opnet [OpNet] Back. And not happy.

[DigiGeist]

Well well well. Just got back from finally re-wiring half of Ibiza and what do I see? No one that has learned the lesson.

We got people thinking this is the first little battle in this "war" that some want, and others slinking away in shame...

Me, I'm right out in the open when I say this. Ibiza was a damn shame, and some heads should roll for this. Those around and within this whole slaughter should be hung by their feet, for the entire world to see.

Thank god some of you guys did think of others before yourselves. But it sems those that are, are few and far between.

I kept lines up for humanitarian and medical efforts up with my braincells for HOURS afterward. Thanks to someone leaving some field devices there. Think of how hard it is playing switchboard for just 10 people at an almost simultaneous rate. Now multiply that by an exponent of 100.

But those on the ground that helped, my hat is off to ya. That's why I hooked up with the WCK. To actualy do some good in this fragged-up world.

Now... I gotta relax.

Past my rants, what did I miss? I really don't feel like digging with search daemons for threads on other news bits.

[Smokin' Joe]

Who owns the heads you were thinking of nominating for rolling?

I look around and I see novas reflecting the world back on itself. Its the power of myth. The ones that don't are spooky but I've only met two like that. Same night. Same rave. Both gave off a chill like predators.

[DigiGeist]

Quite frankly, I'm yet to find those heads. But I'm keeping my sword extra sharp.

And what is this power of myth bullcrap you're feeding me?

All I see is a bunch of children finding excuses for their behavior that is, by it's mere mention, completely bunk.

Simply put I'm starting to see some very disturbing crap from some Novas. Scary, Repulsive, Abnormal behavior.

It's like a looney bin.

[Sakurako Hino]

Digi, Thanks for all of your assistance.

You kept all lines up for communication that you could. My god, you were amazing. I'm glad I was of some help on the ground. I noticed you routed alot of communications through my router pack. Interesting strategy for emergency communication management to say the least.

I'll keep such things in mind.

Oh, and absolutely thank you for spotting that one kid in the rubble. She wouldn't have lasted very long without your eyes.

Although I share your anger with what happened, I doubt it would be properly placed in a blaze of righteous fury.

[Smokin' Joe]

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Originally posted by Samuel 'DigiGeist' Davison:
And what is this power of myth bullcrap you're feeding me?

This coming from a man just after he says he keeps his sword sharp is funny.

Say hi to Doctor Tar and Professor Feather for me.

[kestrel404]

Actually, it's a real sword. I've seen it. I keep telling him it's silly, but does he listen to me? Nope.

[Smokin' Joe]

A real sword.

Isn't that special.

[Sam Grey]

You'd think the kid would carry a fucking gun, but nooo....

[Smokin' Joe]

Yeah. If he's going to carry a concealed weapon he might as well go all the way. Its not like the cops are going to cut him bunches of slack for carrying a big knife instead of a shotgun. Maybe he's just a really bad shot. Or near sighted but I've never heard of a nova needing glasses before.

[Gerald Haney]

You know, maybe we just spend too much time pretending that only we can save the world and that only we have the answers.

Maybe we just need to chill out for a bit and relax.

[DigiGeist]

Hah. You haven't seen me operate. I don't need a gun. By the time the tensors in his index fingers flex, I've already chopped off his arm, after moving in from oh... 50 feet.

But, before you get any ideas, I don't take my sword around with me everywhere. Only when I KNOW I'm going to be getting into it.

Besides, a sword is much more fun. Not to mention, and I have to admit, swords are far more sporting in a duel than a gun. The outcome is far more... obvious.

Alchemist, you just haven't seen me in a situation where I can do some damage, that's all. Not that I want to, though. Only when it's necessary.

And by the way, kids, I do have guns. 2 of them actually. If you want I can tell you the make and model, manufacturer, hell, even the preferred ammo. I am licenced for them as well. Fully. Don't ask how. Might get you in more trouble than me, since I won't tell you, and those that would also know don't want to either.

Not that I carry those puppies with me either.

I'd rather bust someone's face if they get out of line. With my bare hands. Then they learn. Because they aren't dead. Hurting, yes. Dead? Only wishing it were so.

[Smokin' Joe]

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
You know, maybe we just spend too much time pretending that only we can save the world and that only we have the answers.

I'm not trying to save the world. I spend more time looking for answers not giving them out.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
You know, maybe we just spend too much time pretending that only we can save the world and that only we have the answers.

Strange words coming from an Utopian ... but not surprising coming from you. ::sigh::

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
Maybe we just need to chill out for a bit and relax.

You and Tarot seem to be doing that just fine. Let the rest of us know how that goes.

[Dreamer]

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Originally posted by Samuel 'DigiGeist' Davison:


Besides, a sword is much more fun. Not to mention, and I have to admit, swords are far more sporting in a duel than a gun. The outcome is far more... obvious.

Alchemist, you just haven't seen me in a situation where I can do some damage, that's all. Not that I want to, though. Only when it's necessary.

...

I'd rather bust someone's face if they get out of line. With my bare hands. Then they learn. Because they aren't dead. Hurting, yes. Dead? Only wishing it were so.

And the People Vrs Samuel 'DigiGeist' Davison

"We know that this man enjoys his work and goes out of his way to see the eyes of his victims. He has openly said so in the past"

Really, a smart move, telling the whole world that you enjoy killing people. Just one warning. Stay the fuck out of California.

[Timeslip]

Criminy in a bucket, Dreamer. Read Digi's post again...but this time, spend a buck-and-a-quarter first on some New and Improved Reading Comprehension Lenses. He made it clear that (1) he doesn't enjoy doing damage to people and (2) he prefers a hand-to-hand approach that at least gives him a non-lethal option.

[Dreamer]

Oh I can see where you would miss the part where the sporting and fun. No hints at pleasure at all. None. It is just something he has to do, cause it's the lesser evil. The fact he latter said he doesn't like doing it, is rather funny. It means that he is not telling the truth in at least one way.

He either likes killing people or he doesn't. I honestly can't care if his liking to disliking killing is the truth. I can't trust him either way. So I take the logical path, and tell the admitted killer to stay away from me and those I care for.

[Timeslip]

Have you never heard of black humor, Dreamer? Cripes. To quote Edward Flaherty: you couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance.

[Smokin' Joe]

The really strange thing is this... I have less problem understanding this "Dreamer" and their thoughts on this, than I do with understanding the motives of the pointy eared guy carrying a sword.

[Dreamer]

Some people aren't the type that can make those jokes. He is not in a place that let's him make those jokes. He can wind up in places that have even less of a sense of humor than I do.

With that one joke I am somewhat shocked that people aren't banging down his door with law suits over wrongful deaths. This is not a comic book timeslip. What happens to a white cop if he said even as joke, it is sure fun killing niggers. Do you think many people would laugh? So why should I laugh at this killer's joke? Is it because he didn't use a racial slur?

So yes with that one joke he opens up every time he used lethal force. Did he really have to? Did he really have the right to? I am sorry if you forget what legal rights mean. But in U.S.A. We have the right to live, and taking that right away from anyone is never to taken lightly. Killing is not something you just do, and hope people will forgive you, and rights aren't just for those of us with nodes.

[Jager]

Smokin' Joe, since I have some experience with weapons and mindsets, maybe I can help.

When you take a hand weapon into a situation were you will be facing firearms, you develop an extra level of caution.

Digi, pre-sword-wielding, carried a gun and got shot a great deal.

If you want to use the sword, you need to develop that extra level of caution. I don't see Digi charging across an open plain. I see him developing that extra caution and profiting from the approach.

From the strict approach of weaponry, you are far less likely to kill someone with a firearm than you are a hand weapon. Likewise, you are less likely to kill someone accidently, or hit the wrong person.

There is also the consideration of focus. While there is a Way of the Gun, it is a newer form with less tradition and fewer written sources exist to assist you. The Way of the Sword exists in a variety of societies, with a great deal of variations. It is still a means of mental and philosophical exploration for many weapon enthusiasts.

[Gerald Haney]

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Originally posted by Jager:

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
You know, maybe we just spend too much time pretending that only we can save the world and that only we have the answers.

Strange words coming from an Utopian ... but not surprising coming from you. ::sigh::

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
Maybe we just need to chill out for a bit and relax.

You and Tarot seem to be doing that just fine. Let the rest of us know how that goes.

I take it back, you are not an asshole. I just figured it out, somehow you manage to channel a either a hardened and cynical CIA agent that just lives to make sure that people realize their problems are meaningless compared to the greater truths you hold or a 15 year old privileged girl who thinks that snide little comments like that make you clever.

Have fun with that.

[Gerald Haney]

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Originally posted by Smokin' Joe:

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
You know, maybe we just spend too much time pretending that only we can save the world and that only we have the answers.

I'm not trying to save the world. I spend more time looking for answers not giving them out.

That was kind of a universal "we" there Joe. Utopia, the Terats in their own way, those guys who call themselves Aberrants, all of it seems to be a kind of "The World needs saving and I am the only one who knows how".

It's just with the power that we hold as individuals we seem a bit more prone to causing problems than fixing them. For a long time that's why I actually thought it was best that we Utopians got most of our orders from baselines. They're used to dealing with limitations. When you really got to work on a problem instead of just being able to leap into action I think maybe you take a better long view.

Heck, I dunno. All I do know is maybe we're all moving too fast.

[Timeslip]

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Originally posted by Dreamer:
vast quantities of self-righteous crap

No shit that it's not a comic book, Dreamer. But guess what? If you don't have some kind of humor -- even in the middle of the worst of it -- it isn't long before you burn out...or crack. Digi's comments were pretty fucking clearly meant to be a mixture of various forms of dark humor, blended in a careful cocktail with equal parts irony and sarcasm.

The point of his post when taken in context -- and yeah, I know, taking things in context isn't one of your strong points -- is that he doesn't much like violence, but that he understands that it is occasionally necessary and prefers to use methods that don't involve spraying bullets or lighting bolts or what-the-fuck-have-you all over the place. If he has to do violence, he prefers to use a method that is surgical enough to take away the threat in a minimalistic fashion. In other words, you pontificating peabrain, he's doing exactly what you claim to want novas to do.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
I take it back, you are not an asshole. I just figured it out, somehow you manage to channel a either a hardened and cynical CIA agent that just lives to make sure that people realize their problems are meaningless compared to the greater truths you hold or a 15 year old privileged girl who thinks that snide little comments like that make you clever.

Have fun with that.

Never said your problems were meaningless, but suddenly Utopia isn't all fun and games, and an easy paycheck for you and NOW your getting all philisophical?
I have a lot of respect for the people who do the day to day thing, working the thankless jobs that make the world tick, and the like. Doing the spectacular is easy, while doing the soul-draining tedium is hard work. Moreso when you are a nova, I think.

I like the little girl thing, but no, I'm not channeling. I am remembering what Ibiza was like at sunset on that day, and what it looked like at sunrise the next morning after spending the whole night on the island.
I didn't pop out to some safe haven, or jump to the Amazon. I stayed and did what I could. I didn't live in a world were everyone was partying, laughing, and forgetting the world outside because I knew alot about the world they were trying to forget.

You served how many novas how many drinks? Did you ever consider how many of them were killers? How many of them angry with the world the way they saw it?
I guess not.

You seem to have been totally floored by the sudden reality of power we wield and what that can mean for the world at large.
I am actually sorry about that.
I have realized for a long time how much power we novas wield, and how thin that line between civility and carnage really is.
I guess that is the wall that Tarot is speaking about, though he has never had to face up to it. It is probably a good thing he ran away.

[Tarot]

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Originally posted by Gerald Haney:
Have fun with that.

Way to go, Dude!

Like it says in Karma For Dummies; if you refuse to feed the forces of negativism and entrophy, they will inevitably turn back on themselves, continuing to consume until reduced to maya. Which is also a nice way of saying fuck 'em without upsetting those with delicate ears.

See you at the hotel. I got some fun planned. There's work afterwards but the fun is where you make it anyway.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Tarot:
... if you refuse to feed the forces of negativism and entrophy, they will inevitably turn back on themselves, continuing to consume until reduced to maya.

True enough. A life without balance is self-defeating.

[DigiGeist]

Hhahaahah.....

This is to laugh Come on man...

This has gone past me being able to retort here. Look, I'd rather bring some guy in than take him out. Thing is, if he entends to snuff out my light, I'm gonna make damn sure I'm ready to stop him.

Understand that?

Next, about things being "sporting"... Quite frankly, I hate guns. I hate carrying my two little friends. They're more trouble than their worth. Then you got my sword, which isn't exactly goodot have when trying to negotiate.

So, I have what I was born with. My two fists and my two feet. Much more sporting, and less likelyhood of killing someone. Well... with someone of my training and knowledge. Most people, who can move like I do, would probably kill in one blow from the sheer velocity. I've learned to mitigate that when it is preferrible to keep my quarry alive.

Trust me, when I speak of Quarry, it's not a predator/prey relationship. It's more of the Law/Criminal aspect of it all.

And people like me sometimes have walked that little / I put in seperating the two.

[Gerald Haney]

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Originally posted by Tarot:
Way to go, Dude!

Like it says in Karma For Dummies; if you refuse to feed the forces of negativism and entrophy, they will inevitably turn back on themselves, continuing to consume until reduced to maya. Which is also a nice way of saying fuck 'em without upsetting those with delicate ears.

Hey, just because I'm not taking notes when you're ranting doesn't mean I wasn't listening. But I was paying attention on the whole "dealing with egotistical weenies" thing. And I know, I know, those weren't your words. But if I used your language my mother would weep.