opnet [OpNet] What do I do?

[Y.T.]

I am they hand of justice, cold impatrial.My blade strike down onto those with out hate or compasion.I do not seek glory, adventure, or vengance.I do what must be done.I do not seek out power,fame or money.I overthrow cults,govements.I change the corses of nations.I steal and break crowns.I free,and enslave the masses.I am a hero, but not in the way you know the word.

I am an Elite.I will never be clean.I will always have red hands.But threw my sins, I will spare the youth of the world the horrors of war.No longer will the chiefs of the world think they should use their children to fight over the lines of a map.If I die,fighting for a flag that is not mine,I do so knowing that it wasn't me it would be someone else son,daughter,brother, sister father or mother.I know if it wasn't me killing for that cause, it would be someone who would have to look into themselves in the mirror for the rest of their lives.I can see into my own eyes and I see no shame, or fear.I see no sorrow,nor worry.I see me.CLear calm, and ready to fight in any cause that is worth fighting for.

That is what I do.This is what Elites do.

[ronin]

A fine idea, but don't you feel you may be paitning with too broad a brush? Helping everyone impartially simply because they are in need works fine in theory, but fails utterly in implementation.

And you'll never eliminate war, YT. Don't be so damn naive. As long as there are warriors, there will be war. Unless you plan to kill me, many people who patronize this forum and yourself, I'd say you have some scaling back to do.

Still, keep up the good work. I'll be watching out for you to cross the line.

[Y.T.]

And if the time comes when I am in war facing you,and not a platoon of children no older than 20,and some not even old enough to shave daily.I would call that a victory.

Would I call facing you on my own a war?

[ronin]

You should. We'd probably cause enough damage.

[Y.T.]

I would have to say that I like you.Well, I agree with you is a better term.

Would you care to meet face to face?I do mean in a civil way.I do think we could have a lot of things to talk about.

[ronin]

I'd be glad to, but only after I've attended to some rather serious and unpleasant business. I'm afraid that my current situation precludes my ability to travel, but only for a short while longer.

Look me up when I'm free.

[Jager]

I see it as the ultimate in Capitalist thinking:

As long as I can pony up the money to hire an elite, I don't have to convince my people to fight for me.

The elite comes in, kills my enemies, cowes my oppostion, and accomplishes my goals with minor risk to me.

Elites don't limit war, YT, they expand it. Very Bad has his choice of contracts, as do you. Why? It aint because you are ending war, or making the world a safer place. Its because more and more folks feel they can solve their problems by having an elite come in.

And, who can afford to hire an elite?

So, next time some poor sods decide that they have no choice but to take up their AKMs (thank you, China) and guns down the local security troops because the pay is crap, and they have no other options besides starving to death, I will think of long-suffering YT.

Vive la Revolutione!!!

Wait, that ain't going to happen. Poor people can't hire Elites, but large mining concerns can.

[Ashnod]

I agree with most of the points Jager has brought up.

[Ian 'Very Bad' Blakely]

Well Jager, I'm about to agree and disagree with you. Yes, we expand war in the fact that we, in theory, allow a greater number of individuals to weild force by proxy. But, not just any Tom, Dick, or Ahmed can plunk a few million down on the desk of Lady Devries and expect some avatar of destruction to visit his enemies. Devries exists because of extremely talented lawyers that have allowed us great leniency in business policies, but that leniency does have it's limits. Taking assasination contracts, working for rebel groups against recognized governments, these are all activities fraught with peril and are looked upon with great hesitency.

Also, we do limit war in focus. Frontlines of conflict hundreds of miles long and leaving a wake of utter destruction that destroys the landscape for miles around, this is becoming less common. We focus on more contained targets and more contained destruction. War as a profit industry calls for a different goal than War as a political tool alone.

[Y.T.]

How is the view from your tower Ashnod?Can you see those on the ground below you?You have no place condemning anyone.You do not claim responsibility for anything but your own actions.Those action that were caused by your words are not your fault.

Jager, I am not so nieve to think that my line of work wile bring about Eden.I do think I may stop hell from coming here.

As for the miners and such.I am no saint, but where is Utopia,you or anyone else fighting for the poor?I am an Elite, I am not God.

[Sir Gaedal Glas]

Elites are their ilk are the next new shiny gun with a hefty price tag. Some sod with more coin than sense will feel the need to have one just in case his neighbor should feel the same. And once you accept that then you might as well buy the damn thing today because you know in your heart its only a matter of time before you neighbor does.

O'course there is the theory of owning your very own big bad giving a man the feeling of an extra few inches in the right spot but that's too much for the contemplating of. It brings to mind the image of Miss Stone Cold herself doing nastiness with pot bellied petty dictators and the like.

[Ghostwriter]

Screw you, Y.T. Utopia is trying to keep the peace you Elites seem intent on breaking. I don't see you many of you Elites building homes for the homeless or cleaning up nuclear waste.

Don't speak of what you don't know.

[Ian 'Very Bad' Blakely]

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Originally posted by Regan 'Codex' McLachlan:
I don't see you many of you Elites building homes for the homeless or cleaning up nuclear waste.

Don't speak of what you don't know.

And you do that very well Ms. McLachlan. So, how about you and your companions stick to that of which you know? And I and my companions will stick to that which we know.

[Ghostwriter]

I know all about what you Elites do, especially DeVries ones. Remember, Totentanz killed Slag, and Pursuer killed Warlady. The only one I've ever met who was worth more than the dirt under a snake's backside is Singularity.

[Y.T.]

I have been across the world, Mclachlan.I have seen many things.I have not seen a Utopian break the law in any official capacity. As such you will not see Utopians fighting with the poor mine workers.

Do not sink so low as to use profane words.It only damages your point.Futher more slinging mud at others because the suffering you are going threw all damages your point.You are coming off as a morning friend.That is alright,and good in some ways.But you know less about me than I know about Utopia.

[Ghostwriter]

I don't give a shit about you, Y.T. What I do care about is the fact that my friend died in my arms because of Elites. If they hadn't been there, she wouldn't have needed to be.

[Singularity]

Why thank you, Codex, I appreciate it.

I have been a DeVries elite and I am now working for the Project. While there are good and bad people in both groups, the Project tends to cultivate more saints than DeVries. And productive projects are its modus operandi. Take that as you will.

[Y.T.]

And I held a good friend wile he died as the result of a Utopian's action.Do you see me damning them all,because of the actions of a few?You lost afriends.Sorry.I didn't kill her,and I am not lying to you.You are lying to someone.If you didn't care about me you wouldn't have bothered adding your hate to this thread.Your friend will not come back from the dead.She will not wake up from her grave, come running to your side because you rage,and hate. So either get over it, or do not lie about it.

I am 36,I have been a novas for a few years,and i was in the military for more than 14 years.I know how to deal with pain.I know how Utopia works.I worked to find ways around Utopia for the better part of 12 years.

You come in swinging your great magic wands to cure the systems and leave the problems.You destroy the economies of at least 20 countries.You then you start the domino effects to make the largest drug cartel ever. Oh, from the countries you devastated,four were winning the war on drug threw the use of oil money.You claim to serve the Un,but yet threaten the sovereignty of nation on earth,on a daily basis.You want to improve human rights, at least the standards of human rights every but in your own house.

[Ghostwriter]

I see in those thirty-six years you never learnt the correct use of the English language.

You call it hate, Y.T? I call it grief. I've met you, if you don't recall, and I don't recall you ever acting like you felt anything.

Tell me, still on speaking terms with the Directive? I believe you trotted out their name during that conversation.

[Y.T.]

Grief is something you do to morn the lose of another.You expressed hate to someone else.Me.Do you think I killed her?Do you think she would be alive if I wasn't borne?If you can tell me one reason you take your hate out on me?As you said,I seemed cold,and uncaring in person.Did you think you that you would change my world view?

Speaking terms,yes.I am on good terms with them.I was working with them as little as 78 hours ago.Utopia turned them down,as they wanted more control of the mission obbjectives.Other than that,I am not at liberty to speak of said actions.

[Ghostwriter]

How can I change the view of someone with no heart?

[Singularity]

Quote:

Originally posted by Regan 'Codex' McLachlan:
How can I change the view of someone with no heart?

You would be surprised and more knowledgeable than you realize...

[Ian 'Very Bad' Blakely]

Quote:

Originally posted by Regan 'Codex' McLachlan:
I know all about what you Elites do, especially DeVries ones. Remember, Totentanz killed Slag, and Pursuer killed Warlady. The only one I've ever met who was worth more than the dirt under a snake's backside is Singularity.

I understand you are still upset, but please, let's be honest. Totentaz and Pursuer did not sneak into Slag and Warlady's beds and slay them in their sleept. Slag and Warlady stepped onto the field of battle, aware and willing to engage in deadly combat. If they didn't want to risk all, they shouldn't have been there. No one forced them.