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Jager,

I fear that we got off on the wrong foot, and think that it might be best if we both took a step (or leap) back and start over.

I am Timeslip. I fiddle with temporal matters, and have a certain amount of curiousity -- scientific and otherwise -- regarding quantum transformations, the mechanics of Taint, and the progression of novakind. Despite misconstrued comments to the contrary, I have no desire to see you (or your gender in general) enslaved or emasculated.

Your turn.

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Hey there, TimeSlip.

I'm Jager. I am curious about the universe and I like it when people question their motivations, thoughts, and direction ... that nothing should be taken for granted.

I never thought you were some kind of militant feminist. I hope you don't think I'm some kind of misogynist ass.

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I was reading the other thread where I believe the Male vs. Female subject originated. Instead of bringing that up, may I ask if your opinion was based on first hand knowledge/experience of the Neo-Lithic Revolution? I'm not a huge history buff but I did get a degree in Anthropology back in the day. And the problems with civilization and men and women (according to some) all date back to the Neo-Lithic revolution.

Thoughts?

Forgive the indulgence. I haven't had a chance to speak to a Time-jumper outside of a professional capacity.

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No, it is based on the knowledge that I am not the "nurturing type."
Is this condition innate (how?) or deliberate (why?)?

Please forgive this query if it is not appropriate and do not feel that any obligation to respond is implied. ... Though it would be pleasing to know.
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I guess my question was more about the Neolithic Revolution than your nurturing habits. Sorry for the personal life prying.

Did it happen as theory dictates? There's very little evidence and well, sexist archeology practices helped define several generations of Archeologists, so I'm curious as to the "truth" as it were.

I'm surprised no one on the forum's tried quizzing you yet. Perhaps I'm about to find out why.

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Proteus,

I cannot leap back to the Neolithic period. I cannot leap back to last week. True time travel is quite beyond me at this time; though the theory for such is sound, it would require a quantum intensity that I do not currently possess. I can distort local temporal fields to some extent, but no more.

That said, I am aware of other timestreams -- not by personally visiting them, but by having been visited by, for lack of a better term, alternate versions of myself. It would take only a bit more quantum intensity than I currently possess to develop that skill, and it is something that I am investigating. Even those more "advanced" analogues have not, however, possessed true time travel capabilities (at least, not to which they have admitted).

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Proteus, could you please describe what you see and define as the Neolithic Revolution?

TimeSlip, have your other selves talked about the possibility of a Prime existence, or do they each see their own existence as the base timeline? I have been told that certain time-sensitive novas have sensed that certain timelines are more "natural" or "intune" than others. Just curious.

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From what I know (and my info's out of date, which is weird for historic studies) the NeoLithic Revolution is the moment in history that man stopped being Nomadic, started farming/raising animals, figured out that Women are property (because children are property and power)...and came up with the idea and practice of Private Property. It wasn't my subject of study for too long but for some reason it stood out in my mind as an interesting time for the development of civilization. Of course all this is from the analysis of a lot of data and is without question inaccurate. But the Neolithic Revolution refers to those "accomplishments" in man's history. This is just MY understanding of it. I'll now wait for a history professor who erupted to correct me.

Timeslip: If you're interested in getting a boost in "quantum intensity" there is a group of Novas with Time-altering powers that are working on a group project for the sake of research. It's not classified yet, but it doesn't take a Prophet to know it's going to be done behind closed door pretty soon. Anyway, if you're interested send me a PM.

And sorry for assuming you were a Time-jumper. The first two I met talked about it and, well, now there's a stereotype of Time-related Novas stuck in my brain. My apologies.

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Jager: We have more or less agreed that there is no "prime" timestreams (or, perhaps more accurately, that all of the various timestreams are "prime" in that they are all "descended" from a common origin point at the start of time).

Proteus: Tempting, but before I take that route, I need to find a solution to the Taint issue; from long experience and investigation, I know that any gain in quantum intensity from my current level is going to come hand-in-hand with more Taint, and that is something that I simply cannot afford right now.

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Thanks Proteus. Just checking. In my studies, the Neolithic Revolution was primarily the social-economic changes that took place, along with the advances in tool use.

In more modern interpretations, the change in women's social status didn't happen until the late Neolithic and was far from universal. More emphasis is placed upon the re-interpretations of female dieties and local farm management/division of labor.

TimeSlip, thanks.

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I've never put too much stock into the neolithic "revolution". As Jager already mentioned, it was "far from universal." It relies on too much interpretation and not enough data, for me at least. And it's rooted in what I have called, the European bias. It's reminds me a lot of the Movius Line or how Nelson interpreted his findings in central Asia during the 1920s.

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