opnet [OpNet] Why do we dream of flying?

[Dreamer]

Do we dream of flight, because we some how thing it will set us free of the world around us?

Yes, I can fly. I find it to rather liberating at times. I just wish to hear from others who fly or don't,on what they think of it.

[Preston]

I do not have dreams I remember anymore, nor do I sleep all that often.

On a slightly non-sequitur here, who here no longer feels the need for sleep?

[Dreamer]

Preston, do you think I sleep all day? Those that only dream when they are asleep are insane.

When I was a child, my dream was to be have the power to stop wars. I did not go to sleep and have "dreams" of stopping the war around me. I did however wished I could stop the fighting that was all around me.

When I was older,I dreamt of having the power to move away from where I was. Then, I dreamt of having the power to heal any wounds,and stop the killing. I could not do that at the time, but I still helped heal as many people as I can. So, please take note that dreams do not only happen when you are sleeping.

[Wakinyan]

I've been sleeping about 13 or so hours a day lately.

[Alex Craft]

I don't have any real need to sleep, but sometimes I do it anyway. Sometimes I go through stretches where I sleep most nights, sometimes I stay up for months on end - depends on how I feel (and on how busy I am). Haven't slept in several months (151 days, to be precise) due to some rather excellent breakthroughs in a few lines of research.

And I don't really recall the last time that I bothered with the more abstract 'dreaming.' Think of it as the Zen option - to dream is to desire and to desire is to suffer.

[Alex Craft]

PS: Isn't a dream of flight supposed to indicate sexual repression? Or was that just Freud?

Can't fly, never will. I'm left with my feet, my wheels, and my luck, and that works for me just fine.

[Wakinyan]

Are you saying that all of us who erupted with powers of flight where sexually repressed and we manifested the power because of it?

I see flight as freedom. So freedom is sex? I am a little confused.

[Magus]

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex Craft:
Or was that just Freud?

Freud. Another less prurient interpretation is that it represents a desire for freedom of action or absence of responsibility

I can fly. Its an applied technique for using a psychokinetic wavefront to distort the gravitic field but the result is the same. Unassisted flight. Its a skill I acquired with no small amount of effort post-eruption and I think of it in that manner. As a skill, not a power.

[Alex Craft]

"So freedom is sex?"

No, I just like backhanding Freud whenever I get the chance. To be honest.

[Xeno]

If one wanted to move more 3-dimensionally in one's dreams, flying would be good. Also perhaps dreaming of teleporting upwards?

Most of the Others are always dreaming a little. That is the easiest way Inside. Sometimes they dream like they used to, but not all of them.

Two of the Others can only dream. The tops of their minds were hurt before they came Inside. They are still very good though.

Flying Outside is nice, but somewhat difficult.

[Slattern]

Quote:

Originally posted by Totem:


I see flight as freedom. So freedom is sex? I am a little confused.

Sex is freedom. Flight is freedom. There is freedom in so much out there. Find as much of it as you can.

[Dreamer]

Sex, seems to be the be all and end all, on this forum. But if you people think sex is freedom, that is you. I find that sex is pleasure, but anything but free.

[Tarot]

Spoken like someone that was high maintenance and, or, had to pay for a little lovin'.

[Rowena 'Synergy' Bainbridge]

I have never dreamed of flight. Then again, I prefer to keep my feet safely on the ground.

[Dreamer]

Quote:

Originally posted by Tarot:
Spoken like someone that was high maintenance and, or, had to pay for a little lovin'.

no,spoken like someone who has a high value of freedom. When you are having sex, you are inevasibly pleasing someone else,and are having to conform to their needs, or at least their bodies. You have limits, and when you limit yourself you are not free.

But then you are one to think that a painting is art.

[Tarot]

You poor darling. That explains it. I hope someone, someday, can show you the truth. My apologies but it will not be me.

I haven't managed to put my finger on the reason why, but you've always creeped me out.

[Neil Preston]

Dreamer: WTF? Sharing doesn't imply you are giving up freedom, unless you are with the wrong someone. Sorry to hear it.

Tarot: I've met her and she creeped me out. You are probably on to something.

[Great Monster C]

I dream of a better world, not power for me.

[Dreamer]

C, to dream of freedom and to dream of power is not always the same.

Preston, not everything that is free is good, and not every price is bad. When you share you pay a price, and that is not always a bad thing. That can in fact be a good thing, but by paying a price you aren't being free.

[Tarot]

Being chained to anything, even an abstract concept, is still being chained. The heart of the matter isn't the concept. Its the chain.

Yeah, she is creepy as all hell. Dunno why. Glad it isn't just me though.

[Dreamer]

And Preston, care to tell me where you have "met" me?

[Neil Preston]

Everyone calls my dad Preston. Call me Neil, or Neil Preston please.

We met a little over a year ago at Endeavor Point.

[Tarot]

Shine her, Neil. She's just doing it to get under your skin. I grew up watching this aggro passivity shit done by experts. This is strictly amateur hour at the Mulligan house.

[Ghostwriter]

Yeah. Compared to what I used to be like, she's a Little Leaguer. (To borrow an American term.)

Careful though - everyone knows that Signy Malory and Dreamer aren't the same person.

[Tarot]

Why is it always another lesson in ancient history?

(Tarot grabbing his bag to go down the road to Andy's house for a more powerful opnet terminal to look up who the hell Signy fucking Malory was since GigaFx fried the house wiring in the midst of what was either a cathartic release or multiple screaming orgasms {note to self; ask Slattern if there's a difference} during the recent and soon to be infamous "Masters of Fantasy" sitting.

Damn Brindlestaff and his instant dwarf army. Damn the Master who wasn't suppose to show up until after GigaFx was done with her sitting anyway. And yeah, like Slattern was really just "passing by" and needed kosher vegetable oil that space cadet teleporter Willy managed to spill on her all the way from the kitchen to the closets upstairs. She was right though; it was perfect for reflecting the moonlight on their skin.

It really is no suprise that I can't keep a decent full time maid.)

[Magus]

I find it intriguing to consider these seemingly unrelated italicized musings you sometimes add might have even a kernal of truth to them.

Do they?

[Wakinyan]

The world may never know.

[Tarot]

The complete and unvarnished truth is in every word. Told from my objective point of view of course.

Now a question for Saimhe before I forget to ask her again now that I know who Signy Malory was; why would anyone care who Signy Malory is? Her parents named her "Signy". She doomed before ever reaching puberty.

Changing her name was a good start.

[Magus]

Asked and answered. Thank you. I hope it wasn't rude of me but "Brindlestaff and his instant dwarf army" was just too exotic a reference to not ask the question.

[Timeslip]

"Sleep, those little slices of death. Oh how I loathe them." - Poe

[Magus]

Quote:

Originally posted by Preston:
On a slightly non-sequitur here, who here no longer feels the need for sleep?

Not I. A fact for which I am most grateful. Within dreaming slumber lies realms of infinite potential.

Some of my best work comes after a good nights rest.

[Walker]

Haven't needed to sleep since I erupted. I still did sleep from time to time as a way to recharge my quantum batteries and to enjoy dreaming. I've found though that if I'm low on juice simply sitting down and doing nothing or meditating works just as well. Because there is no limit to the interesting things you can do to your brain when you have control over your physical shape I don't miss out on the dreaming either.

[kestrel404]

I require very little sleep these days. A few hours, once a week. I could probably forgo even that, if I pushed myself a bit.

Does wonders for my productivity. And my opnet posting abilities.

[Gerald Haney]

Well, yeah, I still knock off the forty winks every night. But, it's nice, while I still only sleep as much as I used to (5 or 6 hours) now it feels like plenty. I love my node.

[Jager]

A good question would be:

What do we miss when we miss sleep? It is one thing to claim "I don't miss anything", but how do you really know?

Dreaming serves a purpose for baselines. Does it still have a purpose for us?

[Magus]

Speaking only for myself, yes it does serve a purpose. I dream, clear out the mental cobwebs and reorder things mentally. I'm certain there are those novas for whom this is a conscious function yet I wonder. If they share nothing so basic as sleep and dreams, how greatly will they diverge from the societies in which they dwell? I won't argue that their lives are probably more productive and certainly more efficient. Still, efficiency and productivity is not the standard by which all things are measured.

Dream state free of the restrictions imposed by the conscious mind is a place of infinite possibilities. It would be sad to think of those gifted with great power but denied the ability to step away from their own mental limitations.