opnet [OpNet] Fair is Fair.

[Charr]

<font face="Arcanum" color="#FF0000" size="7">I'm back!</font>

Just wanted to point out the obvious to you silly fuckers. Since "Brainless as a box of particularly stupid leeches stoned to the gills on intellect reducing absinthe" describes most of you.

Now. Whichever of you monkey steppin' and fetchin' morons were cut in on sending the most worthless gaggle of malcontented monkey whores - a charitable distinction - to ever insult the sensibilities of their betters my way...

Thanks. I was feeling a little peaked. Special forces are yummy. Give a shout and I'll send some nummies your way for payback. Any body else notice when you dine monkey you just feel hungry again an hour later?

Might just be me.

[Wakinyan]

Yay! Now where did I leave that sushi set I picked up for this occasion? I am sure it'll take a lot of Wasabi to overcome your assey aftertaste though Charrmander.

[Access]

Charr is just a cthulu wannabe. He needs to stop insulting people who he knows too little about.

[Wakinyan]

He's the answer to my snack problem.

[Charr]

Poor little Bandwidth. Still hiding behind the skirt of mommy and your supposed privacy? You can't insult novas by being ignorant of them even if they're so brain dead as to only see insults. For you I should translate that to "ig'nant" of them. Welcome to the realm of gods, pissant. Your skull isn't the fortress advertised. Especially true in your case.

First Codex and now Totem wanting to get kink and oral with me. Gosh I'm ever so popular!

[ronin]

Totem.

You've never actually seen Charr, have you?

Trust me. You don't want to eat him. Codex, on the other hand, might just have a really weird kink. So we'll leave that door open.

[Wakinyan]

Squid aren't pretty to look at but people still eat them.

Eating the heart of your enemy is a great honor. You should know that Ronin.

[ronin]

It's not an honor on your part, Totem. That practice is both to honor a worthy opponent and to gain the strength of your enemy by taking into yourself that most integral part of them.

So before you go chowing on Charr's heart, I recommend you ask yourself if that's what you want to be like.

And Charr is not a squid, Totem. He's a Cthuloid abomination come true. And I seriously doubt he is edible.

[Ghostwriter]

ronin, because you are the partner of someone I consider my friend, I won't reply to your remark with an insult about your own tastes.

However, I will say that I do not want to fuck Charr in any way, and my comment about eating him was in the heat of the moment.

[ronin]

I'm not made out of stone, Regan. I'm just ribbing on you. Even I don't take myself that seriously.

And for that matter, what's wrong with my tastes? Are you implying that my fuku-clad goddess is anything less than a magnificent catch, Regan?

[Ghostwriter]

That's why I'm not going to insult you about them.

[Charr]

You watched The Crow one too many times and question ronin tastes?

Such uncivil behavior from a Shock Trooper of the new-same-as-the-old fucking world order. 'Sides, at least Hino doesn't play out her sexual repression for the world, Innocence. Not that I'm suggesting anything improper about you and Totem. You're my favorites right after Zed.

But don't you think its time to work up to the "leaving the lights on while while you lay there catching sweat" stage?

[Singularity]

Charr, your armchair psychology is going to lose its edge if you keep wrapping it in such vulgar language and blatant trolling. You may even have a few gems of insight in the muck of your words, but people are going to stop looking.

Perhaps we should be asking you why you post here. Why do you try to provide advice under the pretense of an OpNet flame war? Were you unable to help someone else before, perhaps before your own eruption, so you are now trying to make amends here? Maybe deep down you wish someone was there for you after you erupted, hence you are becoming what you needed most in the past?

[Preston]

If any nutball babbles long enough, they will say something worth listening to. Charr is such a nutball.

Beneath those vacant, shark-like eyes is a petty, juvenile mind, people. He will try to push some buttons and piss us off for his own, sick little jollies. There is nothing more to him.

Pay him no mind.

Now, Charr and the word "fair" is worth a chuckle.

[Charr]

Close Frankie. So very fucking close the suspense was killing me. Then you spurted instead of carrying through and we have to wait another hour for you to get it up again. Don't worry. I'm sure it happens to every one.

Heh. While you're waiting on the philosophic wood to make a comeback take a quick look around.

Over there is Dr "I'm so smart I'm stupid" Troll.

Siggy "I'm not crazy you just suck" Pop.

Regan "I fucking hate these wankers but I'm terrified of being alone and in control" MacLachlan.

Neil "I'm passive aggressive but you're an asshole if you notice" Preston.

The Mighty "I macked a subway train and that's evolution" Metropolis.

The list goes on. Only the nova that erupted into a fucking muppet has even a clue who he is. What the hell is there not to make fun of?

Shit, it took months for that whiney little bitch Totem to get to the point of listening to what people were saying without running back to grandpop for a little herbal medicinal or his "friends" to get a pat on the head. Sure he got jerked off every other second by the BSBA "if we all ignore it then maybe it will just go away while we pray for miracle so we don't have to kill the poor bastard" brigade but is that an explanation or an excuse? There's one messaed up fucker that doesn't have any time to spare. Yeah sure, let me sugar coated it for Injun Joe so he could ignore it like he did every other nova that tried to get through to him that wasn't trying to give him a handjob.

Its the simplest thing in the world, Frankie. I do it because the rest of these "nice" novas would rather watch you roast in hell on your juice than let their little fantasy worlds get altered even a bit. They don't really give a shit about you. Why the hell would I want to be like them.

More to the point why would you want me to be like them. Maybe you can shit A-bombs and just dab a tissue afterwards. Lots of nova ain't so lucky. And as much as these twisted little bastards love chattering on about making things worse, I'm not buying that from a bunch of spineless fucks that use that as a reason why they don't have to get off their erupted asses and do something about it themselves.

[Vox Via]

How do I put this nicely. Them being wrong doesn't make you right. You having the ability to do something doesn't give you need to do it,or even the right to do it. I see killing as wasteful,and messy task. It rarely bring about anything and more often than not it brings the things you want the least. So, I warn you to think before you act. As just as you can kill, you can be killed yourself. That is something I would hate to see.

[Singularity]

How wonderful, Charr, you are our father figure who showers us with his tough love. No, I do not buy it that you are helping people only out of the kindness of your heart. Even when you are proclaiming your want to help you still slip in base attacks on the very novas you are helping.

No, Charr, there is something else inside of you driving this behavior forward. You say you are at peace with what you are? That is wonderful, have a cookie and join the club. I get to "shit A-bombs," be labeled a weapon or a tool, and I really do not care. I am more in touch with every piece of my body and psyche than anyone I know and you do not hear me touting my self awareness with pontificating, pop psychology and OpNet trolling. Cut the superiority crap, it is defeating your argument.

Since it appears to be in vouge, I will make something abundantly clear: I detest your insults and aggravation of the good people here. I hold my tongue because they are capable of defending themselves, but if you keep this up you had better hope Totem or Codex get you before you see me. They might be able to do things to you I cannot, but their anger is hot and burns fast. My temper smolders, Charr, and it is patient. What I have for you will not be over quickly.

[Charr]

Thanks for proving the point. Nicely obliging of you. Faith is justified once again.

Now stop being such a little fucking whiner Frankie. Ask and answered. Unlike most I don't consider the fact you've never been anything else as proof positive you could be anything else. Just continue the life you started with birth and your career as a useless fuckup.

[Singularity]

Cute, Charr, very cute. It was possible that you sat "higher" than all of us, but you are just dragging yourself down into the muck you claim to be above.

Please, if you truly had enlightenment you would not be so ready to brag about it to others. You are a poseur for self-awareness, Charr. Keep spouting your drivel if you wish, but at least the truth is out in the open.

[Charr]

Christ, Frankie. Whitey was the only one stupid enough to pull this silliness and think it would pass. Having some problems at home?

Heh.

I don't answer the conflicting voices chattering away in Whitey's mind and won't waste the time with yours either. Try to make it at least appear to be based on something I said. I might still ridicule you but at least you'll have a shot at something that can't be taken away by the sick fuckos here, the chimps you slum with or even me. Not a certainty of course but a decent shot at it.

You got to pace yourself, Frankie. I'm here for the long haul and you're already showing the signs of strain. So much for nigh invulnerability.

[ronin]

Franklin, there's a saying that gets taught to a lot of children in the states. Maybe you've heard it. It goes something like;

'Sticks and stones may break my bones,

but words will never hut me'

Now, I know for a fact that sticks and stones can't hurt you. Did you trade vulnerabilities or something?

It'd be swell if everyone could quit motherfucking each other long enough to get something done, but as long as everyone is posing and threatening violence, let me be the first to say it.

Put up or shut up.

I don't believe for a second that you're a warrior, Franklin. Some penitent bully I'll buy, but never a warrior. Strength and speed and endurance, nuking stretches of desert in the middle of fucking nowhere, those are all swell party tricks, and any one of them could be replicated by hundreds of other novas. But between you, Codex and Totem I've seen a whole lot of dick-wagging, but less combined effort than it takes me to prepare ramen.

Consider this a firm reminder that if you were serious about killing or even attacking Charr or anybody else, you'd stop threatening like the upperclassman thug in an after-school special and just fucking attack.

[Great Monster C]

I am not in my normal jovial mood so I'm going to touch on an issue I normally avoid. The subject of violence.

Dr. Troll, Officer Preston, Singularity and all of you others lambasting Charr I just want you to know that I am sorely disappointed in you.

Charr commited murder and by the laws that you and I choose to embrace he has commited a vile act that must be answered for.

Have you done anything? No. You sit and threaten and debate. You engage in conversation with him like it was simply a matter of differing opinions. You are agents for good, agents for change. You are either law enforcement officers in a jurisdiction where a crime was commited or members of an organization dedicated to making the world a better place, often through the control and manipulation of novas who are dangerous to the world at large. And still you sit and engage in meaningless conversation trying to get him to speak to you, to acknowledge your points like this was Debate 101.

I have chosen my path in life due to my love and my ability. I embrace where and what I am. I am a lobbyis. Therefore I act like a lobbyist. You have chosen to be protectors. I suggest you act like it.

[ronin]

For once, GMC, you and I are in perfect accord.

[Singularity]

It seems, Charr, we are at another impasse. You might have a clue when it comes to understanding ourselves, but I believe you are missing the point. Granted, you believe the opposite, hence the problem. It is not strain, it is me being tired of participating in the "circle jerk that turns the world." I do not need to convince you of anything to sleep at night nor do you me.

Ah yes, ronin, leap into another conflict to sermonize your understanding of the issue.

Put up or shut up coming from someone who has leapt into flame wars without abandon? Dick-wagging comments from someone I clearly remember spouting off about meeting long dead celebrities or proudly proclaiming himself combat incarnate? You are not the only one making observations.

So you do not think I am a warrior? Well congratulations, I am impressed with your ability to read exactly what I mean when I say "I am tired of fighting." Why is this some kind of revelation to you? Pointing out the basic truth that I (and others) are walking destruction is not a proclamation that I am some great warrior. Now even if we ignore that, your statement is a case of hubris. Alexander the Great, Charlemagne, Saladin, and numerous other warriors and generals never had the arrogance to flat out proclaim others to not be warriors. The only one that comes to mind who acted like an arrogant jackass was Patton, and he won battles through attrition, not skill. Have you not noticed the wiser people become the less they pass judgment on others?

And putting my money where my mouth is regarding Charr... have I said I am going to hunt him down? Did you forget my own contributions to the discussion regarding vigilantism or were you too caught up in that situation to see everything that was going on? I do not believe in arbitrarily hunting someone down just because I am displeased with who or what they are. What I tell him are not threats, only facts. Threatening is pointless, something I thought a great and wise master of combat would already know.

Look, ronin, one thing has stayed constant in my life: I do not give a shit about what people think of me. Unlike a few of your comments, I am not out here saying I have the magic answers for everyone. I understand me and I accept who and what I am. And like Jager says, I am the one who has to live with myself. You seemed to have gotten one of my basic points earlier, try to pick up on the rest before coming down to see us mortals.

Sorry, Great Monster C, I have not been given the mandate to hunt down Charr, and I am not a dog to be used to hunt others down.

[Preston]

GMC, who says I'm not doing anything? It isn't like I can just go out, hit up the local snitches and find Charr's hidey-hole.

Charr's situation is an ongoing investigation and search. Please remember that there are those of us who chose to follow the law and respect civil rights and liberities. For me, this is not just a matter of finding him and killing him. It is a matter of upholding the what I feel is right. I am not going to toss the Constitution and Bill of Rights for the likes of him.

[Wakinyan]

I know Preston can watch him. I do as well. When I choose to strike I will. I think now it has just become a contest of watchers to see which will move first. I see you Preston and I know you see me and what I intend. That thread gets closer every day.

[Preston]

Totem, you do not want to cross that line. I know Charr gets under your skin, but talk to some of the people you really love and care about. Talk to them about what you want to do. I hope they can talk you out of it.

Butchering Charr is not the answer. If anything, it allows him the last laugh on you. It is not a matter of what hell he deserves, but the fact that you deserve so much more than what killing him would accomplish.

[Wakinyan]

Maybe. For as hard as I try I cannot see past that moment. I don't think I want to subconsciously. But these are things that must be done. If you keep it simple you have to understand that.

[ronin]

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Originally posted by Franklin 'Singularity' Alden:
So you do not think I am a warrior? Well congratulations, I am impressed with your ability to read exactly what I mean when I say "I am tired of fighting."

That stands to reason. I mean, you've been at it so long.

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Now even if we ignore that, your statement is a case of hubris. Alexander the Great, Charlemagne, Saladin, and numerous other warriors and generals never had the arrogance to flat out proclaim others to not be warriors.

Aside from the fact that such a statement is a matter of pure conjecture on the part of an uneducated man, it's also wrong. Read a book, Franklin. Alexander the Great makes me look like Norman Borlaug.
I notice you also cautiously omitted Temujin, a notorious egomaniac who successfully conquered the greater portion of the known world.

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Have you not noticed the wiser people become the less they pass judgment on others?

Do you feel personally insulted that I said you're not a killer, Franklin? Do you feel somehow wronged that I don't include you in a notably short list of brutal, warmaking bringers of death?
Telling you you're not a warrior isn't a judgement, Franklin. I was pointing out to you that you make occassional threats you seem unprepared or unwilling to delive on. Don't believe me? Watch;

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I hold my tongue because they are capable of defending themselves, but if you keep this up you had better hope Totem or Codex get you before you see me. They might be able to do things to you I cannot, but their anger is hot and burns fast. My temper smolders, Charr, and it is patient. What I have for you will not be over quickly.

That's a threat, Franklin. You might couch it in vague rhetoric, but it's a threat. That's why I said what I did, Franklin. It wasn't judgement, it was a warning. You're not a warrior. Charr is. He would eat you alive. So be careful with that mouth of yours. It's going to get you into trouble.

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And putting my money where my mouth is regarding Charr... have I said I am going to hunt him down?

Right up there.

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I do not believe in arbitrarily hunting someone down just because I am displeased with who or what they are. What I tell him are not threats, only facts.

Oh, my, how silly of me. When someone else threatens, that's a threat. But when you, Franklin, threaten someone, it's not a threat, because you plan to follow through.
Which, aside from the fact that's hypocritical and fucking crazy, it's inaccurate, seeing as how you haven't delivered on anything you've said.

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Look, ronin, one thing has stayed constant in my life: I do not give a shit about what people think of me.

I don't know if that's a lie or if even you don't know how wrong you are.
Ask yourself why you keep responding, if you really don't care how I or anyone else feels.

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Unlike a few of your comments, I am not out here saying I have the magic answers for everyone. I understand me and I accept who and what I am.

I have the answers for everyone? Franklin, where in the world did you get that idea? I don't even have my own answers, let alone everyone else's. I'm just a traveler, someone trying to figure things out. I've got some ideas, to be sure, but my ideas don't even apply to 999 novas out of 1000.
I'm glad that you have accepted who and what you are. Let's see if you're still serving the agendas of baselines and playing bodyguard for Codex while flagellating the trifling ills you committed in your youth five hundred years from now.

[Singularity]

You are missing the point, ronin, and you are getting adpet at quoting out of context or blatantly ignoring the context of a quote. I will address this one point to make it clear: you call what I said to Charr a threat and I call it a factual warning. Take it anyway you wish, but you are approaching this without the full picture.

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Originally posted by ronin:

I have the answers for everyone? Franklin, where in the world did you get that idea? I don't even have my own answers, let alone everyone else's. I'm just a traveler, someone trying to figure things out. I've got some ideas, to be sure, but my ideas don't even apply to 999 novas out of 1000.

I'm glad that you have accepted who and what you are.

Now we are back to my original point. You are full of hubris and assumption, ronin. Your posts carry a consistent undertone of supposed wisdom and understanding, holding it over all of us. Yet when someone calls you on it, you bring up disingenuous self-depreciation and then return to your superior attitude the next post, if not the next paragraph. It is like you hype yourself up as much as you can but throw in that calculated caveat so we cannot hold your attitude against you.,,

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I don't know if that's a lie or if even you don't know how wrong you are.

Ask yourself why you keep responding, if you really don't care how I or anyone else feels... Let's see if you're still serving the agendas of baselines and playing bodyguard for Codex while flagellating the trifling ills you committed in your youth five hundred years from now.

And here is the assumption part I was talking about. ronin, you really do not have a clue about why I do what I do. The assumptions and inferences you have made about my life and my choices are far from the mark.