opnet [OpNet] A little note

[Vox Via]

I find it humorous that some novas who look like beasts, seem to think it is their calling to act like beast. I find it most amusing when they say, that it is their nature to act like a beast,on the grounds that they look like one. I do not see how this will achieve any form of enlightenment, but I do not walk there paths.

[Wakinyan]

Aren't you supposed to be a Terat? Instead of understanding or at least accepting your peers you just sound like a biggot.

[Damanor]

There are also some novas who look like beasts and don't act like them, and vice versa. While I don't know much about "enlightenment", if some novas think they have the way to get there, more power to them.

I can see the humor when the justification for their actions is that they look like a beast and have to act like one, but most of the time it's just not the case.

How do you know she's a witch?

She looks like one!

[Xeno]

It is observed that some have elements of beastly nature imposed with their eruptions while others engage in such behavior willfully.

It is suggested that, minimally, a distinction between these two conditions should be drawn before generalizations are applied.

There are more ways to enlightenment than denying one's nature. I hope.

[Sakurako Hino]

One's "enightenment", is another's "heresy".

A persons way may seem incorrect, but it works for that person. At least in the matter of understanding one's self.

One's soul on the other hand... that is a different matter. If one denies their soul and/or concience, they are indeed falling upon their more animalistic instinct.

If one believes that going down is the way to go up the ladder, they will not get anywhere.

[Hugin]

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Originally posted by Totem:
Aren't you supposed to be a Terat? Instead of understanding or at least accepting your peers you just sound like a biggot.

Not all Terats share the same views. Some of us are the understanding and lovable types. Others, such as myself are the more demanding and unpleasent types. And then, as you've seen, we have the occasional oddball.

[kestrel404]

Am I the only highly opinionated nova on this board that doesn't have a problem with Totem?

Maybe everyone here likes to pick fights with him because he's got a temper?

Personally, I'm getting tired of the 'Troll Totem' game.

[Tarot]

Its called karma, Al. You do rude to people and you get rude back in kind. Speaking only for myself, I got tired of the "Get Trolled By Totem" game first, then I realized something important. His impulse control issue might be a problem but its not my problem. He's an instigator. Once you realize that the whole game seems a little silly. And overlooking a dozen or so russian novels that was about the most most heavy-handed segue I've ever read.

The mosaic is finished now. My time is free again. No hurry but bring the book when you come.

[kestrel404]

Oh, good. Just in time too. I've been sequestered in my lab for a week trying to figure out a nasty polymer folding problem.

[Typhoon]

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Originally posted by Alchemist:
Am I the only highly opinionated nova on this board that doesn't have a problem with Totem?

Nope

[Vox Via]

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Originally posted by Totem:
Aren't you supposed to be a Terat? Instead of understanding or at least accepting your peers you just sound like a biggot.

And you sound short sighted. I never once said that this path is wrong. I only sated that is was rather amusing to me,and I do not see how it is right. I look like a human, should I strive to become more human,because that is the way I look?

But if you truly believe one should act based on the way one looks, then are you not a biggot yourself? Do you not believe that you are playing to stereotypes,fairy tails and propaganda? I will never tell you how to live your life, I will however ask you why.

[Vox Via]

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Originally posted by Alchemist:
Am I the only highly opinionated nova on this board that doesn't have a problem with Totem?

Maybe everyone here likes to pick fights with him because he's got a temper?

Personally, I'm getting tired of the 'Troll Totem' game.

I did not think of Totem when I posted. I was more thinking of the fact that you should not be trapped into thinking you act in a manor based only on how you look. I fail to see why beasts are anymore enlightened than humans.

[Wakinyan]

Because we are free. Because in our eruption our body turned from humanity allowing our minds to follow more easily. Those who still look human still think they should be human. No animal looks like me, at least no single animal. What am I? Am I human, am I warped, tainted Nova? I guess you should decide for yourselves I am over my self hate.

What I am is Totem and that is enough.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Totem:
What I am is Totem and that is enough.

Precisely.

Learn about yourself. Learn to live with yourself. Take it in whatever direction you wish.

[Singularity]

I have my own way of understanding myself and it works rather well. I accept what I am and I have gone far beyond my earlier expectations and imagination.

I do not go around telling people how to live just because I understand myself, a simple individual.

[Ghostwriter]

I like Totem!

I have opinions!

I'm a nova!

OOC: I accidently posted as Rhiannon Lewis... Oops. Please ignore.

[Damanor]

I like Totem, too. And he has a lot of musical talent.

Then again, maybe I'm not opinionated enough to dislike anyone. Yet.

[Long]

Heh Totem and I are Kindred spirits, he's a Griffin, I''m a Tiget that walks on two legs. We both know we aren't human anymore, and we accept it. I may pretend at being Ryu Hideyoshi now and again, but that's all just a game, I'm Long now and always. It's sometimes difficult to not give into the new/old instincts I have, (The same I would believe Totem has) but I am more than a beast, more than a Man. The best of both and then some as Aki used to tell me.

[Edward]

Interesting.

This is not what I expected to find here.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Long:
I am more than a beast, more than a Man. The best of both and then some as Aki used to tell me.

Its about being a nova, and being what you want to be.

Cull, what did you expect to find here?

[Vox Via]

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Originally posted by Totem:
Because we are free. Because in our eruption our body turned from humanity allowing our minds to follow more easily. Those who still look human still think they should be human. No animal looks like me, at least no single animal. What am I? Am I human, am I warped, tainted Nova? I guess you should decide for yourselves I am over my self hate.

What I am is Totem and that is enough.

Animals are free? I guess you can say that. Unless you look into the fact that most the animals that we call beasts do not learn from those who came before them. They fallow very narrow paths of life,that rarely changes,and tends to do so only under threat of death. But at least to me freedom is not the lack of comfort about who you are,but the ability to know and change it.

Yes, Totem the nova that will nail himself to a cross on command. I have been studying novas, for a long time.I have spent more time with novas wile you still looked human,than you have looked the way you do now. I did not bring up taint,on the grounds that taint is something that changes novas in many different ways.Your taint has happened to change you in the way it changed you.

I do not like you.I do not dislike you.I do not care about you. I simply state what i have seen you do.

[Tarot]

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Originally posted by Cull:
Interesting. This is not what I expected to find here.

Welcome to the club.

[Wakinyan]

I didnt say I was an animal I mean that because we are so changed that we are freed of the human experience more easily. Don not get me wrong I still enjoy some of the same things humans do but I do not believe that humans have exclusive rights to some of the things they do.

I would make the same arguement for someone who was pure light or say Copper or Titanium. It is as obvious as looking in a mirror that we are not human. It is harder if you still look like them though.

This is all one reason why I think that being able to dorm down is more a weakness than something helpful. It removes us from who we really are.

[Conduit]

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Originally posted by Totem:
I would make the same arguement for someone who was pure light or say Copper or Titanium.

Wait a minute is this about me?

[Wakinyan]

You are just a fine example.

While you still have a humanoid shape there is little doubt you are different. Do you think your form helps you accept that you have changed?

[Conduit]

Hmm. I'm torn on this. I could say that, because I wake up with it every day I've learned to accept it, but that is crap. Every nova wakes up with their...'novadom' every day. Am I in a different situation then others? Sure. Am I at an advantage or disadvantage? No.

When I first erupted I, like many new eruptees, freaked out. But I spent a lot of time figuring out who I was and what I wanted to do with that. I think that novas who have not changed in appearance might be able to ignore that they have changed on any level, while I was not able. I don't think necessarily that that is bad or that they are limited. It's different for everybody I guess.

[Jager]

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Originally posted by Totem:
This is all one reason why I think that being able to dorm down is more a weakness than something helpful. It removes us from who we really are.

Dorming is a tool, Totem. If you use it to hide from yourself, it can be very self-destructive. As with any tool, it is the manner inwhich its used that's important.

[Tarot]

What's the difference between 'dorming' (which I'm guessing means making your node go dormant) and just not pumping node juice? Also, has anyone else ever noticed all the sexual connotations the labels for novadom have? Just off the top of my head there's;

Erupting.

Pumping juice.

Mastering quantum.

Reality enticement.

Q- attraction.

VP allurement.

Dorming (a short step to the dom/sub thing)

... etc.

[kestrel404]

Dorming allows you to suppress some of your inhuman aspects, like quantum backlash and permanently active abilities (claws, metal skin, hypersenses). For novas who are comfortable and dependent on their superhuman abilities, it is like intentionally crippling themselves. For novas who are afraid of what they have become, it's like a crutch.

And you have a very dirty mind.

[Tarot]

Could a telepath or one of the really pursuasive novas get you to do it? Even if you didn't know how on your own?

Yes, I do. However I would like to point out that I didn't come up with any of those terms. I came up with "Chroma Oral" but that hasn't come into wide spread use yet.

[Lemmy Chillmeister]

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Originally posted by Long:
Heh Totem and I are Kindred spirits, he's a Griffin, I''m a Tiget that walks on two legs.

And I'm blue. You don't see me calling myself a smurf. You're a NOVA for fucks sake. Totem is Totem and not just a Griffin. Appearences mean dick all.

Totentaz looks like an uptight accountant with an excercise addiction. Anteaus looks like a walking fern. Apep looks like a stripper with scales. You think what they LOOK like actually means shit about what they ARE?


You get that you aren't human and that's halfway there brother. But you gotta stop talking about the outside. You may say "Oh, I know, I'm just kidding around" but fuck man, if you're saying it you're fucking thinking it.

I am Freezing Breezing All Seeing All Knowing Winter Of The Soul. How I look is just now. I want to change it I will. You want to change it, you will.

[Wakinyan]

Actually you are wrong Lemmy. How we look on the outside is an expression of what we are on the inside. Sure our appearance doesn't define us but it does help illustrate each unique expression of what we have or are becoming.

I figured you being Terat poster boy would know that.

[Lemmy Chillmeister]

Dude, you can change what you look like. You just got to work at it. Your body, your form is a canvas. Just whip out the brushes and start changing the shit you don't like.

[Wakinyan]

You have to change your mind with it. What if you don't want to? What if you like how you are? Terats always say evolve grow.. Why? What if you are happy as is. What if ignorance truly is bliss?

[Alex Craft]

'Cause stasis sucks.

[Wakinyan]

Maybe for you.

[Xeno]

In practice, staying as you are on one level generally requires some sort of adjustment on another as your environmental conditions shift, is it not so?

And maintaining constant transition is a static condition in itself, is it not?

There is nothing wrong with self acceptance, it is hoped.

[Wakinyan]

I don't want to sound racist here but the whole concept of self evolution/improvement/gain seems very..... White to me.

It just seems like another form of greed. You push forward no matter the cost or demands. It is all about yourself and nothing else matters in pursuit of it.

No one wants to stay where they are happy because the next hill is always greener and taller than the last or so they think anyway.

[Jager]

OH MY GOD Totem. Do you think anyone will listen to you?

[Walker]

I think that true growth and transformation has very little to do with western liberal notions of progress or nazi-esque super human theorizing.

Your mind, your brain, you, are constantly changing all the time anyway, makes sense to me that you put a bit of direction behind that change. I see the Teras notion of evolving as meaning you have more freedom to be yourself rather than conforming to something. Of course evolution isn't the best term really, and notions like seperate species don't even come close in my never very humble opinion.