Sailor OOC Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Can we get to wrapping NHC and Ghosts soon? The 15th is near. Also can we get a little time for improvements before we enter the new arc on the 15th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 You will.. sorry, I've been completely occupied with Mass Effect 3 this last week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hee...I hear you. I finished my first playthrough over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Was going to begin chapter 6 tomorrow.. but, I forgot about Mass Effect coming out this month, so I'm going to delay it another week or two.. no later then April however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 So can we hold you to April 1st at the latest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eingar Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Regarding the Scope extra ( http://www.rpgpost.c...928#entry286928 ) I'll be brutal. I don't like it, and for one very good reason. It bypasses the main reason to push for Q6+ : Mastery. Sure, Mastery does more: it ups the range and area, blah-blah. But let's face it, 80% of the reason we add Mastery to a power is the scope enhancement. Having a Scope extra purchaseable at Q4 basically means that a Q4-5 nova's quantum bolt can stack up against a Q6's. Worse, a Q4 nova's Armor or Forcefield, with Scope added, can shrug off the blast from a Q6 nova's Mastered Q-Bolt. I'm all for levelling a playing field, but not to the extent of allowing a high school football team to take on the Superbowl champions. A Q4 nova should be afraid of the Q6, not think "'meh, I have my FF with Scope, screw Caestus Pax circa 2012" Q6 is supposed to be a benchmark, the point at which a nova crosses the line from 'super-person' to 'demigod', with all the subtext such power brings. Mastery is a part of that benchmark's effect. Scope, if put into play, blurs out that mark, raises lower-Quantum novas to the level of people past the Q6 mark, and unbalances the game. In a game where Mastery is taken out, I could readily vote for Scope being put in in it's place. But in a setting where Mastery is obtainable and makes Q6+ something to strive for, Scope is little more than easy-mode munchkinism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Since this high power stuff I am unfamiliar with, I cannot offer advice/opinion regarding this, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hawkins Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I agree with Einherjar here. This extra adds nothing positive to the game, save for dramatticaly increasing the power of any nova really. This takes away from Mastery duplicating the primary effect but better in many ways it is cheaper on the whole, more effective as it can be bought much sooner for cheaper than mastery. Where scope truly shines is on powers like Armor, invulnerability, psychic empath quantum and social shield, any power that's always on . it takes 4 extras at q 8 to raise a level 1 power to the next rank. lets assume psychic shield is our base. I'm just going to go with 8 dots. it would cost 6 xp for scope 1 2 and 3 making it already over half again as powerful as mastery 2 that would be versus 25 xp for mastery 2 and the effect is weaker. on armor 8 6 xp brings it up to x4 effect nearly equal to mastery 2's x5 vs 36 xp for mastery 2. that's right 6/6/10xp and you balance a q5 against the power of a q8 ----------------------------------------------------- Even worse than that.... in my opinion, as written, the following is true of a q 8 pc I can buy quantum bult in theme for 3xp add scope 1, 2 and 3 to it for 3, 3, 2 xp now it is level 3 buy scope 4 for 5xp buy 2nd dot of Qbolt for 5xp 21 xp total for a 2dot lethal quantum bolt with scope 4 the damage formula= [qx32] + 128d10L That's [256] +128d10L for 21 xp and 3 qp a hit. Let's look at mastery First you have to have a number of dots for mastery equal to the q-min of the master -1. Let's go with mastery 2 so 7 dots. those seven dots in qbolt cost 66 xp. adding mastery 1 is 15 xp adding mastery 2 is 21 xp That brings the total up to 102 xp now the damage formula [qx10]+dotsx20d10L [80] +140d10L now let's look at this 102 xp for an attack that perfectly would do 220 damage L and cost nothing to fire or 21 xp for an attack that perfectly would do 384 damage L and cost 3 qp. That is rediculous in the extreme. I say this knowing the issues I've had crafting enemies to challenge the PC's but this extra will unbalance the game in the extreme as PC's will undoubtedly take it as well. considering the rules modifications in place on mastery, scope is too unbalanced, and unnecessary. It's pure munchkin, much as Ein already said, and totally unneeded in this game. -brought to you by one of the few open powergamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Varroxxian Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 The big problem with scope is that there are now a whole bunch of ankle-biter nova NPCs who can, would - and thus IC should - buy this extra. In this case, the PCs basically cease to be special relative to the rest of the universe. As a group, with all these unlimited new powers coming in, and this scope ... the existing PCs don't matter. Every PC in the game now looks alot like hundreds or thousands of other NPC novas out there (because scope is dead easy to buy, so lots of NPCs would have it). It breaks the fundamental balance of the game. End result - really boring setting. Everyone running around with essentially equal (or even better than) mastery level power (see Long's point about other extras and scope) ... boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Okay now I am going to weigh in now that I am understanding this. What were you thinking? This is indeed the biggest break of the system that could possibly happen! With the NPCs having access to this as well as players this arms race has reached a new stage. This is becoming a game of amassing power, not telling stories. Simple as that. Take this back. remove it from existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hawkins Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I have edited my post containing a new math exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Hm. Alex may have to take up permanent residence at her Jupiter factory site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karren Gaunt Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Gonna have to fifth (sixth, if max's comment is the fifth) Ein's comment here. Scope is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Fair enough... scope is removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Just a note.. I don't mind criticism, and am willing to make corrections when everyone thinks an idea I'm trying out is bad, but I do expect a person to be polite about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Krul, I didn't attack you with my commentary. I was just shocked about that particular power. To be honest though, I could have been less direct. If you were stating in general, then that is just something that has to be cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ling Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 384L was for a q8 nova....built up over time after eruption realistically that wouldn't happen. Ever. Now coming in with a bunch of points should from a story standpoint to think that waymunchkuns of munchkinania aside. I think it's more of a responsibility issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shosuro Miren Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 QF - Could I get a post from you in Epidemic when you get the chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shosuro Miren Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 WR - Is Darion's place considered secret? Specifically, would Darion be pissed off if someone came to his place as a representative of Puck? I figure Puck would know. Please let me know if he wouldn't know or if it's okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I'll work on it, but not tonight.. was posting for most of my own characters this evening, will work on cleaning things up and a few more posts tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I'm no longer comfortable with the power level of this game, or where we are going with it. I'm sorry, but as of today I am really pulling out both of my characters. I'm burned out on CoQF and what is going on. Honestly, I'm not having fun anymore. I wanted to continue forward, but I had painted my characters out of the plot preparing for an event that would have removed me from the site. This has left me with no clue as to what my future is with this game. Quite honestly, Kamiko is now not where I expected her to be at all. None of my original goals are even in reach and after one plot possibility left with Adrian, I really don't see anywhere else to go with Kamiko. Any further plots would be just going through the motions without any feeling. Mary was a rush job and no where near where she should be for an elite. She would be eaten alive by what is out there, and I don't want to have her just gather dust as she withdraws from the world or have her made into street pizza. I shouldn't have even made her in the first place. I'm sorry, but I'd better just call it now, because pulling out when Chapter 6 starts would just ruin possible plot threads. It's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRain Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 The place where Darion's holding the meeting isn't secret, no. He will have made sure everyone he talked to in Forbidden Fruits knew where he was planning on having them meet up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Sorry to see you go Kasumi.. but I understand the feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I need to consult with you, OF, on a matter of some technologies...and of technology in general as it relates to Matter Creation and the use of invention rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Send me a PM or drop into the chat then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonMax Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 PM sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Sorry to see you go Kasumi.. but I understand the feeling I just ask that my last wishes is honored. Kamiko left the universe to one where her mother was still alive, and Novas were not under the heel of Proteus. Then she decided never to return. As for Mary, she followed, and seeing her old friend again and knowing her only way home wasn't going back, she decides to stay. Seemed far better a place to be. Kamiko is still a young teenager who operates from emotion. Nova or not. For her to choose not to leave because she loved her mother so much wouldn't be that much, if anything out of character for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Now I feel like I got egg on my face. But now I can't go back. I just wish Krul or someone could have told me I needed more faith. I've just thrown away a character I had more of a connection with than any other on this site. For nothing. I'm sorry I let everyone down. I don't deserve a second chance now. Or ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karren Gaunt Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 So the Interludes did extend through August after all it would appear. Right? so what's the new paradign for thread making in Chapter Six? I got plot bunnies that have been itching to try and do some *dammage*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Let's just try to have fun... that's what I'm here for. BTW, working on a new avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 On a different note... any threads still active are free to continue if you have stuff you still want to do in them.. I'll add a few more threads of events over the next few days and during this weekend, been waiting to allow folks to decide what they want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Just a question then, did you want us to start threads again or do we have to get a hold of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Starting threads requires the involvement of an ST (including any of the Assistant ST's).. or my personal permission... if you have a good idea though, your likely to get permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 The problem I don't know what I can do. That's the problem. I'm stumped. If anyone has ideas let me know via PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I'm going to be posting for the GNS soon, in the next day or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor OOC Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I'm not in the GNS anymore. I'm with Nippontai. Been like that since the New Hope City thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Lupin Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Anything for the Terats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Fire Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I may have something in the works.. but I figured some of the Terat threads could continue for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shosuro Miren Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Krul - Just a note for On the Horizon. If the entire Nursery is moving to the island, Puck would have just given it to them So far as I had understood before, only Norman's faction was moving out there. The whole Nursery is fine, Puck would have no issue with it, but he'd never charge Bounty or Scripture for anything. Also....is there something that's supposed to be going on in the thread? I'm not sure of anything to post, as it seems like that was just a recap of what NPC's were doing in September and October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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