Menagerie Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I was tempted to send this question as a private PM to Totem, but I thought the benefit of others outweighed the possibility of offending him. Totem: Your physical form has been mentioned and documented several times here on the Opnet. I was wondering how or if you type your entries? Did you have a keyboard customized for you? If so, where did you get it? I apologize if this question has already been asked, but I assure you I ask with good intentions.I ask because you may have done research in this direction while I have not. I have an associate of mine that is severely in need of an outlet that is beyond verbal communication and whose hands are ill-equipped for delicate functions such as typing. I was wondering if you or anyone else had advice along these lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I can probably help you. I used to run a buisness that specialized in providing goods and services to Novas of unique physiological make-up. While Solar Solutions is now defunct, I still believe these services are vital to the greater Nova community.I would be more than happy to discuss your friend's problem with either him/her or yourself. I'm sure I could provide him/her with an acceptable solution.Let me know if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 What is the issue? Claws? excessive finger stregnth? Fat Fingers?Throw me a frickin bone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I am using a variety of items for my PC use. I go through a reinforced keyboard (Thanks again for the supply Prodigy) about once a month with the home PC. I have yet to find one that can withstand constant use or whenever I lose my temper. I also have a Sakurako custom, Body PC using Viasoft Opfice Voice/Eyelink Command System that I have been using for my Opnet and PC needs lately. The HUD responds to eye movement, dilation and blinking as well as Pseudo-AI voice recognition and commands. Overall it is by far the best system I use now. It does what I need it to and I am not likely to break it since it rests over my eye and loops the main unit behind my ear. She made the unit bigger than a standard handheld device thanks to my size. In exchange it can pretty much outperform most high-end PCs and Opnet devices. I hardly notice it when I wear it, the ergonomics are that good. I think I look a little to techno with the eyepiece on and glowing with screens of text, video and so on but I have to admit it works great. Thanks again Endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I now have the image of a techno-shamanic gryphon stuck in my head. I think I could make something to withstand constant damage out of memory metals and regenerative plastics. Instead of being so indestructible as to not be damaged by claws and strength, it would simply get beatten up, then get better. Depends on how much damage gets done by an Opnet session, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menagerie Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 Thank you. And thank you for sharing Totem. Some of these ideas are very helpful. Since someone asked concerning the state of my associate, please allow me to simply his condition and state that he exists in a semi-solid state...no bones and few organs to speak of. She has been forming a short-live flagellum that has been serving as his "hand"...unfortunately she has yet to illustrate any real degree of dexterity with the appendage, as such I'm not wholly convince that is the route to his future Opnet access. If this information inspires anyone, please feel free to suggest something. Mr. Rossi I may be in contact with you soon.Has anyone had any experience with the Eufiber solution to this problem? Somehow I thought that was how Totem was typing...it's good to know there are more conventional (or not) alternatives. I've been hesitant to work with Eufiber clothing in the past due to it's alternative uses, so I'm not too experienced with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 For a while I used a holographic keyboard, but that doesn't sound like it would work for your friend.How does he comunicate with you? Telepathic? Some sort of chemistry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Menagerie, if you can provide me with some basic information, I have had two associates approach me about helping out your friend in this situation.Two questions-Does the individual have some control over their neuro-chemical and general biochemical responses? If so, they think they can rig up chemical receptor alphabet and stimuli response system that would allow both synthetic voice communication and a voice response arm actuator for simple manipulations.What language would they like it in? My friend finds working in the Sino-Tibetan medium to be the most rewarding, but can also work in most Indo-European scripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Totem: I am using a variety of items for my PC use. I go through a reinforced keyboard (Thanks again for the supply Prodigy) about once a month with the home PC. I have yet to find one that can withstand constant use or whenever I lose my temper. I also have a Sakurako custom, Body PC using Viasoft Opfice Voice/Eyelink Command System that I have been using for my Opnet and PC needs lately. The HUD responds to eye movement, dilation and blinking as well as Pseudo-AI voice recognition and commands. Overall it is by far the best system I use now. It does what I need it to and I am not likely to break it since it rests over my eye and loops the main unit behind my ear. She made the unit bigger than a standard handheld device thanks to my size. In exchange it can pretty much outperform most high-end PCs and Opnet devices. I hardly notice it when I wear it, the ergonomics are that good. I think I look a little to techno with the eyepiece on and glowing with screens of text, video and so on but I have to admit it works great. Thanks again Endeavor. You know, the old Austin Powers line of "Sharks with frickin' LASER BEAMS attached to their heads!" line just came to mind for a sec. I certainly hope you are keeping the patches up to date on the voice recognition codecs. There is a new voice compression bug that patch reference #5022321 fixes. It also patches a bug that switches beg for smeg. It was put in by a disgruntled Viasoft Europe programmer. Not to mention said bug is a potential exploit problem.Finally, the laser has a tendancy to get dirty. It might cause the occasional error. The same thing you use to clean an optical mouse you can use for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menagerie Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith:How does he communicate with you? Telepathic? Some sort of chemistry?The rather delicate fact at this point is that she doesn't. Knowing what my associate is feeling at this point is the best way that we have to actualize even a simple form of communication. Quote:Originally posted by Jager:[QB]Does the individual have some control over their neuro-chemical and general biochemical responses?[QB]No more so than a Baseline at this point. Besides some somewhat major physical alterations, our subject seems trapped in less than Baseline (in function) body. Other systems in her body have not over-compensated as of yet, creating an unfortunate situation. That's been the major stumbling block that I've had for designing a system of communication. Jager: Expect a message from me soon. I'm doing my best to keep my associate's situation from being too public...I'll message you with what information I can give. Assuming the information you're requesting is in reference to this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machina Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 The freakish deformity hasn't been invented that I can't compensate for. There is nothing on this goddamned earth that I couldn't make to suit the needs of any mutant or fuckup you're apt to find, nova or baseline.Menagerie, your chum, or Totem, or Fenrir, or Sloppy Joe, or whoever else is free to take their problem to second best if that's what they want.If you want the most brilliant inventive genius that's ever walked the face of the fucking planet to custom build whatever your node could conceive of, you call me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Even if your gear is 1000 times better than Sakurako could ever come up with (which is giving you way to much credit) the customer service alone isn't worth the effort in dealing with you. Go spout it somewhere else Tourette Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Machina, Machina, Machina...You might build the toys, but I give better service. And as always service is key.After all, if you want shelf to landfill service, I am the best.Perhaps with better customer relation skills, you'd be a... minor threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menagerie Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 For better or for worse, I'm not sure if this thread just escalated to a competition. I will say this: I'm more interested in being able to help my associate than indulging a rivalry.As for both of you: I'd love to hear your suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machina Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I'll be the first to admit that I'm not sucking any cock, no matter how big the commission is, so yeah, Sailor Jailbait, I guess my "customer service" will never be able to stack up to yours. Thankfully, most people intelligent enough to need something from me in the first place won't be swayed by the feeble quivering of a-cup snack trays and "accidental" panty shots, so I figure that I haven't got too much to worry about. And what the fuck is your trip, Toto? Way to demean the little Nip tail by coming to her defense before she even had the chance to respond, herself. Her fucking boyfriend runs to her defense less than you do. What, is she fucking you, too? Must keep you on a very short to have you playing paladin to her like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased as punch that you finally found someone tech-savvy enough to work around the deformity that is your freakishly large, barbed, fire-engine red cock, but rope it in, for fuck's sake, nobody hear wants to have kind of visual forced on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 See now it isn't a matter of defending anyone when you go and prove my point with such wonderful posts as the one above. But sure I am defending her not because she is my friend. I am defending her because she does professional work and is a craftsman who cares about the end result and if her customer likes what she has done.Also, I think maybe if you are so interested in my penis however you should just keep it to your yourself. I am not going to support your homoerotic fantasies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Menagerie, I am a student of nova physiology. If you and your friend would like, I would be interested in coming by and seeing if I could help out. Maybe we could learn stuff from one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Menagerie: For better or for worse, I'm not sure if this thread just escalated to a competition. I will say this: I'm more interested in being able to help my associate than indulging a rivalry.As for both of you: I'd love to hear your suggestions. Agreed, let's not stink up the sandbox like a litterbox.Now, as for what's needed, what is the problem? Like I said before, I can't come up with a design before I know what I have to work around. Is it a problem like Totem's where he has claws, or is it some sort of size problem? What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machina Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I'm so fucking pleased that the rest of you are apparently independently wealthy and so gleefully altruistic that you'd be willing to do pro bono work for someone who presently exists only as a fucking theory.Some of us eat a lot of fucking ramen and peanut-butter and jelly sandwiches and are stuck drinking Pabst when they want Harp, though, so if the best man for this job is one who's willing to work for free, it sure as fuck isn't me, babe. The kind of quality I produce costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Then why do you think the device I designed for Totem is being researched for use by Quadriplegics at the Mayo Clinic? Trust me, the reason why the money flows for me is not just what I design and sell on the market, it's the good I do. It's called Karma, Machina. I do good, it returns to me, and I put out more in return.You live on the short end because you live the life you live.Of course... careful management of fluid and solid assets helps too. As Bruce Lee said, Be like water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machina Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 You know what else helps? Inheriting a fortune in assets, stock and technology from your rich nova parents. Unlike you, I was not born to this world with a vulvar orifice to stick the silver spoon in.Karma? You pureile little bitch, don't you dare fuck with me. Do you know what it's like to pay for anything? To work for anything? I worked my way through college on the GI bill and by spending my weekends building fucking summer homes for smug, greedy, well-fed rich people like your family, and the reason I'm dirt poor now is because I willingly accepted a job that payed a fucking tenth what I was worth even before I erupted because I knew it was the right fucking thing to do, and when I was released from that job they gave me a severance package that rivals the change you'd find floating around Alejandra's purse.Building things, even for free, requires materials, and materials cost money, and you know how you get money, when it wasn't handed to you on a silver fucking platter? You fucking earn it by working.And that's why everything you create will be only the palest shade of my invention, no matter how hard you try. Because you're motivated by wide-eyed, childish altruism and some infantile sense of do-goodery, whereas I have to work hard, I have to impress, I have to go above and beyond expectations, because if I do not do all of those things, I do not get to eat.Karma? Yeah. Really fucking easy to talk shit about karma when you don't have to earn a living like one of the little people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menagerie Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Endeavor: Like I said before, I can't come up with a design before I know what I have to work around. Is it a problem like Totem's where he has claws, or is it some sort of size problem? What is it? Quote:Originally posted by Menagerie: Since someone asked concerning the state of my associate, please allow me to simplify her condition and state that she exists in a semi-solid state...no bones and few organs to speak of. She has been forming a short-live flagellum that has been serving as her "hand"...unfortunately she has yet to illustrate any real degree of dexterity with the appendage, as such I'm not wholly convince that is the route to his future Opnet access.A little more is given in other posts, but I'm not sure what information you're wanting to know.ON the other topic:Machina: There is an anime known as The Sailors and the 7 Balls. The cyborg scene I think you will find very therapeutic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 ...This is... rather problematic.If there was some way to get some sort of bio-feedback system, this could work. But, the question is, how does this person communicate normally? By thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menagerie Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Oops. Sorry:,,Quote:Originally posted by Menagerie: Quote:Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith:How does he communicate with you? Telepathic? Some sort of chemistry?The rather delicate fact at this point is that she doesn't. Knowing what my associate is feeling at this point is the best way that we have to actualize even a simple form of communication. The subject is rather un-communicative. They are indeed thinking and feeling...but beyond some crude sign language our communication has been brief at best.I really feel that for all intensive purposes this should be addressed as a Baseline with an unusual condition....as my subject is resistant to developing more quantum abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hrm. Perhaps a laser grid matrix might help. A series of lasers lined up to read 3 Dimensions, can pick up on the movements of your friend, and read the gestures your friend is capable of making and read them out into a type of communication we can understand. The booth itself will surround your friend reading movements in all directions.Unfortunately, if your friend is quite intelligent, I may not give your friend very much of a vocabulary at first to work with.At best right now, it'd be something like whats used in scientific research with primates using a board with different symbols that represent words. Only in this case, we'd be reading gestures and translating them to words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Menagerie, what senses does your friend posess? Is it all five, a partial range, some extra ones? If you can find this out, it would make communication much easier, as we can use them to teach your friend new forms of communication.I suggest first teaching him morse code. It will be painfully slow and probably tiring to start, but he will be able to communicate any idea by spelling it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangent Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 I have to ask since it seems obvious. Has a telepath tried speaking to your friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menagerie Posted October 1, 2004 Author Share Posted October 1, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Tangent:I have to ask since it seems obvious. Has a telepath tried speaking to your friend?I actually hadn't pursued this option because I wanted to keep this issue in-house as it were. Also, I thought forcing another mind into my associate's might not be the most diplomatic of maneuvers. However, since you suggested it, we gave telepathy a try.We created a few and the results were a minor backlash. After recreating them and linking minds, we were able to make contact. However, such communication was difficult at best, not to mention a terse and constant struggle. From what's been gathered we may have larger issues than a non-communicative subject.Everyone: Thank you for your help and suggestions. Give us some more time to figure out my next course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Oh!! You are all so supporting and nice!! Who will make keyboard for Fenrir!?! Fenrir is tired and sicking of taking new ones from the WALMART every three days. Fenrir is breaking them all the time, with his mightly claws!! Who has a keyboard for Fenrir!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epicenter Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 That does it! i've got your solution fenrir.Get a scratching post. see? perfect!now if you could only be potty trained....i could market you as a pet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Menagerie, how's it coming? Any luck yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menagerie Posted October 7, 2004 Author Share Posted October 7, 2004 There have been complications that I was not expecting.We may be needing a more drastic solution than a keyboard alternative.We think that most of us would like to keep silent on the matter until it runs its course. Or not.No. We've not had luck as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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