Y.T. Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 You do not need to be as good as those who are around you. You Do not need to come from nothing and become the best. You need to learn what you are are, and what you aren't before you try to be become more than what you are. You need to look at what you have. What you want. What you need. What you have is not always what you want, and what you want is not always what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Thank you, Captain Obvious."I don't care it's all psychobabble rap to me..." -- Alan Parsons Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Madre de Dios!I don't know what's worse: Elites destroying my restaurant or Elites telling me how I should handle my fucking eruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Exile, you are a drama queen and you are not the only new nova in the world. Hell your eruption and life as nova is not the worse I know of. You got off easy compared to some.Now take that bottle out of your mouth and stand up for yourself, take the help that has been offered to you or shut the fuck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 At least I say it as it is, instead of pretending to be some kind of psuedo-philosopher.I have no reason to trust neither nova nor baseline, and I don't pretend to.So sue me if you don't like what I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 No, you blind yourself by your own hate. You want to trust someone you trust them. You don't want to, you don't. IF novas as a whole were like they were that night there would be no cities left, but you are blinded by your hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I change my previous words:I don't know what is worse - Elites who trash my restaurant, Elites who tell me how to handle my fucking eruption, or Elites who pretend to be fucking philosophers.Don't fucking tell me others have it worse than me, and that I should fucking trust people when I have relied on me for my entire life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Oh, and this is what we say in Spain about people like you:Me parece que la vena de la lengua pasa por tu culo porque hablas mucha mierda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Anna you silly, silly girl. You have no idea who I am and what I has happened to me. Maybe you would like to visit my grave? I was dead for over three weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Carver Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Leave her alone. She doesn't need you picking on her. Obviously, you weren't really dead, otherwise you wouldn't be here. But even if you were really dead, that hardly gives you the right to pick on Exile.She's entitled to her own opinion. Can't you see how insulting your words are to her? "What you have is not always what you want, and what you want is not always what you need." She has neither her wants or her needs, and you're being cruel to tell her that.Leave her alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Her wants stop her from getting what she needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Veta a la verga, Y.T.You don't know shit about me, vos puta pendeja, and how the fuck do you stay dead for three weeks? You dead for three weeks, you start to stink pretty bad.I was stuck under the collapsed roof of my restaurant for four fucking days, and you tell me that others have had worse eruptions? I still shit myself at being in tight, dark places, and I will never walk right again.Cuando monos vuelven de mi culo you will understand what I went through, cabrona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarjei 'Nemesis' Sigurdardottir Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Was restaurant in Ibiza? If La Brasa then apology muchly. Not throw car but, how American say, "duck". Little boys from Uncle Utopia try to play so could not stay to help. Is good you live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 For the love of Bast....Amateur psychotherapy is only slightly less dangerous than amateur neurosurgery. You're apparently talented at killing people, Y.T., but you're sure as hell not a professional brain-twiddler of either sort.As for your philosophical musings...to be honest, they fall into the same range as baseline pop-psyche taglines. "Be true to yourself;" "Find your own horizons;" etc. You aren't telling anyone anything that isn't already plastered all over kindergarten walls.I repeat: thank you, Captain Obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Exile, your restaurant was one of the the good ones as I recall, I know you've received several offers for help and aid already, so I'll leave that unsaid. If you'd like to just talk, I am available. Ibiza was rough on many of us that were there, unfortunately, they haven't allowed any of us that were there back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 As YT is exemplifying, some of us die inside and never recover. Maybe she never had that humane spark, maybe she lost it in the grave, and maybe she left it some place when she found it to be an inconvenient burden on her chosen path.Exile, let some of us help you. Life should be more than suffering and the agony of a transformed existance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Anna 'Exile' Alameda: You don't know shit about me, vos puta pendeja, and how the fuck do you stay dead for three weeks? You dead for three weeks, you start to stink pretty bad.I was stuck under the collapsed roof of my restaurant for four fucking days, and you tell me that others have had worse eruptions? I still shit myself at being in tight, dark places, and I will never walk right again.Well, a lot of decomposition happens do to your from the way your blood act, remove a few pints of it and you would be a amazed what the body does. Still, I would say that refrigeration also helped. Siberia is not know for it's heat. I was there for two weeks. Well, more like 2 months but the first month and half were spent inside. I spent some time back in the states in a morgue and then about three days in a box.As for your eruption. Great you feel that you are cheated. How about now looking at those that are just dead. You can get better. Things can improve for you.So you want to have empathy from those around you? That's human. You are scared of being hurt again. That is also human. You blame the masses because what a few did. Still something that is human. So you can take your life as it and not take any risk by trusting those who have offered help or you can do what you are doing now. Either is fine by me, just stop your whining and take what the world has for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Quote:Anna 'Exile' Alameda:I was stuck under the collapsed roof of my restaurant for four fucking days, and you tell me that others have had worse eruptions?Much, much, worse. [Link to Picture of Sloppy Joe]If you haven't already, you should see a nova healer about your injuries, it might help. It might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Ms. Alameda, I am a healer. At this time I have been invited to NOT come to Spain for the time being, but if you can get transport to some other spot, I will do my utmost to get to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I'm not going to argue with you any more, cabrona. You are full of shit.You got a point, Senor Troll. I could be Sloppy Joe. Gracias for reminding me.Somebody know a cheap place where I can get a shower? I am not going to the Rashoud clinic. Not after all the things I heard about them.Gracias for help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarjei 'Nemesis' Sigurdardottir Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Warm food. Hot shower. Clean clothes. Is all small thing but important for making of happy. Barieri International Hotel in Madrid. Cost euro 16 by day. Include linen and food breakfast. Is place nice. Stay there year last when want not go to Haig.Take shower before 5 or hot water gone. Is not mind company in bathroom also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Quote:Anna 'Exile' Alameda:I am not going to the Rashoud clinic.You should. Even if you don't buy the party line they do good stuff and they will let you walk away. If nothing else it's a good place to get job offers and attract recruiters from the other groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Anna 'Exile' Alameda: I'm not going to argue with you any more, cabrona. You are full of shit. No you are a child. You are letting others run you life. You are letting your one bad week fuck up your life. You want to get off the streets, do I don't know Utopia Devries, some random nova, most governments, nearly any power broker or any of the say the fortune 500s or hell the top 1,000s and say I'll work for you and make your terms known. You get off the streets within the end of the day, but that is ask for too much form you. Cause you might have to trust someone else. You little fucktard have the power to whatever the fuck you want, and that seems to be whining and parade around this board in your own self pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Cabrona, you are so full of shit that every vein in your body must run through your anus. You don't fucking get it, and you never will, you want-to-be philosopher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandcaster Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 People, settle down; this has been blown way out of proportion. Please, think about what you post, and if it is something you would like to have addressed to you. And if nothing else: if you cannot behave and post here like adults, kindly take it to private messaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarjei 'Nemesis' Sigurdardottir Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Can you make these nova fetch for you too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna 'Quanta' Alameda Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Muy divertido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Rat Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I've been dead for ten years. I have been dead in the bottom of a bottle for a decade while on the streets. Inhumanity killed my soul and I filled it with alcohol.,,Now as a Nova, I can't kill that death with alcohol anymore, and see the truth about humanity. I realize that goodness doesn't exist in the soul of man, for they put novas to death in their wars, while they slaughter one another every day. Still, my mind is filled with the victims of humanity and they stare back at me with blank, unblinking eyes and, and.......No,nooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 White Rat, if you look for evil, you will find it. If you refuse to see the good, you will definitely miss it.You were in pain. You are still in pain. The difference is that now you have the power to act on your perceptions.FYI, the leading cause of nova death is another nova. Don't assume novas are being led like sheep into slaughter. The sad truth is that they exactly what they are doing. If they can't use baseline causes as an excuse, they will find another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Rat Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Evil and good are concepts of human morality. However, I do concede to your point. It is not that I search for evil, but that evil was thrust upon me and, like a parasite, has fed upon my mind. I don't even know if I understand "goodness" anymore, or of what benefit it serves. Someday, maybe, that might change.Are you in pain? Do you know what it is like to live in pain? What would you do with that power if pain was all you remembered or understood.?,,It is not so much that nova deaths disturb me. What bothers me is that they are dying for monkeys. If two novas want to duel to the death, for their own reasons or ideals, that is their decision. I just resent that they die for such human concepts as nations, religions and laws.There are some novas that I would not mind purging from our ranks. I think they make nova-kind look weak and "human". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Currently in pain ... no.Have I had to live with a pain that seemed like it would never go away? Yes. Yes I have. I had to want to get better before anything happened.If two novas want to duel to the death, what does it matter why?As for the purging ... refer to the sentence above. You have found the religion/nation/law you are willing to kill for. Congrats, but why is your cause any better than anyone else's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Rat, watch out for the hole. You're close to it, if you're not already in it deep.The hole is called: Forsaking Humanity "Just Because".The last bit of humanity any Nova purges from him/herself will be the bad parts, and I don't know of any that have managed that yet. I trust you're cynical enough to agree with me. If they wern't dying for humans, they'd be dying for Novas with the same motivations.Focusing too much on the humans and defining yourself, and other Novas according to them has to be one of the worst possible ways to get anywhere with your Node. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Rat Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Bic, I have forsaken humanity because I have witnessed humanity destroy its own children. "Humanity" destroyed my soul. There may come a time when we as novas may be forced to confront man's humanity as they seek to apply it to us.As Divis Mal said in the Null Manifesto: "...Regulations and laws enacted for the good of Homo sapiens are too easily subverted and misinterpreted to abuse the rights of novas, who are required by destiny to attain their full potential - a goal impossible while abiding by strictures set by beings who are not one's peers and who cannot accurately judge what is "ethical" or "moral" for anything other than their own species." I would agree.Jager, I used "purging" to illustrate that I too have no compunction in killing another nova, should I feel it justified. Some novas may choose to take care of their pets, so being a baseline-phile is not enough to warrant such a sentence. Those who do deserve such a fate, are those novas who actively work, as agents of baselines, against my rights as an individual nova, in order to impose human morality on me. Aspects of humanity I follow will be of my own choosing, not theirs, nova or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Mr. Rat, if you want to live a life free of baseline morality and ethics, please avoid living in conjunction with baseline society as well. Do not seek to impose your vision upon a society you do not wish to be a part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnod Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Preston: Mr. Rat, if you want to live a life free of baseline morality and ethics, please avoid living in conjunction with baseline society as well. Do not seek to impose your vision upon a society you do not wish to be a part of. From the moment of our eruption, their vision is imposed upon us. If we do not agree or submit to it, we are told to leave it. It is convenient that you give the option of assimilation or exile, but never the option of changing the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Ms. Ashnod, no one has suggested any changes to the system except to violate it as they see fit without any social responsibility or remorse. Forcing humanity to live at our whims is no better than having humanity cage us within their own perception of what we should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnod Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Yet you seem completely at ease with remaining under humanity's perception...intriguing.Hmmm. No one has suggested change, Mr. Preston? The only suggestions have been those encouraging violations? I find it hard to believe that you would say that. Suggestions have been made. One of our own posters here is doing that as we speak. Whether or not you agree with her or any of the others is not the point. It is that you never conceed that changing the system can or should occur as a third option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Your perceptions of what I feel are not relevant. I do what I do for my own reasons.Ashnod, no one has suggested change that is positive for novas. Self responsibility is the road to bloodshed and sorrow. If the sum total of the suggestions remain the Null Manifesto, we are going nowhere.If all you can suggest is that the old system has no value, so scrap it we are heading to that place were we each have our fingers on each other's throats.I listen to all proposals out there. I reason them through and look for the positive. I am still looking for the one that has a prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted September 12, 2005 Author Share Posted September 12, 2005 Yet, we have seen systems change. We have sen systems that used to have kings that were Gods.Then Kings that were chosen by the Gods. Then bloodlines chosen by God. Now people choose at least on some level who leads them.Systems have been scrapped and systems been made.Some are better some are worse.Don't be foolish enough to think we have the best one you can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 YT, please read what I have said once more. I know that positive improvements and even new systems could exist. Anarchy is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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