Ally Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Get your attention with that header? Good! First off I will say this. I love Utopia. I think they have done great things. Like any large organization they have made some mistakes but come on look at all the good they have done and continue to do! Enough of that however promoting Utopia isn't why I am here. I am here to say you do not need to be a T2Mer or Utopian to make a difference. Think of all you can do around you! How rewarding it can be. I know there are a lot of you who contribute every day and I say great job! But come on all of us could do a little something every single day. Heck just get a cat out a tree if that is all you feel like! I think we all as Novas need to adopt a motto of "Do a good deed daily." If we did so it wouldn't matter if we are human or not (for those of you who argue it) because we will all get along better with the world at large. So get out there and help that little old lady across the street or save that bus full of children from going over the bridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 My, how heroic of you. Very gung ho. I salute your enthusiasm.Just remember what the road to hell is paved with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Crow Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Alchemist:Just remember what the road to hell is paved with. Mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 No, that's the road to heck. For true evil, you need grand vision.Or complete apathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 2, 2005 Author Share Posted August 2, 2005 Is Pessimism an aberration for Novas on here or something? Since I posted an hour or so ago I have resolved a hostage situation without bloodshed. Stopped four car accidents and plowed a field. What have you done lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Found a way to clean up some nova's graffiti (no, not you), developed a new kind of armor for a team of city defenders, re-built the foundation of a historic landmark, and gave a speech on the preservation of our past to a bunch of civil engineers on a college field trip.And that was just this morning.I'm not saying what you're doing isn't good. I'm just saying don't do it without considdering the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Ally, I think your heart is in the right place but a good deed is not something we can agree on. I do a good deed by killing people. I remove those who would kill,oppress or exploit others.I could go back a 80 years and see my great grand father protecting people by putting people into interment camps. His Grand father marched women and children across the great plains. They both were doing good deeds. They both were protecting people.I understand that I am not a hero, and that I kill mothers,sons, sisters, fathers, daughters, brothers and friends. I do what I do, because if it wasn't me,it would be someone else,and they would do worse job.Then again if you believe you can make a world a better place, by all means do so. By all means take actions into your own hands. i just hope you do not burn out and become what you fear the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Quote:What have you done lately?Finally mastered making an authentic teriyaki sauce from scratch...and visited an alternate world where one can find some really tasty wild game birds about the size of a Buick. The combination of the two will hopefully make Long full and happy by the end of dinner.Sorry, Ally, but some of us simply want to live our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 2, 2005 Author Share Posted August 2, 2005 Well I know some of you are trying at least. It's all that could be asked. And their is no need to weigh the consequences. In your heart you will always know what is the right thing to do and no amount of selfish self interest or taint can ever truly destroy or hide it. All you have to do is listen.Timeslip sometimes simply being who we are means we owe something to someone other than ourselves. Keep in mind even Terats are allowed to do good deeds. At least I think so, I'll have to ask someone for a handbook and check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eris Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Timeslip: Finally mastered making an authentic teriyaki sauce from scratch...and visited an alternate world where one can find some really tasty wild game birds about the size of a Buick. Oohhhh that sounds yummy Mrs. Long! Is it possible that I could purchase some from you? Pulling animals from other dimensions sounds so interesting! Who knows what wonderful little things could come along with it! Doesn't matter though, still sounds super tasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 2, 2005 Author Share Posted August 2, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Y.T.: I do a good deed by killing people.I do not agree with this Y.T. and I never will. We should NEVER kill. There is never a place for it. We might have to punch some misguided Nova through a wall but we should always be able to end a violent situation without the loss of life. I know many of you are former or current Elites here and I want you all to understand there is ALWAYS a better way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Sometimes Ally, Death and violence are all some understand. In the end it's the only thing they ever accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 2, 2005 Author Share Posted August 2, 2005 You might be right Long some people might only understand that. Luckly there is now someone like me who is now able to put a stop to it. Nathan Hale said, "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country. " I on the other hand have a infinite amount of lives to give to my world and I willingly give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Grey Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Damn, buddy, you sound just like those Saturday morning serials I saw as a kid. Have fun fighting the Never Ending Battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Ally, that is is your place to disagree with me. That is in fact what I was trying to prove, your good and my good are not the same. Is killing pure and clean? no. Is it better to kill one person if killing that person would save ten lives? That is an moral call. Those moral calls make us who we are. They are what removes us from animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Eris -- If you want to swing by some evening to join us for dinner, I'll see what I can whip up for you, but I'd like to avoid getting into the business of selling game birds (or anything else) from alternate worlds.Ally -- Infinite number of lives...? You come back from the dead? Regenerate at some ridiculous rate that might as well be coming back from the dead? Pop off a bajillion clones to do your bidding? Have a really unusual definition of "lives"? Bring in your alternate selves from parallel worlds (and sacrifice them)? Color me intrigued (if only morbidly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 2, 2005 Author Share Posted August 2, 2005 Much like Mr. Digigeist I never truly go down for the count. If nothing else I will just come back with reinforcements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Glad to hear you are doing something you like, Ally, with the added bonus its not destructive to society as a whole.I'm curious to know what brought this on? For that matter, have you yet been confronted with a problem were the use of lethal force was even considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 2, 2005 Author Share Posted August 2, 2005 Well to be honest I have luckily have yet to run into another Nova I needed to become violent with. And most Baseline folks don't have what it takes to hurt me so I can end things without anyone getting hurt. As for what brought this on? Ibiza of course was big reason. It hurts to see such rampant disregard for life. This has been brewing within me for a very long time. I figured it was time to stand up for what I believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I think you hit the nail right on the head Long."If somebody trys to kill you, you try to kill them right back." ~Noir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 "And their is no need to weigh the consequences."Unless you weild nigh-unlimited power, the kind of power that shapes the path of events in the world. Unless you can do more harm in an instant of misunderstanding than a normal man could do in a lifetime of malice. Unless you feel the need to take justice into your own hands. Unless you have a conscience.Then you have need to weigh the consequences of your actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 No offense meant to you Alchemist as obviously your node has given you a very mighty mind. However I truly believe you are over thinking the situation. You need to decide with your heart and instincts and they will not fail you. And if your actions cause something bad to happen further down the line you do what is right once again and fix it. As of now I consider myself a helpful citizen hardly a vigilante. I do not judge the people who I stop I simply aid the police in capturing them. Or do my civic duty to stop a acccident from taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeno Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Does anyone else take great satisfaction in The System at hand? Each individual comprises a set of catabolic and anabolic elements, contributing to the function of the whole....The extremes ("heroic do-gooders", "murderous psychopaths", etc.) are of particular interest. Outliers are often fault-inducers in analogous systems. Here, though, outliers are distributed to generate minimal perturbation of the mean....The System is probably not predicated on self-awareness (The System is probably imaginary). A good deed, thus, remains that which we would have done for us in a reversal of conditions. This axiom is critical, and its pursuit fully endorsed....Not that endorsement is required or highly relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Ally, I am sincerely heartened to see another person arrive here who has the best interests of the world at heart. Thank you, I appreciate that you bring such a bright and shining light to this dark corner of the OpNet where cynicism and jaded disinterest seem paramount.I do my best to improve the world every chance I get. I hope we can be friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Crow Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Alchemist: No, that's the road to heck. For true evil, you need grand vision.Yes. Yes of course. We can agree on this but not exclusively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Edward: I appreciate that you bring such a bright and shining light to this dark corner of the OpNet where cynicism and jaded disinterest seem paramount.Hey!!! I've been doing my little bit to make life better all around for some time now. Yes, I think life is harsh, but that doesn't mean we can't make it a whole lot better.Quote:Originally posted by Edward:I do my best to improve the world every chance I get. I hope we can be friends. Oh ... I would really, really like to record this meeting for posterity, if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Ally, who made you God? Really I want to know. Did a voice upon high tell you what the world needs? I am a nova and I didn't get no words with God, nor a higher power. I wasn't told what to do. I am just as confused as what I should do as I was last year. Fuck if I know what the world needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Bailey Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Oddly enough, Ally is doing something that is encouraged by good samaritan statutes. According to many states, if Ally sees an incident where his abilities can be used to reduce or prevent property damage or injury then he has a duty to the property owners or the people in danger. If he consciously decides not to act then he could risk being sued by those injured. Of course, if he interferes and makes a bigger mess then he is just as liable for that too. Obviously, this would apply to any of us in the same situation. Whether or not said nova would respect the system is an entirely different matter.Keep up the good work, Ally. Just don't make things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Ally, thanks for the answer btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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