The Fox Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 ... who calls herself 'the Vixen?'Where is that taint-riddled little whore and who the hell gave her the right to take my goddamn A.L. registered trademarked name!?Like clawing your way up the top 100 isn't hard enough! Now I get some little gimp schoolmarm claiming to be me.You have 72 hours to change your alias, 'Vixen,' or I pay you a visit in person that's gonna put you back in a coma.Merry Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Now this should prove to be most interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnod Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 How ironic. I seem to recall the same scenario occuring to Lucious Clay once when he was using the moniker "Super Pimp." Someone in the XWF had been using it longer than him and challenged him to a fight for the rights to the name.Clay put the challenger into a coma and then promptly changed his name immediately after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Sort of interesting, that "The Vixen" announces herself to the world almost a year or so after Vixen made her presence felt on N!. And I doubt that threatening physical harm will sway Vixen to dropping her name. I would advise 2.0 to back off of this path. Nothing good ever comes of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 "Nothing good ever comes of violence."I would offer that, while a noble sentiment, this is an extreme statement. All thing in moderation.Violent action is the basis for most games and contests, whether we're speaking of the interplay in soccer or the pristine conflict of two intellects striving for domination in a chess match. The goal of most martial art forms is to master the application of violence, which paradoxically allows the practitioner to be less violent. And, while Doctor Richards may find this matter troublesome, it does illustrate a worthwhile lesson to be learned. Identity is important and should be protected accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Eddie, what is so important about "Nova Identities" anyways? I mean yes, people have a hook to hang their hat on when it comes to a Nova, but really, the only name that matters is the one that is given to you at birth. Is a name that really isn't yours to begin with worth risking life and limb for? I could see that this'll go to court, but come on people. There is only so far you can take some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 You have 72 hours to change your alias, 'Vixen,' or I pay you a visit in person that's gonna put you back in a coma.The Vixen, you had better keep running, if you even attempt to follow up on that threat.I suggest you contact Project Utopia, if you have a complaint about her name. She is a contractor with them, and I believe they handle the majority of her legal issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 "Eddie, what is so important about "Nova Identities" anyways?"Consider that some novas, of which a 'name' is part of the package, have annual incomes that exceed the box office grosses of many motion picturess. I even vaguely recall some game company that was forced to close it's doors back in the '90s because of a protracted legal battle with an entertainment company over a simple similarity of names between their game product and the other company's cartoon. Regardless of social considerations, this is a matter of business and big business at that.In regards to simple social considerations how would you feel upon discovering the name 'Endeavor' were being used by an XWF combatant, an escort service or a member of the Teragen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Is a name that really isn't yours to begin with worth risking life and limb for?Yes, it is. Having the correct name in the elite business can be the difference between being a joke and being a force of nature. Translation: A good name can have an impact on your income. (Just ask "The Target").Worse, many novas identify more with their stage name than their original. An attempt to take their name is viewed emotionally as a attack on their identity.I have some personal experience with this. My appearence is similar enough to a fictional character that I received legal threats from his owner to sue me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino:...but really, the only name that matters is the one that is given to you at birth. Um, that would be a big, fat, fucking no goddamn way. My name is Lemmy Chillmeister. That is my name because that is who the fuck I am. What my useless ass fucks of parents called me means jackshit to me. I ain't that guy no more, so I don't go by that name no more. This name I chose, this name I invested time and money in and this name I would fucking well dust knuckles for.And me, I ain't no fighter. I've been in two dustups since brainchubbie hit. Once with a bunch of dipshit religious types and once with another nova at a party that got a little out of hand. I did okay both times but bringing shit isn't what I think of doing out the gate. But someone yank my name like it was their own and it is on.Endeavor, you telling me you ain't got a problem with Phantasy? That shapechanging little call girl? I've talked with dudes that have been with her and one of them admitted to having her change into you and act like you during the deed. This is the pre-jailbait looking you of course, he ain't no sickee. But that kind of thing doesn't creep you out and feel all violated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Lemmy, what people do in their bedrooms is none of my business. If someone has an obsession with the old me, damn, the more the merrier. Just don't let me catch her pulling a 'shift of me in my current state. I wouldn't be too... amused. Although, legally I am 20. Well, I'm 20 in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Eddie Cyclone: "Eddie, what is so important about "Nova Identities" anyways?"Consider that some novas, of which a 'name' is part of the package, have annual incomes that exceed the box office grosses of many motion picturess. I even vaguely recall some game company that was forced to close it's doors back in the '90s because of a protracted legal battle with an entertainment company over a simple similarity of names between their game product and the other company's cartoon. Regardless of social considerations, this is a matter of business and big business at that.In regards to simple social considerations how would you feel upon discovering the name 'Endeavor' were being used by an XWF combatant, an escort service or a member of the Teragen? If there was, I'd be surprised. Although my name isn't registered with Lexington or other "Name Registries", My Identity and Likeness is protected as a trademark as well as my name. Not because I feel any connection to my name, but to ensure people don't... toss mud on it. Protecting the franchise is an important business strategy. Although I think it's weird having to freaking copyright your name.As to how I'd feel... It depends on the situation. Although I'm sure the copyrighting I've done with my personal attorneys should be adequate enough to protect my "Nova Name". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 We can discuss the advantages of using a service such as A-L during your martial training. I'll have the options drawn up and COAs available for your perusal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Heh. It'd be pretty much a double-failsafe, but whatever. I guess being careful never hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Names are important. I chose the name Codex because of its meaning as a text, most importantly a religious text. Being a historian, theologian and mythologist, it suits me.The Vixen, I'll send a prayer to Arawn, King of the Celtic underworld for you. Sounds like you'll be meeting him soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Vixen's no killer, TV, but she has some pretty nice friends.Well, I'm 20 in January. Lordie, I've been running with children,or,"Honestly officer! She told me she was twenty one!!!!! !" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiGeist Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Hahaha. We're definately gonna have some fun with this. Although, I sorta feel guilty picking on Sakurako. After all, I bet she isn't liking being Endeavor-Chan. But, some friendly nudges once in a while shouldn't be too detrimental. Look at it this way, we don't get to live a second childhood. Perhaps she should take advantage of it? Since the first time around was sort of a bad experience for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Quote:Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino:...I think it's weird having to freaking copyright your name.Unless you have it legally changed, your "Nova name" is effectively your business' name and not yours. The problem is that the law isn't written with that idea in mind. Registering is relatively cheap, easy, and it says you care about it.It can be unpleasant to find out that someone else registered your image years ago. Another thing for you corporate types out there. Make sure you own your name, not your sponsor. I'm changing ships right now (from DeVries to the Project), and it would be a mess if DeVries owned my name (DV doesn't do that kind of thing, but I've heard stories about other companies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 *smiles*Doc, you haven't covered some stuff I don't already know. But, there are those that dont. So listen to the Doc, kids. You won't like how he flunks ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 I have 16 legal names.One of them is a Californian Joke..It's "5".I will grant one wish,that is reasonably within my powers,to the first person who can tell me why that is a joke, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violette 'V' D'Aronique Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Umm...5 mph is the speed you don't dare exceed when it rains in California? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted December 26, 2003 Share Posted December 26, 2003 Oh,Miss D'Aronique,that is not it,but you being back brings a smile to my lips.So,what would you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by The Vixen: ... who calls herself 'the Vixen?'I am that bitch!Howdyho. I notice you mention an A.L. registered name, which is probably where you got the impression you were the first to register it. I registered 'The Vixen' a qhile back, actually, just not through A.L. (though I did browse their database to see if it was taken.)Back when Endeavor was in the hospital, I bit the bullet and I had Novation run a limited run of stuffed toys based on my likeness so I could pay a couple bills and get Endeavor a get-well-soon gift. And I'm pretty sure my usage predates yours.But in the interest of diplomacy, I'm gonna go by another nickname for a while until my lawyer and your lawyer come to an agreement....As for everyone else, yes, I know it's a horrible nickname. I earnt it, though - I got it when I was studying the twin-tailed fox in my lab, and dammit, it stuck no matter how hard I tried to scrub it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Foxy Roxy... >.< I thought anyone who called you Foxy died...Damn. I actually and honestly thought both sides would stick to their guns until the courts hammered it out.And I do have a stuffed doll of the TRUE Vixen. Kitsune are my weakness, go fig. ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Roxy, isn't the quote also from The Road Warrior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Yes, but I have a deeper and fonder respect for the efforts of Doctor Banzai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Too bad I can't remember that movie like some Buckaroo Banzai fanatics do... It seems to be thething for geeks like me and my ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Fanatics ... FANATICS!!!!!Who you calling fanatics, munchkin?{{breathe, breathe}}Who could forget Death Dwarves aboard the Calypso? Come on, now. That's a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 I always thought The Target was a great name. The guy should have gone into protection and bodyguard work with a name like that.My Nova moniker ain't registered with anyone, but if someone wants to start using it then that's cool with me. Anything to keep the Directive confused....maybe I should have gone with Sonic Monkey Death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Sonic Death Monkey?But ........Your powers aren't sonic in nature,aren't you a bank robber by trade,and I didn't realize you have opposable big toes?Shouldn't it be Plasma Crack-Monkey, instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 O.o Sonic Death Monkey?!?!Shoot, people are starting to call me Prodigal Pink... Go fig >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 At least no one is calling you The Pink Prodigy.(Sorry, James ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Exactly Jager, everyone'd go up against me thinking sonics and get utterly confused when I start chucking the plasma and teleporting all over the shop. That'd learn em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Well, gang, the ex-Foxy Roxy here. The court case has been settled - the suit has been dropped and I've expressed a willingness to forget about her threat if it means we can put this behind us.She said she'd be changing her name to 'The Fox' soon enough.So yeah. There's that settled.If I ever have to endure another legal dispute again, it'll be too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 W00T! ^.^GREAT NEWS! Congratulations!We should split a latte in New York at that new High-Octane Nova-coffee joint, and celebrate!I suppose your lawyer is happy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Congrats, Vixen. Besides, The Fox isn't a bad name at all. Kinda sneaky-sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Good for you! That other Vixen had some serious anger management issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Zed my boy, to you, everyone has anger management issues. I don't know how you keep yourself so... well... I can't put a name to it, the closest I get is... Positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Quote:Originally posted by Zed: Good for you! That other Vixen had some serious anger management issues. I know how she feels. Why do I have the feeling that she did the whole thing as a PR stunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiGeist Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 I'd wager money that it was. Get some artificial heat, get a court case, get your 15 minutes and dissapear when things turn south.Now her name is on the lips of every PR firm in the country. Looking to get "The Contraversial Nova: The Fox" in their stable of clients.I don't think we've heard the last of "The Fox".Anyways, congratulations on your victory. I liked Vixen more than "Foxy Roxy". Sounds like a video game character from an old 16-bit fighting game... Yes, I remember when there were 16 bit games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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