N News Service Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Terat Massacre in Boston!!Earlier this evening Boston's novaphile nightclub, The Quantum Fountain, was a scene of terror and death this evening. The Teragen terrorist known only as Charr appeared suddenly and left 12 dead and 39 injured in a killing spree that lasted only three minutes. "It was terrifying", survivor and club regular Thomas "Fabulous" Meeks said, "He appeared, he said horrible, awful, things and then he...He..." Mr. Meeks was unable to continue.Boston police have already seized the clubs security tapes so information is sketchy as most survivors seem to be suffering from shock. How Charr entered and left the premises undetected remains a mystery. More details will be provided when available.>>>>>more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charr Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 This is one of those good news / bad news moments.The good; a "bad" nova was open minded and tried it your way Prestor. And may I be the first to point out that's more than you ever fucking bothered to do before inflicting judeo-christian-bullshit-meets-secular-zip centric-fantasy on the rest of us. Thus bringing us to the bad, for zip apologists like you anyway. The chimps in your preserve are the same as the ones in the wild. They couldn't handle the truth without two thousand years of poorly constructed lies piled so high as to obscure the truth.Ashnod said it but oh no, she had to be an elitist. Prodigy explained it to your dumb ass but he was just wrong, right? Ronin, Apep, fuck the list goes on. Even Innocence had a glimmer of the truth when she talked about "passing for human," which is unbelievable as fucked up as that poor bitch is. Nope, uh uh, none of them could be right because you had faith.:snicker:Maybe this was the exception that proves your rule. Let me know when you've restocked the chimps and we can try the experiment again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Very soon Charr it will be you or I. Come back with all the insults or snappy patter you like, it doesn't make a bit of difference. I will kill you if it is the last thing I do on this Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Good God! What the Hell are you thinking Charr? What the hell is wrong with you? Did you do this just to make a point or something? Why would you do something like this? You are sick, sick, sick. Say hi to Caestus when he comes to make a street pizza out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I think, Interceptor, that Charr was making a point. Preston has been going on and on about how Novas and baselines can coexist peacefully and to the benefit of both parties. Charr decided to illustrate his argument to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan:I think, Interceptor, that Charr was making a point. Preston has been going on and on about how Novas and baselines can coexist peacefully and to the benefit of both parties. Charr decided to illustrate his argument to the contrary.That's what I gathered. He certainly showed him I guess, the sick bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 And I will illustrate to him how Novas cannot coexist peacefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charr Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Interceptor; now that I look back on it, I distinctly remember thinking "Where's a nova like me go to get a little action in this fucking town."Totem - you have illustrations? Honest injun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Charr:Interceptor; now that I look back on it, I distinctly remember thinking "Where's a nova like me go to get a little action in this fucking town."What goes around, really goes around Charr. Try to keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I guess the illustrations will be based on whatever color your blood turns out to be.I would assume you don't have a scalp but perhaps your Carapace will suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 It seems that you must now evade the police, T2M will soon find and no doubt attempt to bring you to justice.Why did you feel the need to go to such extremes, surely you could have started a minor bar fight to illustrate your point. You spread the message that all Teragen are remorseless killers, do you think that Mal will be happy with this? You may not find it so easy to find a safe house to hold you under the circumstances.Totem if you feel you need back-up then I will offer my services to bring this individual to justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 What makes you think that Mal, or the Teragen, will have any problems with this?If I read their outlook correctly, "Anything Goes."Put another way, I've never heard a Terat say that another Terat's actions were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith:Put another way, I've never heard a Terat say that another Terat's actions were wrong. Fine.Narcosis was flat-out wrong to wear that hideous peasant blouse/black mini combo to the Amp Room this Thursday last. It was awful and made her look positively dreadful.Are you happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Monster C Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Splendid, another psychotic in our midst.I cannot fathom how limited your understanding must be if you try to prove a point using death and terror. You are below the least of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 You sick fucking bastard, Charr.I hope you rot in fucking hell, you worm-ridden piece of shit.I pray someone - anyone - kills you soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I've been there and seen it first hand.No one should ever suffer and die like that. I can't imagine a reason that will ever explain it to me, as to why this had to happen.I don't know what this had to do with Teras. All it looks like to me is as if something evil looked down into the world and had its way.Then, there was the looks on the survivors' faces. I won't forget that.I was ashamed to be a nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singularity Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 This surprises me Charr, I never expected you to make a point like this. Seems more like grandstanding than philosophy.I think you have let your little Cthulhu complex go too far for anyone to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Via Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Would you like to see how many novas I could kill who do not fallow my path,Charr?Would me killing you,or anyone else make me right?You crossed a line, from firey vengeance to peaty hate.If you want to see how right you are,and how right I am. Maybe we should solve it your way? Would it give you pleasure to watch me die?Would it be fun being killed by me?Go forth and play in your own graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.T. Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I got to thinking, don't ask me why or how.But why do we pity the dead?Why do were see death as such a horrid thing?Would you want to live in a world devoid of death?Maybe just devoid of sudden death?I say to you, look onto the dead and remember you could be with them in a blink of an eye.Embrace life. Live everyday as if it was your last.You never know it just may be.Lastly will vengeance bring back the dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Not all of the Teragen support needless violence, just because humans are beyond monkeys doesn't mean that they go out of thier way to kill them just to make a point.Now remember the Teragen refer to the humans as monkeys at times... only they are monkeys with guns. Don't trust everything you hear on N! Prime. Not all Novas have bullet proof skin. I doubt Mal and Co. would want too much conflict to start just because some unwise nova had a temper tantrum.Violence may not bring back the dead but it's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Quote:Templar: Not all of the Teragen support needless violence...No? Name one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Via Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Name one?Troll, are you blind, or just fallowing corporate propaganda? I do not support mindless Violence. In fact you support more than I do.How long have you been a nova?How many people have you killed?I have been one for 12 year, and after the hour as being a nova,I have not raised my hand in anger on a living cruture.Nor have I killed anyone.What about you?Can you say the same?Are you hands as clean as mine?Oh before you start up about not fighting, or not going into dangerous places, that is not true.I have saved a great deal of lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I know my past and how much blood I've spilled, thank you.So, am I to understand that you both are a member of the Teragen? If so, are you willing to say that Char was wrong? How about that he should be stopped, arrested, and/or killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vox Via Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Troll, should I quote myself from this very thread?It is hardly a page above you asking to name one Teragen. I think his actions are not worthy of nova.I would wish him to stop.But arresting and or killing him, then he is in the same boat as you.Your hands are no more clean than his. If I place him in a cage, would you go into one? Or, if I kill him, would you kill yourself,or let another do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 In other words;You don't like what he did, You think it was wrong, but you don't want to stop him and you don't think anyone else should either.Is that a fair restatement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastian Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Preston overreached himself. He told his baselines that he could defend them, and he lied. He failed, in as much as he has failed to understand himself as a nova.Charr showed us this.Was it brutal and ugly? Yes, but is there any other way to make you understand? It isn't like so many hear have not tried. Talk only goes so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charr Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 The police and T2M is after me?!Oh no! Whatever will I do??Heh.Templar, I am so disappointed. Neil and Innocence have excuses; he's been lied to his whole life and Innocence still buys yoopee brand. They look and see what they're told to see. You know better. I took a day trip to Oz just for Prestor, so in exchange his pet zips got to take a day trip to reality.Now they know the truth. I'm told that sets you free.Hehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Cherry Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 A "base-line"person sets a bomb off in a mall, killing tens and wounding dozens.A nova kills tens in a night club.Tell me how these actions are any different? Tell me what lessons they teach?Surely they do not teach any lesson we have not already learned in the past five thousand years.Charr is no more a teacher than, MacVie, Kanzinsky.He is just a boy lost in the body of a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Troll, I for one do not support needless violence. You might wish to be careful though when using language such as 'needless'. Perhaps Charr thought what he did was very necessary. Do I agree with what Charr did? No. I don't think it was particularly useful to our cause and I fear any polarizing action that occurs without consideration for the future. How many Novas might heed the Utopian call because Charr acted as he did? How far did he tip the scales in the upcoming war against us? Those are the things I think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Char,I did not say that what you did was wrong, nor that I think that you should be held responsible by human law. I said that I would hunt you down if Totem needed assistance... merely because I belive it would be a challenge, and I am always up for a good challenge.Dr. Troll,Just because Teragen belive that they are beyond human law and are nations unto themselves, doesn't make them all blood thirsty killers... not every Teragen member is like Geryon.And no... I am not Teragen, I have no affiliation that I have currently decided on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I just realized that I left something unsaid because I thought it was obvious, but you should never let something go unsaid if it is meaningful. And it is, at least to me.I also believe that Charr was wrong to do what he did because we should not impose ourselves upon the baseline psyche in such a way. However, I would like to note that I consider Charr as morally wrong as I believe Preston to be. As far as I am concerned, they are morally equal in that regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Prodigy, Would you object if Preston and/or his allies (cops, Utopia) act to hold Char acountable for his actions? Would act to help Char? Do you think that other members of the Teragen should/should not help him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Do baselines have the right to defend themselves against Novas? Do they have the right to call upon support?Should not the opposite hold true as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 What, exactly, had those baselines done to novas that they deserved such punishment, Prodigy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I was refering to Charr, and others who share his views, defending themselves against baseline hunters.And yes Troll, I do believe a number of like-minded Terats would flock to assist Charr, much as they have assisted Gauze and Geryon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Quote:James 'Prodigy' Meehan:I was refering to Charr, and others who share his views, defending themselves against baseline hunters.So a group of random people in a nova-fan bar count as baseline hunters?Char has been very upfront about his modivations. He did it because he could, to show that no one could stop him.Quote:James 'Prodigy' Meehan:And yes Troll, I do believe a number of like-minded Terats would flock to assist Charr, much as they have assisted Gauze and Geryon.Of course they will, but they shouldn't.If you punish the baselines for hunting you, and for NOT hunting you, then the ONLY option open to them to try to make you stop is to come after you.If the Teragen is serious about supporting Geryon then they should do something about Char, not that I expect them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Let's make this abundantly clear. I am not speaking of Charr's actions in Boston. I am speaking of the hunting party that will be forming up because of those actions. He has his right to defend themselves against that group.So, you see a moral difference between Charr and Geryon and Gauze? You perhaps find Geryon and Gauze as morally defensible? Otherwise why would it be acceptable to support Geryon but not Charr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 The right to defend himself? Well, survival instinct is like that.The question should be, what aid will his fellow terats offer in his defense?Such aid is a tacit endorsement of his actions.For the curious:Geryon's and most of NV's actions, no matter how horrific they may be perceived, are political actions. A baseline intitiates an action against a nova, or novakind, and NV retaliates.Until now, that was Charr's MO.I am curious as to what crime the novaphiles at the QF committed against novas? Is bad taste and character misappropriation punishable by death now?Presonally, I learned my lesson a few years back when the Teragen murdered several of my baseline and nova associates. I shut down my humanitarian assistance business and minimized my profile.Next time they have a problem with me, all they have left to attack is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Quote:James 'Prodigy' Meehan: So, you see a moral difference between Charr and Geryon and Gauze? You perhaps find Geryon and Gauze as morally defensible? Otherwise why would it be acceptable to support Geryon but not Charr? Moral difference? No.Pollitical difference? Big time.Geryon is trying to influence the pollitical process. What he is trying to do is to get baselines to not oppress novas. That message will get destroyed if his followers back Charr's actions. If the Teragen is serious about Geryon's message then they should police their own. If you want the power, then you have to take the responsibility that comes with it.Prodigy, what do you suggest be done about Charr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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