Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 No need for the Pyre facade any longer. Besides, some elite over at Janessaries was using the name and after some careful reflection, I decided it wasn't really descriptive of what I've become. And after visiting Stigmata up in BFE, I knew it was only a matter of time before the cat got out of the bag anyway.Yes, I'm Juri McClendon.Yes, I erupted before I ever started posting here.Yes, I wanted to ruffle some feathers and I think I did that.You see, I'd been lurking here for a long time. Longer than I'll admit to, but long enough to know that this place doesn't get many like me. I was a bitch to some of you, and as I said fessing up to Jager on that, I'm going to stand behind what I said.I am not a quantum accident. I got my powers the hard way and I've got the nasty scars to prove it. I knew what type of powers I wanted to get and I designed the circumstances to get what I wanted, plus or minus a few surprises I couldn't have predicted. But there was no accident about it. I purposely set myself where I was either going to erupt or die doing it, and I erupted.I'm sure some of you are going to want to call me lucky or fortunate, or whatever, to have survived it. In some unrelated sense, sure, I'm like the rest of you. I had the good luck to be born with the goods to go boom. But unlike the rest of you, I took the necessary steps to make it happen, and I wanted it to happen. I wasn't going about my daily life and suddenly that exact happy accident, which I didn't desire, fell into my lap.Discuss.Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 I am not a quantum accident. I got my powers the hard way and I've got the nasty scars to prove it.Got your powers the hard way? You mean you were able to mentally prepare yourself for the life altering event we call eruption. Yeah, I guess that does make you different from the majority of us.I knew what type of powers I wanted to get and I designed the circumstances to get what I wanted, plus or minus a few surprises I couldn't have predicted. But there was no accident about it. I purposely set myself where I was either going to erupt or die doing it, and I erupted.Since you didn't die, and are still talking to us, we could have figured that out. I'm sure some of you are going to want to call me lucky or fortunate, or whatever, to have survived it. In some unrelated sense, sure, I'm like the rest of you. I had the good luck to be born with the goods to go boom. But unlike the rest of you, I took the necessary steps to make it happen, and I wanted it to happen. I wasn't going about my daily life and suddenly that exact happy accident, which I didn't desire, fell into my lap.If you didn't have prior knowledge that you were a latent nova, and you put yourself in a life-threatening circumstance, you should be counted as lucky.Okay. Sure. You are not like the rest of us. What's there to discuss?Blah, blah ... you're self-motivated.Blah, blah ... you committed suicide, but failed. I mean you erupted as planned.Blah, blah ... you know everything there is about being a nova.After your stellar introduction, unique eruption experience (which you feel makes you somewhat more special than the rest of us), and obvious lack of social skills, why would any of us want to discuss things with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 4, 2004 Author Share Posted May 4, 2004 Oh, lighten up, Jager. I never said I knew everything about being a Nova. I said I knew everything there is to being a Nova that a baseline can know from the reading the experiences, essays, and recollections of Novas. Don't feel so bitter because I said your particular contribution that reading list was just repetition of things I'd already read.I'm not asking you to discuss it with me. Discuss it with yourselves. You've got all these high-handed conversations about evolution and how the subconscious effects powers and taint and the subconscious desires manifest in terms of your eruption blah blah blah. But all of them are for people like you. I want you to think about what the existence of me, people like me, and what I've done, does for your endless theories and equations. Because my thoughts and desires were fucking conscious at the time of my eruption, more so than most of you here.I want you to talk about it, and since I'm obviously not as intelligent as some of the Novas here, my involvement in that particular conversation means jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Pyre, you made a few people upset.Let's just say this, You are alive because some people have better things to do than to kill you.I do not wish you harm, but there are on this board who are cold blooded killers.I think one really is cold blooded.So wise up,and if you want to ruffle some feathers do so when you have the ability to protect what you care about.I was hoping to have had the ability to talk to you in person before you posted something like this, but I see you wished other wise.So, be waned, you are a small fish in a big pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 4, 2004 Author Share Posted May 4, 2004 You know, if someone reeeeeaaaaaallllllllly wanted to kill me for the words I posted on an OpNet site, I mean, if my quantum accident jabs really tick someone off enough that they want me dead instead of just ignoring my annoying cracks, they have serious, and I mean serious, issues.Or, to say in simpler means for you, Signy, joke them if they can't take a fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waiting Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Oh, well. Sorry to hear it, I guess.Maybe I should post elsewhere?I am a human/baseline, but recently found out that I have the genetic ability to become a nova. I'm not sure what I should do. I will explain in another post I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Young miss, I have something to ask you.What would I kill you first for, if you broke my arm or broke my trust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Juri the thought of gutting you had crossed my mind. Does that mean I have issues or just that you where rather insultive and annoying? Hmmm maybe both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: ...why would any of us want to discuss things with you? Because some of us are simply fascinated.Welcome to the fold Salamander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Waiting: Oh, well. Sorry to hear it, I guess.Maybe I should post elsewhere?I am a human/baseline, but recently found out that I have the genetic ability to become a nova. I'm not sure what I should do. I will explain in another post I guess. Correction please. You are not a human/baseline if you have the genetic ability to erupt. You are a pre-erupted Nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Salamander, I understand you are not asking us to discuss this with you , but I do have a question for you. I have, sources, some might say. These sources have informed me that you exhibit what might be Taint. If this is the case, how do you address that? If we do look at the theory that eruptions are reflected by both conscious and unconscious desires with Taint being an example of self-hatred or other negative emotions, how are we to look at your Taint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waiting Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Correction please. You are not a human/baseline if you have the genetic ability to erupt. You are a pre-erupted Nova.Thank you. Do all novas make this distinction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 No, not all of us. But I am sure Prodigy will say it isn't an opinion it is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan:Because some of us are simply fascinated.All I needed to know, James. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan:Because some of us are simply fascinated.While some are utterly uninterested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 4, 2004 Author Share Posted May 4, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Signy Malory: Young miss, I have something to ask you.What would I kill you first for, if you broke my arm or broke my trust? Too many factors for me to give you an answer on that, Ms. Cassandra.Have you been physically hurt by a stranger before? Have you been physically hurt by a friend before? Was the physical injury an accident or deliberate? Was it done by someone who loved you or someone whose only existence up till that point had been text on a screen? Did this happen when you were a child?Did the stranger break your trust? If so, how was the trust initially established? Do you give unquestioning trust to anyone who hasn't broken it?People react to everything differently depending on who they are and what experiences/relationships they've had up to the moment of the reaction.Sorry, I'm a psych major, so I analyze these things a bit.Most people, and I stress most, know that OpNet forums and chatrooms are about as real life as a comic book. If you enter one thinking that everyone is honest and without deception, then I'll admit to being a fourteen-year old boy with a picture of Alejandra on my wall that I fap-off to every night before bed that gets online and pretend to be an erupted kid in Australia.There are people called Trolls for a reason, and almost every site out there has them. And frankly, like I said, if you took me so seriously that you wanted to come and gut, then you have issues, serious ones, that you need to look into resolving.And Totem, yes, I'm talking to you right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 What's that, Salamander?Your psych major hasn't prepared you for the differing psycology of novas? Novas, especially those that come about by those violent accidents you so readily deride, are a violent people. They feel, to some degree, that they are a law unto themselves.Humanity reacts to law and order that can effectively punish them. If a nova has little to fear from baseline authorities, they often do as they wish. Didn't you already understand this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 4, 2004 Author Share Posted May 4, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan: Salamander, I understand you are not asking us to discuss this with you , but I do have a question for you. I have, sources, some might say. These sources have informed me that you exhibit what might be Taint. If this is the case, how do you address that? If we do look at the theory that eruptions are reflected by both conscious and unconscious desires with Taint being an example of self-hatred or other negative emotions, how are we to look at your Taint? Thanks for the welcome, Mr. Meehan. Prodigy. James. What is it you want me to call you? I'm fine with Salamander or Juri.You mean the fact that I always look like I'm on fire, down to the aura of heat without the heat? Is that Taint? The book is kinda out on that one. Some Nova paraphysicians will tell you it's just excess quantum bleeding off you. I think it's a pretty cool anima myself.If there was any self-hatred or loathing involved, it could only have been that of not being a Nova. That's the only thing that after some careful self-reflection that I can come up with. But I don't remember thinking that or even dwelling on it when my eruption happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 4, 2004 Author Share Posted May 4, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: What's that, Salamander?Your psych major hasn't prepared you for the differing psycology of novas? Novas, especially those that come about by those violent accidents you so readily deride, are a violent people. They feel, to some degree, that they are a law unto themselves.Humanity reacts to law and order that can effectively punish them. If a nova has little to fear from baseline authorities, they often do as they wish. Didn't you already understand this? Yep. Took it into consideration already. You'll notice I didn't start posting until after I had erupted. Inexperienced as a Nova? Hell yes. Defenseless, fuck no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Salamander, thanks for judging my urge to kill. You will go far when you meet some that have more difficulty dealing with it than I do. So on another note Juri, How is your Rashoud training going? Are you going to be joining the ranks of T2M or anything in the near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 4, 2004 Author Share Posted May 4, 2004 Hmm, Totem, let me rephrase my earlier words. If you gave serious, and honest thought to making your way to Huntsville and then killing me for what I said on an OpNet site, and it wasn't just some fleeting flash of anger, then yes, I think you need some kind of help. I'm sorry, but I can't see that as a healthy way to approach life. I type something that makes you a bit miffed and your reaction is to come hundreds of miles to kill me? Yeah, that seems excessive, extreme, and a little unbalanced.As for the rest of your post, I don't think having someone under investigation for arson under their roof is something Utopia wants at the moment. I'm doing this without their help. 'sides, you and I, we share a connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakinyan Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Obviously since I didn't travel hundreds of miles to slice you up into griffin treats I must be somewhat under control huh? On the contrary I think Utopia would approach you since you might need legal help and control training. If they come knocking don't turn them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violette 'V' D'Aronique Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Juri 'Salamander' McClendon: As for the rest of your post, I don't think having someone under investigation for arson under their roof is something Utopia wants at the moment. Depends on the extent of your involvement. My eruption was responsible for the deaths of two people, and Utopia helped me out immensely with clearing my name for it. My eruption was what you'd call a quantum accident though, so the same offer might not apply to you.Still, Totem's advice to you is sound. Speaking with a PU counselor might get you some options. If nothing else, simply to learn more about what you can do in a relatively safe environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 None of the laws around eruption protections apply to her.She knowingly and willfully started the fire.She therefore committed a crime and then erupted do the end of her crime.Normally the legal protection that Eruption gives a nova, it is under the "Act of God". IE in, no way could the person could know anything wrong would happen, and they had no active way of controlling the area around them.By the way, I think there are at least three felonies that Juri 'Salamander' McClendon can and should be charged with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 Hey, Shithead Funk Baby,You weren't there, 'kay? Don't make assumptions on something you've only read about. There might be circumstances and participants in this event that you've got no clue of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Did you or did you not try to catch yourself on fire, in hopes of becoming a nova?Did or did not yourself made eruption cause damage and risk to private property?Did or did not your fire cause risk to your own life and the lives of others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 Hey, Shithead Funk Baby,You know I can't discuss legal proceedings of a case that hasn't been resolved yet in public.Again, shut the fuck up and stop making assumptions. You weren't there, and you're not involved.I'll say what I can about the details when the investigation and/or trial is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 But you did.And I am.See, you little girl, it assholes like you that make life as a nova harder than it has to be.By the way, Miss McClendon, it is not wise to piss off a nova lawyer. Now act civilly or I will make it my personal business to see that you are in the slammer for 20 plus years, or dead.No,I do not plan on breaking the law, but I do plan on making your legal life a living hell if you do not drop your ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 You've got no jurisdiction, Shithead.The State of Alabama is investigating this, and that means State and County prosecutors. You can't do shit to me.Furthermore, if you attempt to involve yourself in anyway, I'll see to it that this becomes a mistrial. And if you don't think I can do that, you shouldn't have posted your intent to make my life a living hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I can't do shit to you?I sure can.i can tell the STATE PROSECUTORS every little hole in your case,and theirs.I maybe will have the ability to bring into the Federal LEVEL based on the facts that you are a NOVA now,you may have committed a hate crime, and deprived people out of their civil rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 5, 2004 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 Go ahead, Shithead. tell them. Since you've got a personal involvement now, ergo, nailing my ass to the wall, it'd be considered a conflict of interest. Please, do it! Get me a mistrial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Seeing as I also am one the foremost renowned persons in the study,and letagation of Nova law in the US,I think I can convince the prosecuting state to hire me for one dollar.Even if I have personal involvement I can still be a legal advisor.By the way, I have already called up all the revalent expert witnesses in your area, put them on retainer. I also, have made apointments with all relavent civil servents in this case.You want to know what it means to be a NOVA, here it is.You are going down,and frankly, I ain't sorry.On the plus side for you that 20 plus years will not be that long as you may live to see 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Well. That was down right hostile. Not making too many friends, are you, Juri?Interesting choice for an introduction. I've got to admit, I was hoping 'till the end that you were pulling a fast one - as opposed to being some Juri McClendon copycat about to get herself killed. I guess if you were still pre-eruption, I'd feed you a line about how everyone - human or nova - has potential, and about how you are most likely wasting yours by taking such a long shot.However, you clearly pulled it off, so screw it. Congratulations - it's always nice to see someone cheat the odds. If you ever pass through Mumbai for some reason, drop by. I'll buy you a drink. ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 6, 2004 Author Share Posted May 6, 2004 I wouldn't worry about it, Alex. She can't touch me, and if she even attempts to intervene, I'm off the hook. Her intent in the matter is clearly malicious and malevolent, and I've already gotten my attorney's word that the matter is under control.By the way, Shithead Funk Baby? You don't want to fuck with a Nova Defense Attorney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 JuriI have taken my time and watched you appear here on the forums.I had a lecture all set up, but I do not think it appropriate.I'll say this.Welcome to a larger world, Prometheus.No, I am not in error about your name. Research the legend the name comes from, then respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiGeist Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Juri 'Salamander' McClendon:By the way, Shithead Funk Baby? You don't want to fuck with a Nova Defense Attorney. No, you wouldn't. But, Here's a question, is it worth it on either side to take it this far?Quite frankly, the only thing I see is damaged property and nothing else. As far as I know, there were no injuries, right?This just seems to me to be a rivalry that is going to come to a head in a legal arena.There are better things to use the court system for than a vendetta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juri 'Salamander' McClendon Posted May 6, 2004 Author Share Posted May 6, 2004 You know, Chibi-Usagi, I was going to make a concerted effort to be nicer around here. I truly was. I'd admitted to being a bitch to Jager a few posts back and came clean on my deceptions and figured, yeah, I rubbed some of you the wrong way, but I'll play nice and in time, a few months or years, all of that will be in the past.I think I'll make an exception here.Stealing? What a colossal joke. No, stealing would have been taking the powers of another Nova in some kind of fucked up Node transplant. That would have been stealing. All I did was unlock what was already within me, and you can't steal what is already yours.Come up with a better comparison and maybe we'll talk again. Oh, btw, how much would it cost to have you do a sound bite saying "Pink Sugar Heart Attack!"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Just curious here:Did anyone else get hurt by Juri's actions?Was any other property damaged, besides things belonging to her?Has she tried to collect any insurance on said property, if applicable?If the answer to all of the above is no, why isn't this criminal mischief?Is this Alabama, or Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Anne, I understand you wanting to make sure the law works the way it is supposed to, but is this a battle you want to fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kestrel404 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 As I recall from the news, her rented house caught on fire. Since it was someone else' property, that's arson. If I'm wrong and there was no damage to the house, then it's just the local officials getting rubbed the wrong way and making a political campaign out of this.Not that I think it was a good idea in any case. She shouldn't have been lighting things on fire (including herself) in someone else' house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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