almost.

But there's definitely something strange going on there. I mean, I don't know all of the comings and goings of the board, but aren't you (Conduit) and Endeavor pretty close? Is it possible that the two of you together wronged somebody? Taking a look at Endeavor's journal, I can already see one example of when the two of you "teamed up." Maybe there were other such times?

[Neil Preston]

Conduit, just let me know were they are at and I'm on it.

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Originally posted by Wakinyan:

(Don't mean to speak for you Neil but I know you would want to help)

Bro, that is what family is for.

[Hugin]

Ah.

[Jager]

There is a reason I seperate my private, semi-private, and public lives, people. This kind of crap is not new, and this is not the last time we will see its like, either.

[Conduit]

Thanks everybody, for the concern. Sorry I my message was so...short. My parents are as ok as they can be. They were fucked up pretty bad. Check any Tucson newspaper OpNet site for details.

Neil-I would appreciate it if you could help, as a favor. I'll send you some info.

Everybody else-Again thanks. I'll keep everybody in touch. There are two things about this that really get me. First, I just got back to town. I've been gone so long, maybe I shouldn't have left. But then I wouldn't have met so many of you. Second, I know who did this to my parents. I don't know if it's related to everything else that's going on, but I think I know who did it.

I better get back. I'll be in touch

[Sam Grey]

Well who was it, coppertop? That's the $64,000 question around here lately.

[Amped]

Seems like I have a new target.

[kestrel404]

Black Lotus, are you claiming responsibility, or saying you're hunting the perpetrator?

Just so we're clear on your motives.

[Amped]

I am in no way responsible for these acts, but if I find who is, I'm going to hang them with their own intestines.

[z-Carver]

Conduit - any word yet? How are your parents? Like I said - give me the word and I'll do what I can to help.

[Neil Preston]

They are better now, but we should deal with this attack as soon as possible. I relived those memories and ... well, some I've got some suffering I would like to return to the giver.

[Tommy Tomorrow]

That sounds very much like a man that believes kicking ass = solving problems. The vigilante has his or her place in the world. But that place is defined by a failure of society not as a feature of it.

[Conduit]

My parents are doing better now, thanks to Neil. I was able to cobble together some info about who did it. I think it has to do with Carver and that night in the alley.

I think it might be better if I left town and disassociated myself with my parents. It might be better for them in the long run.

[Neil Preston]

The saddest thing is when children are forced from their families and homes by outside forces. It absolutely sucks.

Mr. Micro, I meant what I said literally. I have these memories of what happened, from the victims' perspective, and I would like to return them to their creator.

[z-Carver]

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Originally posted by Conduit:
My parents are doing better now, thanks to Neil. I was able to cobble together some info about who did it. I think it has to do with Carver and that night in the alley.

I think it might be better if I left town and disassociated myself with my parents. It might be better for them in the long run.

Really? Oh, Conduit, I'm so sorry. Now you have to let me know if you need some help, particularly if you go after the person responsible.

[Tommy Tomorrow]

I have no doubt you were serious. How is it any different from Green War doing the same thing to drive the owners of fishing fleets mad?

[Edward]

People seem very angry. I've found that the best thing some of us can do is to find someone who has a true sense of vision, an ability to discern all the angles, and then listen to them.

Sometimes the best weapons don't aim themselves.

[Neil Preston]

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Originally posted by Tommy Micro:
I have no doubt you were serious. How is it any different from Green War doing the same thing to drive the owners of fishing fleets mad?

I never said I opposed that kind of thing, now did I? Btw, it was a whaling fleet, not a fishing fleet.
If you punish the world with trauma, why shouldn't you be responsible for it and get the precise fruits of your labor thrown back at you?
Investigation - Trial by Peers - Punishment

I have no delusions that I am justice all by myself. I will need to know the guilty party before I ever contemplate returning what they did. I do believe it should be done.

[kestrel404]

Quote:

Originally posted by Conduit:
I think it might be better if I left town and disassociated myself with my parents. It might be better for them in the long run.

Doesn't work. Actually, it encourages retributive strikes against your loved ones, because it lets your enemies know that it will hurt you.

Find somewhere safe for them. Or find them guardians. Or build them guardians. But dissassociation doesn't work.

[Wakinyan]

This situation happened to me very recently. (Knowing someone I cared for was being threatened with imminent harm.) They where trying to be used as leverage against me. The answer to this is very simple.

Make sure they know if they do kill those you care for you have nothing to lose and you will ensure they are dead and promise them you will wipe their seed from this Earth. Once they understand what they are about to unleash the smart ones back down. Those who remain are mad dogs anyway who simply need to be put down.

[Tommy Tomorrow]

Quote:

Originally posted by Neil Preston:
I never said I opposed that kind of thing, now did I?

No. You didn't.

[Tommy Tomorrow]

Quote:

Originally posted by Wakinyan:
Once they understand what they are about to unleash the smart ones back down. Those who remain are mad dogs anyway who simply need to be put down.

This assumes a hostage taker would see you as a credible threat but then again the only point of taking a hostage is to cause harm. So your philosophy comes down to conveying to the hostage taker that you don't care about anyone more than you'd care about hurting them up for daring to use a hostage against you.

Now take this the ultimate logical conclusion.

[Sam Grey]

Don't forget hostage takers that can't really be hurt... or the real psychos who don't care what you might do.

[Tommy Tomorrow]

Quote:

Originally posted by Sam Grey:
Don't forget hostage takers that can't really be hurt... or the real psychos who don't care what you might do.

Wakinyan covered the crazies although he forgot a group. Those too stupid or too distracted by their own hoped for outcomes to figure out his philosophy.

[Conduit]

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Originally posted by Alchemist:

Quote:

Originally posted by Conduit:
I think it might be better if I left town and disassociated myself with my parents. It might be better for them in the long run.

Doesn't work. Actually, it encourages retributive strikes against your loved ones, because it lets your enemies know that it will hurt you.

Find somewhere safe for them. Or find them guardians. Or build them guardians. But dissassociation doesn't work.

I suppose you're right. I'm kinda grasping at straws right now. I guess I'll have to find a way to keep them safe. I've been working on making myself more marketable, maybe now is the time to initiate all of my plans. Then I can make some money and set them up somewhere safe.