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[OpNet] Empathy, Punishment and Eating Habits.


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As one of our recent arrivals has pointed out our thread divergences can be rude so I take this subject here.

Jager, I am not a politician, a policeman or a social crusader. These are vocations that require certain specific attitudes and personalities. What I am is a man that is willing to act directly when presented with horror and evil. That is who I am and I accept that. I cannot be Preston, Mother Teresa or Gandhi, I don't have it in me. Neither do you from what I've seen and heard, so why do you apply these expectations to me?

As for eating him, when I...change I take on different features and form. It isn't so much cannabilism as an effective way to cause pain, punishment and dispose of a body.

As for living in baseline society? I do. Every day. Since my cure I haven't interacted with but one other nova. All of my friends and companions are baselines with that one exception. How many of us could say the same?

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Once upon a time, Cull acted out on his own impulses, for whatever reason. Now, Edward acts out on other people's impulses. Its just the way it is.

You are not a part of baseline society any more than a mockingbird young in a thrush's nest is a thrush. You are a predator who is acting out his predatory instincts on unsuspecting co-habitants. You have yet to reveal anything to me that leads me to believe you are a part of them.

One can be alone in a crowded room.

As for me-

Yeah, I live a different life and I don't delude myself in thinking I don't. I live with baselines, interact with them and even call a good number of them friend. I am not them. I am not a part of their social order. Some of them, in the past, have been a part of mine.

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Originally posted by Smokin' Joe:
How can you be so sure about anything you just said? Is it all from what you know about this Cull?
Take it from me, Joe, there's some real scary shit out there. Even if what they say about this guy isn't true the world of organized crime has a few tricks up its sleeves that's even worse. Think bigger. Think smellier.

By the way: I like the name.
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For all of the Megasyndicate's faults, they do keep a lot of Russians fed. I have no quarrels with them beyond child prostitution and pornography.

At least with organised crime things are... less messy in a way. You know who to speak to when things are going wrong and who to blame if something happens.

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Originally posted by Irini Mikhailova:
For all of the Megasyndicate's faults, they do keep a lot of Russians fed. I have no quarrels with them beyond child prostitution and pornography.

At least with organised crime things are... less messy in a way. You know who to speak to when things are going wrong and who to blame if something happens.
I've actually dealt very little with what could be called a "Megasyndicate". My friends and I could hardly be called big time. Though, I hope my efforts might be able to change that.
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Originally posted by Smokin' Joe:
How can you be so sure about anything you just said? Is it all from what you know about this Cull?
Sure? Sure is a matter of percentages.
Do I know for 100% certainty? No.
I've worked on both sides of the fence and I know some people who know some people. Whispers get around.

As for being a part of the CZM, its as much a matter of location as any initiation ceremony. You operate any non-cocaine related criminal enterprise in NA, Europe, or Russia, you are working CZM turf and to some degree they know about you. Unless your a lone nova doing your own thing, its only a matter of time before you are "in", dead, or on the run.

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I've actually dealt very little with what could be called a "Megasyndicate". My friends and I could hardly be called big time. Though, I hope my efforts might be able to change that.
Now, this is an interesting situation. What do you mean by "not being big time" and "having your efforts change that"?
Are you going to make a habit of killing "bad guys", liberating child prostitutes, and such? Are you going to provide a broader brush to your tactics?
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Originally posted by Edward:
I've actually dealt very little with what could be called a "Megasyndicate". My friends and I could hardly be called big time. Though, I hope my efforts might be able to change that.
Now, this is an interesting situation. What do you mean by "not being big time" and "having your efforts change that"?
Are you going to make a habit of killing "bad guys", liberating child prostitutes, and such? Are you going to provide a broader brush to your tactics?
Well, not big time as in not big time. I thought it was moderately clear. And as for my efforts, well, I'm hoping to help my friends in their endeavors.
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Okay, I'm bored and its dawn but breakfast isn't for another 20 minutes or so tell me why you want to help your friends. I realize I'm just using your personal life for enteratainment value while working up an appetite for dealing with a platter of eggs ranchero but its well intentioned.

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I want to help them because they seem to want to create a new paradigm; providing extralegal services and goods while trying to minimize the social harm they cause and maximize the good they can do. I find that admirable. But, since it isn't as profitable as the lazy and evil method of pure brutatlity and cruelty they need more help. I try to provide that help.

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I want to help them because they seem to want to create a new paradigm; providing extralegal services and goods while trying to minimize the social harm they cause and maximize the good they can do. I find that admirable.
I remember the days when people would say things like that about my profession. Heck, that rationalization is something I still hear today in the practice.
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