Dreamer Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Well, I have to say that I am still new to the love thing. Well, at least I think it is love, but that is the problem with emotions, isn't it? But in any case, i have been around for a long time, and I have had my share of bed fellows, but I never really felt love. I may have thought I have at the time, but compared to now, it seems just so hallow.Now, I have been noticing how people on this forum think that love is some what of an out dated idea,based on the fact that novas are empathic, or telepathic. Then based on this, sex is some how more meaningful. I am sorry for making sound so simple,but that is what I am seeing.I do not agree with this, because I think that love is something more than just knowing who you love,it is also them knowing you. It is not about a list of facts only,but being there. It is not only knowing how your other half reacts to any giving, but being there and reacting with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Um. Are we supposed to all argue about the nature of love?Now THAT sounds like a semantic nightmare.Honestly your point kind of eludes me. Ok. Screw it. I'll bite:When did the forum stand up and say having telepathy means love is an outdated concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Meh, I think Creamer's high as a kite Freakshow ol boy. Telepathy makes love as real as concrete and steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Tried it. Not always my way to roll but it wasn't something I'd turn down just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Lemmy Chillmeister:Telepathy makes love as real as concrete and steel.None know this better than I. Sharing minds is as erotic - if not more so - than sharing bodies.The downside is that you must share real passion or at least desire for it to truly work. Nothing kills the mood more than knowing your partner isn't that interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 That reminds me of the hottest encounter I ever had. It was this empathic woman that... Oops. Sorry. Off-topic. Way the hell off topic. But really memorable. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Tarot:That reminds me of the hottest encounter I ever had. It was this empathic woman that... Oops. Sorry. Off-topic. Way the hell off topic. But really memorable. Carry on.Ah yes, the joys of empathy. Mind you, I can only channel mine through my telepathy, but it's definitely made mine and Franklin's sex life more interesting.Sorry for the off-topic, people, but you need to remember that empathy can engender love where none was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 There's got to be a better word that "empathy" for the Node-voodoo you guys are talking about. Hell I'm an empathetic person...it's part of my charm. One doesn't need a node to be empathetic.Random semantic 2 cents. Sorry.Empathy just seems to be a nice way of Labelling "Emotional manipulation"...but no one would call it that due to the fucking awful connotations that has. :sigh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastian Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Off subject, if you think of thought and emotion sharing as a "trick", I feel you are missing something. True, you can use it for a euphoric rush to add to what you know, but it isn't the same thing as true mental intimacy.On subject, there is love. When you add mind-sharing, you must be prepared for truth. You also must be ready for love not being eternal for everyone.I suggest we enjoy what we have and not become obsessed with the "perfect" love. We are not perfect, so we are not likely to understand a perfect love until we stumble across it.Be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 She didn't "Emotional Manipulate" me, Billy. She shared what it felt like to be her, with me, diving for the pearl while gripping her ankles tightly in a no-leverage position to keep from getting bucked off into the villa across the way. I had my own head of steam rushing the whole time. It added something for her to know I was getting into it and for me to know she was getting off on it. You sure you're not just upset about missing out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Tarot, I wasn't talking about you, but "thanks" for sharing. I was just wondering if there was a better word than Empathic.And please, let's not bring the specifics of Nova's sex lives into the open again. I'm still having "hairy sheath" Totem nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Lemmy Chillmeister: Meh, I think Creamer's high as a kite Freakshow ol boy. Telepathy makes love as real as concrete and steel. Are you sure? Can you quantify love in such away to call it anything,other than mind set,that one has for something or someone? I have talked to more than a telepathic people,and they are just like you or me.Their points of view interfere with what they are seeing. They look at the same thing,and use different words.But if you read my post,and not jumped into it looking for sound bits. I did not say that telepathic powers made love outdated.I stated I saw that people on this form seemed to think they did. I should have said some, but I am not prefect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 You know, when I originally started to write this post, I was going to re-ask my original question (since it was ignored). Then I saw this:,,Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer:I am not prefect.That's awesome. You may be my little Blue Cherry in training after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Mr. Horrorshow, I think that just maybe there should be a better word for empathy for what humans do. A nova actually can be empathic. I am. With animals at least. I actually can feel what they are feeling. I actually can understand what they are feeling. What you describe is guessing. You are good at guessing what other people feel. You are good at figuring out what people are feeling because of the frown they wear, or the tears in their eyes. I know what a chimpanzee is feeling because I KNOW WHAT A CHIMPANZEE IS FEELING. I know it as well as I used to know my own face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Yeah but if a Chimpanzee is depressed do you understand and feel it's depresssion? Isn't that all part of being Empathetic? Being Human and sharing/undestanding emotions? Crying because you can feel the pain of someone else, that kind of crap? But sure, call it guessing. A doctor/psycyhiatrist doesn't diagnos...he makes educated guesses. Only a Nova can TRULY Diagnos a problem. Bah. I'm just scared that if we start stripping words of their meaning to make room for the absolutism of a Nova Definition, then things start to get crazy.Oh god, I'm being lulled into a semantic battle of the Stars. Ooops.I still say we should all go that Heinrich route and start speaking the "Nova language"....before we all start butchering English too much more already. Hell, I used to call my junk my "taint" and I really can't do that anymore, now can I? Side note: Quote:Originally posted by Cull:I know what a chimpanzee is feeling because I KNOW WHAT A CHIMPANZEE IS FEELING. I know it as well as I used to know my own face.If you look at Chimpanzees the exact same amount of time that you look at your own face, there's a very obvious and easy joke that I'm having trouble not making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 The term 'empathy' doesn't refer to any kind of nova power. It predates our existence and refers to exactly the kind of thing that Horrorshow is talking about. This 'knowing another person/animal's emotion' is something new and quite separate that falls more in the domain of psychic abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by billy Horrorshow: You know, when I originally started to write this post, I was going to re-ask my original question (since it was ignored). Then I saw this:Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer:I am not prefect.That's awesome. You may be my little Blue Cherry in training after all. I did not ignore your post.I simply chose not to get sucked into the kind of battle you let yourself be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by billy Horrorshow: Tarot, I wasn't talking about you, but "thanks" for sharing.Just I trying to clarify this whole empathic coitus thing for you. Yeah, the hairy sheath thing was balls nasty but it was the image of someone else coughing up the hairball that had me shuddering. Sucking on a poster tube wrapped in mink isn't a pleasant image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer:I simply chose not to get sucked into the kind of battle you let yourself be.What can I say? I'm not "prefect". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Titan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 From all my years, the one thing I have learned and can repeat in full confidence is this.Love is one of the greatest feelings you can have in the world, you need to embrace it while you have it, and you won't know what you're missing until you've experienced, and you won't know what you've truly had until you've lost it.There is a major difference between love and lust, and one just cannot fill the void a human being needs. Now I haven't been a nova for a long time, so I hope all you yungins don't mind me saying human being with the Teragen thoughts and everything, but that's not important. What is important is that true love can exist without sex, true lust cannot. I know from experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slattern Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Far too many people, people with small minds and sorry souls, discount lust in comparison to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Titan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Slattern, let me expand a bit.Lust is also a great thing, but really, the two should never be compared. They have both held their special places in my past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Slattern: Far too many people, people with small minds and sorry souls, discount lust in comparison to love. People will kill for both reasons so they seem pretty even for me. Though I have to say something in love never lets your escape it like lust will allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted January 25, 2005 Author Share Posted January 25, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Slattern: Far too many people, people with small minds and sorry souls, discount lust in comparison to love. Hate and rage aren't the same thing. Neither is love and lust. I do not care if they sometimes lead to the same ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Never felt love and finding a reason to tell other people why what they have isn't good enough. Sounds like what I'm coming to recognize as typical Dreamer. Did you have a point to all of this or were you just sharing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer: Well, I have to say that I am still new to the love thing. Well, at least I think it is love, but that is the problem with emotions, isn't it?Love is always new. Emotions are only a problem if you look at them that way.Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer:But in any case, i have been around for a long time, and I have had my share of bed fellows, but I never really felt love. I may have thought I have at the time, but compared to now, it seems just so hallow.So basicly, you are bragging about how you feel you are in love now, and how that pales to your other experiences. Infatuation works the same way, you know?Of course, why dis the feeling? Isn't enjoying it good enough? Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer:Now, I have been noticing how people on this forum think that love is some what of an out dated idea,based on the fact that novas are empathic, or telepathic. Then based on this, sex is some how more meaningful. I am sorry for making sound so simple,but that is what I am seeing.Love ... truth ... don't confuse them. Both are handy to have, but not necessarily a requirement for one another.Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer:I do not agree with this, because I think that love is something more than just knowing who you love,it is also them knowing you. It is not about a list of facts only,but being there. It is not only knowing how your other half reacts to any giving, but being there and reacting with them. Aren't you over-analyzing this? Love doesn't come from "knowing" someone, or them "knowing" you. It comes from within. It is yours to nurture, or kill. Don't blame the other guy, or gal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Slattern: Far too many people, people with small minds and sorry souls, discount lust in comparison to love. I am curious why they have to be compared at all?I would rather compare the love of Marc Anthony for Ceasar and Cleopatra.Anyone want to pick this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 Well, why did I post this thread. I couldn't rightly tell you. I could tell you that I am glad with the way it turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Dreamer: Well, why did I post this thread.I'm betting on boredom and a fondness for asking questions whose answers are only meaningful to the person providing it.Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Nope. Not me. I'm not going to fall into her insidious trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Tarot, you are close but I don't really think you are right.And Jager, do you really think I am such a cunning spider? Do you think I'll bite if you played in my "web"?By the way, I found a most humorous song. It would rather fit a few people on this board. But that is what you get when you spend time with Tripnotik, a whole lot of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slattern Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: Quote:Originally posted by Slattern: Far too many people, people with small minds and sorry souls, discount lust in comparison to love. I am curious why they have to be compared at all?Exactly. Each serves it's own purpose. And in each is a pure beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Dreamer, does biting cost extra?Slattern, we keep forgetting about the Puritans. Just keep saying "SEX IS BAD" while spanking that monkey in the closet, covetting your neighbors ... whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted January 28, 2005 Author Share Posted January 28, 2005 Well, as you should well know by now, nothing is free. But you may know that I have no more need for money. I have all the money I need or want to do all I need or want to do. So, the cost is something that is neither set nor tangible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Horrorshow Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Oh god now you're starting to talk like Timeslut or whatever the Vulcan is calling themselves these days.Oh and Biting always costs extra..unless you don't want to be bitten. Life is rough like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Whatever happened to a normal night of heavy petting and enjoyment of tantric method? For hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Lessee... Since I'm talking to Sakurako I'd love to put it in medically accurate scientific terms but unlike some I just don't know what the hell they are and won't pretend that I do. Sure women always love that stuff because they don't have the same equipment that men do. We're not built for indefinite ready-standby mode. We're built to cruise above the red line and launch when the opportunity presents itself.It's called blue balls and no that not a metaphor. And its uncomfortable. Now you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Tarot, that's what a condom is for.If you don't get it the real way... there's always the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarot Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 You really have no idea what Tantric sex is. Look it up, Pink Spice. Its not what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 What's wrong with using such methods in intercourse?It adds a bit of variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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