opnet [OpNet] Dry, White Toast

[Jager]

Sometimes the oddest little things make you think.

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

To me, Endeavor is like a Jumbo-sized Variety pack of Junk Food.

Ashnod is like dry, white toast with a multi-vitamin.

Sure, with Endeavor, you are likely to end up in deep space with only a yo-yo and an asthma inhaler.

Sure, we get the Whoops, that sucked, or What was I thinking when I did that four times a month.

And, she's spent time in the fun house, blown up more equipment than the GNP of a mid-sized country, and she has permanently misplaced her Laws of Physics handbook.

Yes, her learning curve looks like the ultimate rollercoaster ride.

Ashnod is dry, white toast and a multi-vitamin. Same today, yesterday, next week, and last week.

I must admit that I sometimes wonder if something has constricted the blood flow to Endeavor's mind, she comes up with such crazy stuff. But, I have never doubt her heart, or her spirit.

Endeavor isn't much of an asset as a friend. She runs off whenever, and has lost as much power as many novas have known. Bad shit happens to her.

But, she always greets me with a smile, and she is fun to just sit back and eat popcorn with.

The only person she let's down is herself, and she ponies up to that.

Of course, I never look at friends as a net worth kind of thing.

Ashnod is never silly, never takes unnecessary risks, never risks lives without cause, and never makes mistakes.

I imagine if you take her advice to heart, you will live longer.

Plain, dry, white toast and a multi-vitamin.

Its alot better for you than junk food, right?

The thing is, Endeavor has been fun to walk beside. She helps you learn with herself as the chalkboard. She expects success, but understands failure.

Ashnod has been a series of lectures about what is the right course of action.

Endeavor has changed alot ... often in a very short period of time, and she's changed back a bit, too.

Ashnod hasn't changed at all.

Oh, I'm sure she rearranges the house plants and furniture of her soul from time to time, but the house is the same. The contents are the same. The opinions are the same. The message is the same.

Sometimes the oddest little things make you think.

[Apep]

Oh don't let her fool you. Ashnod has changed a great deal since I've known her. She's grown immensly as a person. Yes the core of who she is the same but few people have hope to change that. And give her a little credit would you? Dry white toast? She's got a bit more flavor than that.

I wonder what sort of food you view me as? I like to think a succulent habanero.

[Hugin]

You?

Fugu. Definetly Fugu. Rare and delicious, but only when prepared perfectly. One false move and you're dead.

[Wakinyan]

I have to go with Jager on this one. I am sure Ashnod has the best interest at heart for the Nova race and all but everything I read about her or saw on the Opnet makes her seem well very one track and reserved.

I am not about to judge her however, since I have never met her. Not to mention I am not much of one to be judging people in the first place.

As for what food Apep is like, I dunno... I've never tried her. (Do I get killed now?)

[Hugin]

And why should Ashnod deviate from her one track? For sake of variety? She is offering advice and wisdom, one doesn't toss in a little bullshit just to keep things different.

Sakurako is wild and changing. This is her nature. It also reflects the possibility that she is still growing, trying to find herself.

Ashnod is a grown woman who has experienced the wild and many varieties of life, learned from those experiences and has developed herself. What changes she goes through will likely be unnoticeable to those who are not her intimates.

[Apep]

I guess no one knows Ashnod the way I do. You know she's actually stuck her tongue out at me before?

[Wakinyan]

Does your arguement change the fact of how she is precieved? Not really. I have rarely even see her chime in on here with her opinions on things until she took a jab at Endeavor. For one of the leading Terats she doesn't do a lot of PR. Just big dramatic moments of scolding Novas and Baselines before off she goes in her pretty red light.

I don't see her in a negative way really but I for one, don't find her very approachable. Two, while I am fourteen feet tall and have lotsa sharp pointy things I find her more intimidating than most other Novas out there.

[Jager]

For one, I like toast, but it is still toast.

Apep ... I always imagine you like a well-aged scotch. Comfortable, suprisingly smooth, but best in moderation. Only for the discriminating pallet.

Of course, one could always drink themselves to death.

[Apep]

Comfortable? I don't think anyone has ever described me as such.

[Jager]

I would hope I'm not just anyone.

[David 'Dr. Troll' Smith]

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Totem:
I don't see [Ashnod] in a negative way really but I for one, don't find her very approachable. Two, while I am fourteen feet tall and have lotsa sharp pointy things I find her more intimidating than most other Novas out there.

I think the sense you are using when you perceive this is called "common".

[DigiGeist]

You know, it is both strange and interesting that you guys are using types of food to describe eachother. This is either a sign of boredom, or probably a stretch to find some sort of analogy that fits.

Of course, I'm joking.

But I wouldn't call Miss Hino junk food. From the stories I've heard, while eclectic and somewhat odd, most people leave with a sense of warmth from her not usually exhibited by other novas.

Perhaps she's more of a beef stew loaded with assorted vegetables. Many different things, thrown into a pot, stirred generously at high heat, but generally leaves a warm feeling in the belly after eating. Or perhaps a sushi box dinner. A little of everything with a generous serving of wasabi.

Of course, my meetings with the pink wonder have been brief. So what am I to judge.

Jager, I see you more as a 3 course meal. You're there with all the fixings, and generally you leave satisfied. Probably a well done steak with a good side of potatoes, assorted veggies, and a nice vintage wine.

Ugh, now you got me into this... good grief.

[Wakinyan]

I was thinking Sushi for Endeavor....

Uhm, I'll just shut up now.

[Ashnod]

There are perhaps three people who frequent these forums who are qualified to judge what I am like offline. Apep is one of them, Jager is not.

Think of my online presentation as you wish, as it is all most of you have to reference me with. I come here to represent a philosophy and the Teragen. I am waging an intellectual and educational war for the sake of my species' freedom and survival, and I take this very seriously. I do not come here for companionship nor do I come here for community. I am not your friend and I am not your friendly neighborhood Terat.

Would Jager's criticism have been limited to the text you see on these boards, I would have left well enough alone. He is instead speaking of the sum of my personality, making speculative judgements about quirks and habits he has no way of knowing or discerning. I could point to the fact that I used to flirt with Hazzard when he was here, or feigning a weak heart upon learning of Apep's tryst with Leviathan and his multiple appendages, as examples of me being silly. I could point out the fact that I refused a dance in Ibiza with Jager, in fact refused to touch his hand, yet did both of those things recently at the Chill Factor release party, as an example of change. Both of these he is aware of, but yet I am still portrayed by him as "never being silly," and "will never change."

Jager does not know me, nor do I wish him ever to. Our paths have crossed exactly three times: one ended with heated words, another civilly, and the last with a dance. Not even a complete 6 hours have passed with the two of us in the same room together.

My private life is kept that way because I wish it. I do not speak of my life, my loves, or my joys here because I don't wish to share them. If you choose to criticize how I present myself online, by all means, you have that right. Only three of you have the knowledge to speak of my private life.

[Wakinyan]

See the issue I have is while you have your treehouse for cool Terats to go hang out in. With your life, loves and joys. All I see is you come down off the mount to deliver a sermon, like you just did.

At least Orzaiz does it with a bit of charm. All I feel when you speak is that you are coming down to the level of 'lesser Novas' when you do feel the need to speak to us. For that very reason I feel there is no place for me in the group you cherish so.

[Ashnod]

You assume that other Terats "hang out" with me.

[Wakinyan]

Okay then let me ask. Out of the three people who frequent this forum that you mentioned. How many of them are Terat?

Don't get me wrong Ashnod. I think you are intelligent, beautiful and I am sure close and personable to those you choose to give those things to. You just have walls so thick that sometimes I overlook what you are really saying because I am to busy trying to get over the barrier.

We all have our walls I guess......

[Ashnod]

One. And I've already mentioned her.

[Matryoshka]

Her heart is in the right place?I see.So what one feels,and what one intends should justify what actions one causes. Then, Jager you are a hypocrite.

I would not likely call Ashnod a friend, but I would call her one sooner than Endeavor.From the posts on the forums, and her public face, I do not think anyone could ever trust her.Ashnod has giving me no reason not to trust her.

[Wakinyan]

I didn't think we where judging anyone in this thread Signy. But if you want I can judge you.

Ashnod, I am sure those who have earned what you have given them are happy to have it. Be well.

[Jager]

Since all I did was tell of my perceptions of two people, that is all it was.

If you, Ashnod, chose to present yourself to me as dry, white toast, that's your choice. I have always had the feeling their is more.

When you have acted a certain, emotional way, I always felt it was just that; an act.

Hey, its just my perceptions of two people. Besides, I like toast.

[Avatar]

So Senor Jager, did you get the response you were hoping for?

[Jager]

Today, that would be pleasently suprised "No".

I really wasn't expecting a response from Ashnod at all, but I found it interesting.

I also find it interesting the perceptions some people have of me.

As always, if I get even a single person to think about their perceptions, I consider it worthwhile.

[Matryoshka]

Totem, this thread is not about Judging? You are a rather blind one. This topic states, that Endeavor is fun, Ashnod isn't. It lists both their traits,and compares them. I simply state that from the traits of the two people I can not trust Endeavor.From the traits of the two people, I could trust Ashnod.

As it happens I do not trust Ashnod, but that is because she has given me no reason to trust her.Endeavor has given me many reasons not to trust her.

[Jager]

I would say it is a matter of taste, not judgement. They aren't all that similar, so a comparison like "I would trust this person, but not this one" isn't apt.

Ashnod is the better dancer, IMHO.

Endeavor is the better dresser ... when she stays away from pink.

Otherwise, there is no reason for comparison, or I would be comparing things not in my mutual experience.

Signy, you are entitled to your perceptions, and your opinions built upon them.

[Sakurako Hino]

Yeah, I have to admit, a slight change in the chromatic makeup of my wardrobe is in order.

Although, I'll keep a couple pink articles of clothing.

But yes, I do overdo that. Luckily I got the budget to remedy that issue in a couple days.

[Ghostwriter]

But... but...

I like your pinkiness! You are the Turkish Delight of the boards - pink, sweet and if not exactly good for you then certainly fun to be around!

Signy, you're entitled to your opinions. Endeavour happens to be one person I consider a friend and an equal, and for a person with social difficulties, that's a freakin' miracle. Get off your goddamn mountain top and live amongst the mortals for a while.

[Matryoshka]

Regan, I posted my last post on this thread holding Irien S. Malory, my youngest grand daughter.She is one,and has her father's eyes.She is going to be a little devil,and break many of hearts. As for being mortals, I would hope that is what you meant, spening time with my family.

[Neil Preston]

With the ease inwhich you bully younger novas around, I can but shudder, Ms. Malory, at the "attention" your family will get.

[Matryoshka]

Neil, Teady bear totrue and bed time story inaquastions.I asure you, young Neil, I do not carrot or stick my family, I simply let them know that I love them.I could ask the details of how your father raised you, but that wouldn't be the best of things to do.I understand that he is human as well.

Yes, I deal heavy handily with those who should know better. I do not sit down and blame someone who doesn't understand anything.Most of all those who don't what they did wrong .I set standers, but those standards are atanable. If Endeavor wishes to be judged with laxxer rules, then she should not have built her throne so high.

[Neil Preston]

Lady, I am referring to you pimp-slapping me around on the Maru, but it seems you have already forgotten that.

Don't give me crap about you "knowing something" about me, either. I lived with that "sense" for years and I know when its being used.

You like putting weaker novas down. That doesn't make you unique by any stretch of the imagination. It makes you pathetic.

From here on out, stay away from me, and I will stay away from you. I sure as hell don't want or need your kind of help.

Sorry, Captain, but I hate bullies.

[Sakurako Hino]

Signy, you don't know me. Stop talking like you do.

[Matryoshka]

I spent a day with you.I have read many of your posts, and papers.I have looked over your blue prints of your toys.Took a part some, rebuilt them.Like hell I don't know you.

Child,be careful who you let near you.

[Sakurako Hino]

Are you trying to scare me, Miss Malory? You kiss your children goodnight with those same lips? Do you prepare your family's meals with the fingers you type your foul words with?

You're pretty much resorting to threats to try to get your point across. Are you purposely trying to scare me?

Signy, if... no, when... I figure out your game I will dismantle you as easily as you dismantled my inventions. You don't intimidate me. No one does anymore.

I don't like your tone of voice, at least in text, and I doubt I'd like it anymore in person. So, let's just say that you should just drop this.

Oh, and by the way, thanks for damaging very expensive and sensitive equipment around my ship. I'm still trying to figure out what your damn game was being with the rest of us, and quite frankly, I don't want to know, but you're causing no end to my irritation.

I'll be sure to check my lists more thoroughly next time. Especially if I suspect your name is on them.

[DigiGeist]

Jager, to sort of change the flow here, all I have to say is...

What am I, Chopped Liver?!?!?!?!?!

[Matryoshka]

I didn't touch a thing in your ship.And I don't type, or speak into this computer. I don't threaten, I state facts. I see you as a danger, if your heart is in the right place or not.

You said I didn't know you.I told you why I do.If you didn't like the tone, guess what.I could care less about how you feel.

As it is the chances of your toys leading to weapons is nearly total.The chance of those weapons being black tech, isn't so bad either.There is a reason my medical bay is not as good as I can make it.I have ethics that take into account others, you don't seem to.

You are living on the whim of friends,favors, PR messes and the fact that their far more dangerous people alive.I do not consider you a bad person. I just think you are a good one,who is paving the world right to hell.You may mean well.But as I said, I don't care.

You are not dead yet.You still have time to change.But will you?I am not telling you that one.

[Sakurako Hino]

So, I'm now responsible for the world's ills? Is it the fact I'm associated with an upper-tier corporation? Is it because I invent "dangerous" things that fools will use as weapons instead of their original intent?

I'm seeing the arguments here, but all I'm getting isn't warnings, but alot of bellowing and sound bites.

And another thing, who caused the damage then? The only person I know who could have done what they did was Sphere. I'm still reviewing security tapes. But as far as I know, Sphere and yourself weren't too involved for most of the trip.

Look, you say you like me, yet you turn face and ream me out. I'm understand your points, but I'm just not getting why your this damned aggressive.

I'll just say this. I understand that some things I create are, in the wrong hands, dangerous. I also understand that fuck yeah I'm a publicity hound. So would most people when they get attention. As for friends, If you don't got none, all you have are enemies. I would bend over backwards for them, and don't think for a second that I wouldn't.

Yeah, I have a "world" I retreat to, but we all in some form or fashion create one to retreat to when the world has gone nuts. You retreat to your family, and have some semblance of a normal life. Quite frankly, my retreat is quite... novel... to find a term for it. Others have other ways to relax and forget their troubles, if for a little while.

I'm not really saying that directly to you, I'm sort of saying that to anyone here reading this.

I need my space too.

[Neil Preston]

As I said, She's a bully.

[Jager]

Digi, if you spent less time on a morgue slab, and more in bed with a beauty of your choice, you would be happier.

Nah, not liver.

Signy, thanks for the reminder.

[DigiGeist]

Agreed.

Half the time I feel like the Undertaker. I mean damn, I should just sleep in a casket.

You're right, I need some quality time. If you know what I mean...

Damn, I need to rattle off a letter to Abby now...