opnet [OpNet] Sick Puppies

[Morninglight2]

Is it just me or is the average guy today a sick puppy?

I was sittin' down watchin' TV an' in comes Scott 'Sky-High' Rafter (seriously, that's his Tn2M handle). He pulls his 'I'm the team-leader so I get ta watch what I want whenever I want' routine an' takes the remote. Okay, so I'm used ta guys hoggin' it, but I ain't so used ta it goin' from Home an' Away (guest-starrin' Melissa 'Divarona' Medford herself) ta the XWF! An' not just the XWF, but a replay of the Totem vs. Ravana match!

Ewww! Fireballs an' feathers ain't my thing.

Seriously, what is it with guys an' violence anyways?

[Wakinyan]

Blood is blood people love seeing it (Ask Billy).

I dunno if I should comment on this any further I don't like thinking about that night.

[Lee Jones]

It's just a method to find our place in society. We need to spread our genetic material and will do anything to do it, sometimes it means killing the guy next to us. Violence is just one of many manifestations.

Women do it too, usually they are more subtle about it.

What is interesting is that humans (baseline or nova) have found so many ways to express it. Being rich, athletic, or socially dynamic are really just ways to get ahead in the sex department.

[Xeno]

Observation indicates that violence is, practically speaking, usually employed in demonstration of superiority/authority.

It is therefore hypothesized that the general appeal of watching violence in progress is based on some (as of yet undefined) desire to be shown who is, in some way, in charge. Possessing this information may have some evolutionary benefit.

This hypothesis extends to 'non combative violence' in that an individual suffering damage without another's influence is demonstrating inferiority to 'reality' in general.

Demonstration of inferiority seems closely tied to humor.

[DigiGeist]

Did you just define the "prat-fall"? THE key element to comedy?

You want laughs that bad? I'll toss myself from the top of the Sears Tower. I've Wile E. Coyote'd from lots of high places.

Hurts like hell on landing. Not to mention the heal-up time. UGH.

Comedy hurts.

[Xeno]

That will not be necessary, but thank you for the offer. It is sufficient to imagine the event.

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The facial expression at the time of impact, and immediately before and after, plays a significant role in distinguishing between comedy and tragedy, it seems. Vocalizations during the same periods are also relevant.

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Damage to unwary, fragile bystanders reduces comedic potential overall. Damage to unattended property, to a lesser extent. It is advised that there may be some variability between individuals in response to such events.

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Cause of plummet plays a role. Accident seems most likely to produce a favorable response. Banana peel has been suggested as the prototypical cause of such events, though no practical advantage to that selection has been observed.

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If real-world physical constraints are disregarded, height and number of bounces on impact seems to have a direct effect on overall response, though this is unlikely to supercede any of the previously listed factors.

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Survival of the subject is a moderate to strong requisite for general comedic appeal.

[Jager]

Violence is the result in the breakdown of authority.

The social structure of a humanish social unit is non-violent. We are more often tied together by shows of affection/respect than by slapping each other around. Only when some sort of aberration arises, does violence ensue.

[Alex Craft]

Or so says one of the major macrosociological viewpoints.

The other big one is called 'conflict theory.' Name tells you all you need to know. From this viewpoint, social structures exist as they do for the benefit of those in power, and all societies are characterized by constant conflict as those with less power attempt to remake the society into one in which they have more power.

Both theories have about the same degree of evidence behind them. Don't let old elites tell you otherwise. ( ;

[billy Horrorshow]

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Originally posted by DigiGeist:
Comedy hurts.

It hurts a lot. Luckily for me, my screams of pain are somehow amusing. If you watch I think it's my 3rd tape they edit all of them next to one another. The best has got to be the "girly oh GOD" scream that happens when people surprise me with something horrible.

Other people's pain is almost always Hella Funny...unless someone reminds you they're other people and "real". I'm not going to go into the dynamics of the male power thing and how it's become a thing of humor while at the same type reached an escalated state of hyper-acceptance. Bah.
USD has me speaking for a course on Domestic & Social Violence. Lucky me.

The short answer is always that Guys suck.
"What's this thing that guys have with Violence?"
"Oh, they suck, that's all."

[Timeslip]

Men are nothing that cannot be corrected with the development of a viable artificial sperm and a simple method for transfering genetic material from an ovum to it. Given the accelerated deterioration of the Y-chromosome, this is a development that should be pursued with all due haste.

[Tarot]

*sigh*

And I thought that starfield ambiance was so romantic. Oh well.

[Timeslip]

I'm sorry, Tarot, but on a macro level, that is the situation. The Y-chromosome has been deteriorating for quite some time, and said deterioration is accelerating; unless the deterioration is arrested (unlikely) or an artificial replacement is developed, the human race -- including our particular offshoot -- is not likely to survive for the long term.

Also on a macro level, men are...well, a problem. Whilst individual members can be rather decent (or, indeed, quite wonderful), on a societal level they are problematic in the extreme, with an elevated susceptability toward "mob mentalities", violent solutions to non-violent problems, and lack of long-term vision. As noted above, this is not true for every example of the kind, but it is true as a statistical norm.

[Jager]

Tarot, she's right.

Unless we guys find a better ovum receptor for the strongest Y-chromosones, we guys are in big, big trouble. After all, we have been giving them literally millions of sperm-options for millenia, and they (the ones producing the relatively few eggs) haven't been doing a good job at chosing the best ones. Maybe giving women that great a responsibility in the genetic process has been too much?

TimeSlip, I believe your macro-level assumption are non-substantiatable, though. Mobs are made up of all kinds of people and are usually made up of an appropriate percentage of people on the scene.

My favorite example is the fish-wives storming Versailles at the start of the French Revolution, but more modern examples can be found in student protests in US campuses during the Vietnam Era and street protests during the Iranian Revolution.

So TimeSlip, how long have you felt this way? I mean, feeling that the male of the species is the source of the problem and that something needs to be done about them.

[Eris]

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Originally posted by Jager:
So TimeSlip, how long have you felt this way? I mean, feeling that the male of the species is the source of the problem and that something needs to be done about them.

Probably since she heard that you existed.

[Long]

God not this again....

[Timeslip]

Jager, you are an excellent argument for gynocracy.

[Jager]

TimeSlip, please explain that one to me. Seriously.

Of course, you are also assuming that I would be opposed to a gynocracy, which I'm not so sure about. As long as someone is there to be in charge and taking responsibility, why shouldn't it be a woman?

Eris, I luv you too, but I think you are (just perhaps) overstating my influence on TimeSlip's feminist views.

[Edison]

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Originally posted by Timeslip:
I'm sorry, Tarot, but on a macro level, that is the situation. The Y-chromosome has been deteriorating for quite some time, and said deterioration is accelerating; unless the deterioration is arrested (unlikely) or an artificial replacement is developed, the human race -- including our particular offshoot -- is not likely to survive for the long term.

Also on a macro level, men are...well, a problem. Whilst individual members can be rather decent (or, indeed, quite wonderful), on a societal level they are problematic in the extreme, with an elevated susceptability toward "mob mentalities", violent solutions to non-violent problems, and lack of long-term vision. As noted above, this is not true for every example of the kind, but it is true as a statistical norm.

Toots, you ain't no fuckin princess either. From what you've said your addicted to LSD, so you ain't got no room to talk about what's good and what's bad. From now on, you're a perma-neutral from my standpoint.

[Slattern]

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Originally posted by Timeslip:
Men are nothing that cannot be corrected with the development of a viable artificial sperm and a simple method for transfering genetic material from an ovum to it. Given the accelerated deterioration of the Y-chromosome, this is a development that should be pursued with all due haste.

Bite your tongue you silly little twat.

[Slattern]

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Originally posted by Timeslip:
Jager, you are an excellent argument for gynocracy.

Okay, so that isn't a terrible idea.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Slattern:

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Originally posted by Timeslip:
Jager, you are an excellent argument for gynocracy.

Okay, so that isn't a terrible idea.

Ah, DAMN, but that was uncalled for!

So, am I to take it Narcosis is still pissed about the "your the best transvestite I've ever slept with" comment?

[Lee Jones]

I have been thinking about this thread the last couple days. And I found something for anybody who may be interested.

I was just given some new storage space from my department, so I was going to move some of my books into it. I was showing one of my undergrad interns which boxes go where and it just so happens that one falls out. I pick it up and there it is. A book regarding male violence. I read it when I was an undergrad, but it's been in storage since.

It's called Demonic Males by Richard Wrangham and Dale Peterson. It's a good read. It discusses the violent tendencies found in apes. And how it relates to modern human society.

Pick it up if you want to learn more.

[Slattern]

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Originally posted by Jager:

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Originally posted by Slattern:

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Originally posted by Timeslip:
Jager, you are an excellent argument for gynocracy.

Okay, so that isn't a terrible idea.

Ah, DAMN, but that was uncalled for!

So, am I to take it Narcosis is still pissed about the "your the best transvestite I've ever slept with" comment?

Oh my but aren't you a sensitive as a teen-age girl? I was saying that a gynocracy wasn't a terrible idea.

As for Narcosis, she's never mentioned you. Perhaps you weren't....memorable?

[Dreamer]

Well, one could look at humans and our spread over the earth as a sign that we are the best killing machines that have come out the ooze on this rock. We live in every part of the world,and have hunted or killed any and every other form of life. We have whipped out some that we have never ever "seen".

So, as for why do we like violence? Well, why do not like nonviolence? And as for why do men like it? Well, why do women dislike it?

By the way, do you eat? As if you do, I find it highly unlikely that you do not enjoy the fruits of violent labors.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Slattern:
but aren't you a sensitive as a teen-age girl?

Well, that's the nicest thing you've said about me so far.

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Originally posted by Slattern:
As for Narcosis, she's never mentioned you. Perhaps you weren't....memorable?

Well Slattern, there is a reason she doesn't talk to just anybody about me and her, but I will leave it to you to figure out why that is.

The quote was not by me, either, but by someone else ... a mutual aquaintence. Again, I will leave it for you to talk about it with her, or to hunt down the incindent on your own, if you can.

[Ashnod]

Actually, she admitted under full telepathic-scan that you were the worst lay she ever had. But, apparently you did a favor for her completely unrelated to intimacy and your requested price was that she not admit that to anyone else.

[Morninglight2]

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreamer:
Well, one could look at humans and our spread over the earth as a sign that we are the best killing machines that have come out the ooze on this rock. We live in every part of the world,and have hunted or killed any and every other form of life. We have whipped out some that we have never ever "seen".

So, as for why do we like violence? Well, why do not like nonviolence? And as for why do men like it? Well, why do women dislike it?

By the way, do you eat? As if you do, I find it highly unlikely that you do not enjoy the fruits of violent labors.

Geez, lady, did we wipe out other species or whip 'em?

If it's the latter, lady, ya pretty gross-kinky.

'Sides, the Project's fixin' it all up anyways.

Glad ta see I've started some serious discussion, but the question was more rhe- fancy word - rhetorical. Guess I was complainin' about guys.

Not that I'm a man-hatin' lesbian or anythin', promise!

[Amped]

Alright! I still have a chance!!!

Though I wouldn't be opposed to you likin' women or anything.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Ashnod:
Actually, she admitted under full telepathic-scan that you were the worst lay she ever had. But, apparently you did a favor for her completely unrelated to intimacy and your requested price was that she not admit that to anyone else.

Bwahahaha ....

Glad to see she can even fool you, The Great Ashnod. Your not infalliable after all, which is somewhat comforting.
Nice shot. Missed your mark, and we even danced together once, but then you have already made up your mind about me and there is no changing that.

[Ashnod]

At one point did I claim belief or disbelief in this, hon?

[Tarot]

[size:4]This post is rated "R" for sexual situations in an adult context. If you're under the age of 17, or otherwise still too immature to deal with adult situations, then go download erotic photomanipulations of novas or something equally as repressed.

I think its so great that Jager and Slattern talk shit to each other like they never had a SubDom thing going on sometime in their past. Or that people that are otherwise supposedly in their adulthood are still so insecure about their sexuality.

Let me make it easy for you. Everybody will be attracted to someone of the "wrong" gender at some point. Every will be attracted to someone of the "right" gender at some point. Everyone will enjoy playing games and tweaking social activities that have something to do with sexuality, gender identity and what's "right" as well as what's "wrong". Jager getting dominated by Slattern, aside from the incongruity of the mental image of Jager being in a submissive role and not talking shit for once, isn't "wrong" if he liked it and she liked it. If Totem wants to have homoerotic fantasies and talk about "ass this" or "drilling that", it isn't wrong just because he's thinking of men either. If I want to spend the weekend with all five of Whore's Daughters and a party mix of novas male, female and indeterminate then that's okay too and anyone that doesn't like it can just kiss my ass and take a wild guess why they weren't invited...

Sex is not complex, people. We do it to breed and we do it for fun.

[Timeslip]

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Originally posted by Edison:
Toots, you ain't no fuckin princess either. From what you've said your addicted to LSD, so you ain't got no room to talk about what's good and what's bad. From now on, you're a perma-neutral from my standpoint.

I am not -- repeat, not -- "addicted" to lysergic acid diethylamide, any more than you are addicted to water. Courtesy of the unfortunate nature of my quantum transformation, I require lysergic acid diethylamide as a basic nutrient; it holds no hallucinogenic or addictive properties for me. And to be quite frank, I have a great difficulty in summoning any degree of care for how or what you may think of me.

[Edison]

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Originally posted by Timeslip:
And to be quite frank, I have a great difficulty in summoning any degree of care for how or what you may think of me.

Now you know how I feel, so keep your female chauvinistic thoughts to yourself.

[Timeslip]

Edison, if your desire is to silence me, I fear that you will need to learn to live with disappointment.

[Wakinyan]

Wheeee! If this hasn't become a fun thread to read. Not only does it have some crazy time bent man hating lesbian it also mentions me having homoerotic fantasies! Now I have to admit I sometimes wonder about London Fog but you start thinking about those kinda things and you just end up more confused than you started.

By the way Tarot I liked that you only used the term Drilling when you could have used Ass Spelunking or maybe ManChowder Sampler.

[Edison]

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Originally posted by Timeslip:
Edison, if your desire is to silence me, I fear that you will need to learn to live with disappointment.

No silencing is truly requested or desired, I'm just trying to be as big of a asshole here as you are babe.

[Lemmy Chillmeister]

Wow. A dick shaking contest between a guy and a girl. This is interesting.

Timeslip sweetie, honey, pretty britches. So. You dig acid? Does quality mean anything to you? Does the good shit make like tasty while that vile, scrapped off the boot of some halfwit chemistry major crap just curdle your tongue? Cuz if so, well, I know some people who know some people if you know what I mean. Heh.

[Timeslip]

Totem: you assume much about me. Funny word, "assume"....

Lemmy Chillmeister: Taking my daily dose of lysergic acid diethylamide is about as exciting and appetizing as taking a calcium supplement. Sorry, but I'm not in the market for "the good shit." That said, thank you for the offer.

[Tarot]

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Originally posted by Totem:
By the way Tarot I liked that you only used the term Drilling when you could have used Ass Spelunking or maybe ManChowder Sampler.

Had to go with what you've given me to work with otherwise I'd have just been making this up. Dude, you're the not the first guy that ever had thoughts about the King, you know. Some actor even immortalized the thought in a movie. "If I had to do it with a guy, I mean had to, I'd pick Elvis because you know it would rock. Not that I'm, like gay, but its Elvis and the he's the King."

Its a legal game if the players are consenting.

[Slattern]

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Originally posted by Edison:
Now you know how I feel, so keep your female chauvinistic thoughts to yourself.

Oh yes, the lightning bug. Lemmy has told me all about you. You apparently want some....attention? So, what do you like?

Girls?
Boys?


or anyone who's holding a whip?