Vox Via Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Yes,I have a master plan. Yes, I have goals. They are nothing like Jagers.I am not sure what you know about the damning effects that powerful novas have on weaker and more importantly newly formed. I don't really care, it is not place to teach you. I do know that Jager does know and the fact he ignore those side effects make hi worse than a killer in some ways.By the way, seem and are two different beasts. You should know that, because of your past I would say it would seem Timeslip's life expectancy just got a whole lot shorter. I know better because I study up on things. I do not jump, before I look. As for my goals and plans? Let me sum them up, free will for everyone. If you want details, well I don't think many people would like me telling the truth on this forum, so I wont. Also the funny thing is by merely telling the would my goals they are in someway under-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 What is my Master Plan, Vanny? As for MY effect on younger novas; perhaps if you spent some time learning that whole "self-governance" thing the Teragen works so hard in selling ... instead of preaching down to us poor, beknighted souls ... you would understand that equality is a two-way street.You have to treat people as if they are your equals if you are to expect the same.It is a matter of self-control and expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Vanguard kiss the FUCK off. You don't know me. I have enemies yes, but I've beaten All of them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Long, Vanny knows all of us ... often better than we know ourselves. If you don't believe me, just ask him. We've both run across that kind of attitude before, haven't we?Beyond that, he's not worth your anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 You're right Jager. It isn't worth my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 I didn't say Vanny wasn't worth your time, just not your anger. The pretentious should always be challenged ... unless they're ME, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Via Posted June 27, 2005 Author Share Posted June 27, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: What is my Master Plan, Vanny? As for MY effect on younger novas; perhaps if you spent some time learning that whole "self-governance" thing the Teragen works so hard in selling ... instead of preaching down to us poor, beknighted souls ... you would understand that equality is a two-way street.You have to treat people as if they are your equals if you are to expect the same.It is a matter of self-control and expectations. And I should send sheep out to the wolves? You are a wolf. You are a predator and you wear sheep skins. You lie and cheat.And self-governance is the point, but with how you act they don't have a chance for that. They can't even be themselves and fuck you for all your high and mighty intentions. They don't mean shit, I was once a young nova and I was around powerful novas before I should have been. I know damned well how much your happy thoughts will mean to that nova when they find out what you did simply by being near them. You are the the slave driver. You want them to be like you and you don't give a flying fuck what they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Via Posted June 27, 2005 Author Share Posted June 27, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Long: Vanguard kiss the FUCK off. You don't know me. I have enemies yes, but I've beaten All of them before. You do understand I was saying that it only seemed that timeslip would not be in safe hands? Not that she was in danger. If I thought she was in danger I wouldn't have bothered talking to you about it. I would make sure she was safe in my own way. As it is I trust you with her safety.I am sorry for my poor wording,I have been under more stress than I should. These problems should be solved by other people, but they are dead or busy with other problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Grey Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 The funny thing about sheep is that they're more intelligent than everyone thinks. And sometimes you there's a ram with some big fucking horns and the big fucking balls to use them.Would you please shut your fucking trap and let these people just get married in peace without your crap and pony show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Vanguard, Let me make this crystal-clear for you. I knew and know exactly what I'm getting into with Long, and if you think it is shortening my life expectancy, you are sadly deluded. I was on a road to self-destruction...and frankly, your ham-fisted means of introducing me to the philosophies of Teras didn't help matters. Not that I don't agree with said philosophies -- I do -- but your methods stank on ice. Long has, in contrast, given me hope and a solid place to stand. Long, more than anyone or anything else, make possible my recent quantum expansion...and helped me to make use of it in such a way as to make it more, rather than less, likely that I survive this decade.Keep the hell away from Long, Vanguard...and keep the hell away from me. Fail to do so at your own peril. -- Timeslip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 and I thought I was the one with claws.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Vanguard: And I should send sheep out to the wolves?That is your decision to make? How interesting. You seem to be able to tell who needs help and who does not. Handy talent that?All I can do is offer to help out and then see who requests it.Quote:Originally posted by Vanguard: You are a wolf. You are a predator and you wear sheep skins.Not really. I am a predator and I don't deny it. I wear my own skin and foolish is the person who doesn't realize I can be dangerous. I don't lie about that.Quote:Originally posted by Vanguard: You lie and cheat.Lie? Yes. I practice the art of deception from time to time.Cheat? Nope. That implies I have sought out and gained something of greater value for something of lesser value.Quote:Originally posted by Vanguard: And self-governance is the point, but with how you act they don't have a chance for that.Like how? By telling people they can do things, that they can make a difference if they chose to, and that they can be the Captians of their own Destiny?You may have me on that one.Quote:Originally posted by Vanguard: They can't even be themselves and fuck you for all your high and mighty intentions. They don't mean shit, I was once a young nova and I was around powerful novas before I should have been. The hear of the matter.You feel you got burned when you were young so now you are out crusading to make sure the same doesn't happen to you.Wake up. I am not one of your accused abusers and they are not you.Quote:Originally posted by Vanguard: I know damned well how much your happy thoughts will mean to that nova when they find out what you did simply by being near them. You are the the slave driver.Man oh man ... I suddenly want to stand up on the table at WCK HQ and say ..."Attack my Knightly Minions!!! Attack, for I command it!"And, after they sedate me and put me to bed ...If one is aware of the effect one has on people, one can control it if one truly tries. The WCK has seen me deal with a crowd. I think they have an inkling of what I might be able to do ... and I hope they also believe that I don't act that way because I'm not a total shit.Remember, Vanny, its Control + Will = Desired ResultQuote:Originally posted by Vanguard: You want them to be like you and you don't give a flying fuck what they should be. Be like me?Why in the hell would I want that? My life has had some pretty crappy moments that I don't wish on my enemies, but it's my life. I am responsible for it.I believe we can and should each be responsible for our own lives.I don't know what other people's lives are going to be. In some cases, I will get along with people, and in others I will probably end up in opposition. A good number of people will have no solid opinion of me one way or another. That happens.Don't presume to know what I care about. It will only get you in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 On a related note;,,Quote:Originally posted by Vanguard: If I thought she was in danger I wouldn't have bothered talking to you about it. I would make sure she was safe in my own way. If you try screwing with TimeSlip and/or Long, and they request my help, you can consider yourself to have more hate on your hands than you know how to deal with.Normally, I don't feel the need to speak out about such things in public, but you haven't been acting rationally recently, so consider yourself warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Grey Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 How about I be clearer than I was before: The wedding is happening, Captain Won't Shut Up isn't invited, and it's going to be a goddamn blast.Now have a good time, damnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Rumor has it that N! made an offer.How about it, Long, Timeslip, are you going to televise it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Now I know it's the choice of you two, but I would prefer my piano playing debut, to not be televised on N! ...just a note, but it is up to you two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Televise it? A world of no. Cripes, this isn't some gala Hollywood wedding; it's just a couple of novas that want to be together for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Timeslip:Vanguard, Let me make this crystal-clear for you. I knew and know exactly what I'm getting into with Long, and if you think it is shortening my life expectancy, you are sadly deluded. I was on a road to self-destruction...and frankly, your ham-fisted means of introducing me to the philosophies of Teras didn't help matters. Not that I don't agree with said philosophies -- I do -- but your methods stank on ice. Long has, in contrast, given me hope and a solid place to stand. Long, more than anyone or anything else, make possible my recent quantum expansion...and helped me to make use of it in such a way as to make it more, rather than less, likely that I survive this decade.Keep the hell away from Long, Vanguard...and keep the hell away from me. Fail to do so at your own peril. -- TimeslipGood on you, Timeslip. Someone needs to remind this particular Terat that you are exercising your choice as a free-thinking nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Via Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 Samhra, one should remember that you are not the one to preach about hypocrisies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Oh Lord and Lady, not the cryptic shit again. Shut up already and leave my friends alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Vanguard, what the hell is your major malfunction? Were you just not loved enough as a child? Did you lose your lunch money too many times? Catch your head in a mechanical rice picker? In short...what the hell is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thank you, Mr. Grey. I needed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Grey Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Always a pleasure, CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Vanguard...just listen to yourself for a second. You're talking about people interfering, and isn't that exactly what you're doing.Let people form their own opinions, let them trust their own guts, their own instincts. Just shut the hell up and let people live their own life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Via Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 Amped you are young. You may not have seen this with your own eyes. I have. We are nova, each and everyone of us. We should set morals and rules for ourselves. We must make lines in sand in witch we ourselves will not cross. We can change these lines, and we in fact should change those lines as we grow older,and more aware of the reasoning behind those lines. We should let others set their own lines. We should let others figure out why they should have those lines,and what those lines should mean to them. By me standing next to you, your lines that you set in the sand would become more and more pointless. You would become more and more like me. You would lose yourself into me. This is by me merely being near you, not using my will, nor abilities. I yell at Jager and demand him from playing with children because he damned well knows enough about novas to know the danger I just told you. Now, you may see why i drive other novas away from me with such disregard to their feelings. You may call me crazy. You may call me what you want.Timeslip, you are such a lovely nova. I truly wish nothing wrong happens to you.As to my major malfunction is that I do not trust myself, at least in the way you do. I have seen to many well intending people do to much damage. I have seen the wisest words fall on deaf ears. I speak to you young novas with hate and rage because I fear that you will forget any kind word I could offer you. I fear that you wouldn't understand why I am here, so I do not explain. Most of all I fear that by telling you the whole truth in simplest ways you will grow complacent and not strive for your own truth. That by setting you with everything you want, you will not explore further, and find things that I would never think of. No you can call me crazy, that is up to you. You may even hate me. Just remember that you have the ability to say that all your greatness you have done because it is who you are. I can't say that, I saw I should have been and it is nothing like what I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Vanguard, I don't know how many ways I need to say it. Stop interfering with me, I'll be happy if I never hear from you again. I couldn't die a happier Nova if that was the only thing I accomplished in my life. Let me have my line, and please stop crossing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Vanguard, presume for an instant that young does not mean inexperienced.For that matter, you need to find a way to take responsibility for your own life and stop fighting your past. It gives the wrongs done to you that much more power. Take charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Vanguard: what you have just described is a projection of self-doubt. You take the uncertainly you have about yourself and slather it all over everyone else. Stop doing so, and we'll all get along one hell of a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Quote:Timeslip: Televise it? A world of no.Bride's choice.Quote:Timeslip:Cripes, this isn't some gala Hollywood wedding; it's just a couple of novas that want to be together for the long haul. The later could easily be made into the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Troll is not too far from the truth. It is nearly impossible for me to go anywhere public with Regan without seeing something about it on the OpNet within an hour, even after we left Utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Ah, but there's the rub. Long's career as an Elite never turned him into a media darling, and is several years in the past; meanwhile, I was never much of a public persona of any sort. We're pretty much at the extreme edge of N!'s radar, if on it at all...and I'm perfectly happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Lucky ya'll. I've got a nice little photo collection starting from all the tabloids saying stuff about me and Dervish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 well there are some snippets from Ibiza, luckily they are from our first stay at the hospital, not the last one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Black: The Magician Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Timeslip: We're pretty much at the extreme edge of N!'s radar, if on it at all...and I'm perfectly happy with that. Novas are getting married. How many novas can you name off the top of your head that have gotten married? And to other novas?Timeslip, dear girl, you were on the extreme edge of their radar. From ten minutes after the third person knew of your plans, you were dead center on the radar. It need not be terrible thing but you're setting yourself up for a disappointment if you continue to overlook some basic facts of life. A great many other novas have been asked to do "favors" for N! in the past. Their influence can be very invasive for that reason alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslip Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Well, N! hasn't bothered to call us for an interview or somesuch...which one would rather expect if they really gave a hoot about it. These days, I suspect N! has enough on its journalistic plate with the aftermath of Ibiza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Black: The Magician Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I'd never actually heard the word "journalistic" and "N!" in the same sentence before. I take it you've never actually worked for a corporation. Everybody loves a wedding. Enjoy yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-Carver Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Timeslip:These days, I suspect N! has enough on its journalistic plate with the aftermath of Ibiza.Tell me about it. I've had N! hounding me, trying to get interviews with the "Survivor of Ibiza." They don't take no for an answer, either. Timeslip, enjoy your wedding - may it be free of the press...Carver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Amped:Lucky ya'll. I've got a nice little photo collection starting from all the tabloids saying stuff about me and Dervish.But you two look so cute together! Besides, she's a Tn2M'er - pop sensation and baby superhero all mixed into one. You do the math.Timeslip, you and Long could just hire Totentanz for the day and have him stand outside the gates threatening to kill any reporters who show up. That should work well.Vanguard, find a Terat shrink. You're starting to make me nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'd thought about that, but I already have someone who'll do that for far less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 One would think what happened over a month ago would make anyone give pause before crashing an all nova party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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