N News Service Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 XWF sues TeratToday lawyers for the nova powered combat/entertainment company XWF filed a restraint of trade lawsuit against nova, Terat member and sometime spokesperson, Ashnod. Paul Hennessey, spokesman for XWF was quoted as saying, "Ashnod, as a member of the Teragen organization, has a great deal of sway with certain sections of the nova population. Her declarations as to the improper nature of the XWF has convinced a number of our contracted fighters to break relations with us and refuse to honor their commitments. We feel that Ashnod is using unspoken threats towards those novas who might fear the Teragen or try to gain some support from that organization. Thus her activities are directly harmful to us as a company."The XWF has lost the services of two novas in recent months, former Silver Circle Champion Humberto 'Il Monstre' Guerre and the masked Black Circle Championship contender, Gilgamesh. Both novas have publicly admitted that their retirement from the sport were influenced by unamed Teragen members. The mysterious nova Ashnod is the most vocal opponent of the XWF.more>>>Michealite Assassination AttemptToday nova DJ and apparent Terat sympathizer Ghetto Funk Baby was the victim of an assassination attempt by an unidentified assailant thought to be a member of the Church of Micheal Archangel.Ghetto Funk Baby was removed from the scene by ambulance and her condition is rumored to be critical. The assassins's bullet struck her during a live broadcast in which she threatened violence against members of the Church of Micheal Archangel. Authorities have no comment on whether or not charges will be brought against Ghetto Funk Baby.more>>>>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Are they suing Ashnod because of her rebblerousing, or maybe they want their pound of flesh? Either way, I think the case is both bogus and unfounded.And what do I find when I check the news? One of my favorite DJs hanging by a thread. Pull through this GFB. I'm behind ya.I also wish to announce that I am offering a reward for anyone who can bring up evidence to help convict those involved. I will give out $1 Million US (split evenly) to any and all who help put these... terrorists behind bars. The Michaelites need to get shut down. I do not condone murder, and I will not stand for the potential loss of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino: Are they suing Ashnod because of her rebblerousing, or maybe they want their pound of flesh? Either way, I think the case is both bogus and unfounded.Unfounded or not, what I find interesting is how do you sue someone who does not acknowledge the legal system in question and exists outside of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan: Unfounded or not, what I find interesting is how do you sue someone who does not acknowledge the legal system in question and exists outside of it? Never stopped 'em before. Plenty of people in the past have claimed they are "outside the system." Oddly enough, the legal system doesn't care whether you recognize it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 James, its the Action Figures, man! The action Figures. Ashnod is in the top ten best selling, and don't you think that pisses off a ton of 'proper' folk.GFB now? Intolerance, I can handle. Self-inflicted stupidity, I can handle. They can hate us all they like, but turning to violence as a means of shutting one of us up?Seems that requires some personal attention. Yes, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 I've had my issues with the Michaelites before. Calling me a tool of Satan isn't a good way to get on my nice side.So I hope this girl pulls through. Terat supporter or not, two wrongs don't make a right.As for Ashnod being sued for talking people into quitting the XWF, good for her. I have my own opinions on that particular form of entertainment, and I hope she wins any case brought against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: James, its the Action Figures, man! The action Figures. Ashnod is in the top ten best selling, and don't you think that pisses off a ton of 'proper' folk.GFB now? Intolerance, I can handle. Self-inflicted stupidity, I can handle. They can hate us all they like, but turning to violence as a means of shutting one of us up?Seems that requires some personal attention. Yes, indeed. However you wish to make a point, let me know. If just for moral support I'm behind you, that I am.As for you Codex, perhaps the reason you stand against the Michaelites is also because of your beliefs? Quite frankly I have recieved a death-threat or two from them. Although most were from common thugs of their ranks who just like spreading fear. It's the ones who actually act out on their threats that should be taken care of. Prefferibly quite roughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Why do you think they called me a tool of Satan? Being Wiccan and a nova is almost the epitome of evil in their eyes.If a Michaelite tried anything on me, being Utopian or not, I'd turn them into a vegetable, and to hell with being nice.Kick butt, you two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Agreed. Go all out and run. I'm starting to pack some heat just incase. I've recently armed myself with an electro-mag pulsecaster. To put it this way, I will be jangling the nerve system of anyone that claims to be "sending me back to hell". Let's just say the highest setting risks cardiac arrest. Yes, I'm definately looking foreward to using self defense. really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Zed: Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan: Unfounded or not, what I find interesting is how do you sue someone who does not acknowledge the legal system in question and exists outside of it? Never stopped 'em before. Plenty of people in the past have claimed they are "outside the system." Oddly enough, the legal system doesn't care whether you recognize it or not. Ah yes, but in fact, Ashnod effectively is outside of the legal system. You're correct, the claim is not unusual, but the level to which she has followed through on it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 For those interested, Adamant Services provides hand to hand and anti-terrorism training as well the traditional body guard services.On the subject at hand... The Church of Micheal Archangel is not exactly known for tolerance but the article states she'd threatened violence. This is the nova known for her 'killing' dance floor isn't it? I see a media circus looming in this novas future. At the very least you can expect her next chip to go platinum from the sheer notoriety.Not to mention what it could do for the Church's PR in the proper hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Eddie, how much is the courses, and is there a branch of your firm in Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiGeist Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 You know something, Eddie, I like you already. Tell you what, are you hiring? I've been unemployed for a while, and the gig I got has jobs quite few and far between. (Pays good, but scarce.) So, I'd like to put my skills to some use. Give me a ring if you're interested.By the way, if anyone need me to go hunting, you have my bow. Just tell me where the trail is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Anti-Terrorist Tip #1:Don't make yourself a target, by make yourself as scarce as possible.Failing that, make yourself as hard to get to as possible.Eddie, care to contribute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Re: Ghetto Funk Baby.She opened her big mouth. In public. On camera. Threatened some barely sentient apes. Got shot. She's recovering nicely.Enough said.This is news? Dummy gets what she's asking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Quote:James 'Prodigy' Meehan:Ah yes, but in fact, Ashnod effectively is outside of the legal system. You're correct, the claim is not unusual, but the level to which she has followed through on it is. So she doesn't have any money or other assets to seize? Who is making money off of her image & action figures?Jager, As for not making yourself a target, we are all targets. Even Prodigy for all his reclusion is a target (although a hard one). And I for one am not willing to recluse.GFB,Pull through kiddo. The world needs music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 My impression of Ashnod leads me to believe that she has little if anything to do with those items based on her appearence that have sprung up in the marketplace. A number of Terats, acknowledging that baseline humanity cannot control their obsession with all things nova but not wishing to personally profit from that obsession, have signed their likeness rights over to a number of Terat friendly companies. These companies then use the profits to assist the cause of Teras in general. It is possible she has done the same thing.Also, what is Ashnod's 'real' name? In the course of events I've had reason to search through records, both public and secret, on nearly every individual who has frequented these forums. I've done the same with Ashnod. I could tell you some things about her past that are not public knowledge. However, I could not tell you what, if any, identity she currently uses outside of Ashnod and what assests, if any, she currently posseses. I've engaged the services of a Nova, possessing similar talents to Sakurako and DigiGeist, in my search and still nothing was found. That leads me to believe that Ashnod has either very effectively removed herself from the mundane existence of this world or she is simply exceedingly good at keeping hidden.Oh, and Preston, yes, yes, I know. I've broken the law and I'm a very bad man. Shame on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino:"Eddie, how much are the courses, and is there a branch of your firm in Japan?"Adamant Security Services prides itself on being able to meet the needs of the client at competitive rates. The exact scale would be influenced by the particular skill sets involved, the specific training requirements and the degree of willingness on the part of the client. I would be happy to make an appointment to discuss the matter in greater detail.Regretfully Adamant Security does not maintain a permanent presence in the Far East.Originally posted by DigiGeist:"Tell you what, are you hiring?"A somewhat in depth background check is required. Quite straight forward really, provided the caliber of character and reputation involved is sterling. In case of ambiguity a bond may be required and the work is contracted on a case by case basis.Originally posted by Jager:"Failing that, make yourself as hard to get to as possible.Quite. It is truly unfortunate that otherewise intelligent people fail to grasp the need for professionals.Care to contribute?Situational awareness is key coupled with the commensurate ability to act. Few possess the discipline to maintain a state of heightened alertness even knowing their lives may depend on it. Then there are the unwarranted assumptions about who, what or where is 'safe'. As perfect security is impossible without foregoing even the appearance of a life, there is a constant reorganizing of priorities that eventually and inevitably leads to vulnerability as, subconsciously, the victim assesses something to be safe merely because it is necessary that it be safe in order for them to act as they wish.The young nova DJ in question is an excellent example of this, unfortunately.Originally posted by James "Prodigy" Meeehan:Or she is simply exceedingly good at keeping hidden.Perhaps. Consider that the act of finding anything is merely a question of looking in the proper locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Well, after the trip, I'll be sure to stop by one of your offices. I can get pretty much anywhere without too much hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Havana is lovely at this time of year and certainly less chilly than Japan. You're are of course correct on the ease of entry into the country. Please be certain to provide your itinerary and Adamant Security will ensure a pleasant arrival and stay.Hopefully your imminent trip will be as pleasant a journey as your future trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Agreed. I'll send off the material needed as soon as I get things planned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West McCloud Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan: A number of Terats, acknowledging that baseline humanity cannot control their obsession with all things nova but not wishing to personally profit from that obsession, have signed their likeness rights over to a number of Terat friendly companies.Question.How can you sign over your legal rights if you claim the legal system doesn't apply to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 3, 2003 Share Posted December 3, 2003 Not all terats ignore the baseline legal world, namely The Count, and Lemmy's favorite Lady. I believe their worldly fortunes are quite extensive, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastian Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 Perhaps we should place the Michaelites in a massive "CAGE MATCH", with some reward being granted for Most Killed and Most Creative Punishment.Ghetto Funk Baby was an artist and a guardian of her house. Those that strike at even the least of us, or our servants, hold a spear to our breast. I think these people have moved them to far from the face of the Divine, and need to return to God post haste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 *laughs*Didn't they try that in Ancient Rome, Bastian?On a more serious note, sinking to their level makes you no better than them. Defending yourself is one thing, but vengeance is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Anytime anyone, nova or baseline human, invokes God/any divine being, I wince.Wasn't Sandy Davis the last one of us who claimed to talk to God? Look were she ended up.If you are going to do anything, admit that you are doing it for personal reasons, okay?I have been attacked by Michaelites, and they damn near killed me. I hold the individuals who attacked and tortured me responsible for their actions. I don't expect people to love me. Even people who hate me, are free to do so. If you cross that line into action, you become fair game for whatever justice you seek to met out.Oh, for the ones who got away;I haven't forgotten you, and this isn't over. I owe you for my mother, and you are going to regret not letting my father capture you. I am not him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Neil, you speak of someone who lives with many problems.Her faith isn't one of them.As the saying goes.I care not to what you prey to,I only care what you do in it's name.Do, you think hungry should not be helped?That, we should think of more than our selves?So, sorry if you missed the message,maybe next time you will not plug your ears.Oh if you wish to say I am being hypocritical, by all means do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Originally posted by Signy Malory:Oh if you wish to say I am being hypocritical, by all means do so. It's a poor businessman that engages in making derogatory observations on the personal traits of potential clients. Discretion is a necessary trait. For your consideration; one of the many services available upon retaining Adamant Security is a qualified publicist to take over the task of dealing with correspondence that some find quite arduous.I look forward to the opportunity of showcasing the services available for your perusal.Originally posted by West McCloud:How can you sign over your legal rights if you claim the legal system doesn't apply to you?Speaking as someone that finds it necessary to be familiar with both U.S. domestic and international law, I believe I can clear this matter up. While stewardship or ownership of intellectual property and images can be transferred to another within most legal system, there are other means. Failure to exercise rights of ownership can also constitute a de facto transfer of ownership.For instance, assume a comic book character wearing a pentagonal 'S' symbol on his chest actually existed. One day he notices that same symbol is being used to represent, oh say a courier service. While this may not be a terrible thing, the man from another planet has to consider that some will think this means he's endorsing the service. Further, if other companies begin using the symbol and remain unchallenge, he's effectively allowed the symbol representing himself and his works to become public domain and usable by anyone. In such a situation he'll have to take time away from leaping tall buildings to lament the fact he'd never copyrighted the image or symbol and then hire a lawyer to defend his. If he did not then he will have effectively given ownership away.For a real life example you have only to look to the formerly unchallenged success of Novation. The premier company marketing a variety of nova memorabilia, they made the mistake of assuming individual Terragen members would not defend ownership rights. And while that assumption was not entirely unreasonable they forgot that simply because someone like Mal doesn't bother with such niceties doesn't mean there are not others willing to represent his rights. Adamant Security cannot recommend investing in Novation though Pandemonium Productions gives the appearance of taking the number one spot after litigation is complete. I can only guess as to what happens with the monies involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Ms. Malory, what's the saying?Give a man a fish, and he eats today. Teach him to fish, and he can feed himself for the rest of his life.The world is full of hungry people.A person who thinks of the world without thinking of themselves will help neither.I don't know if you are being hypocritical. I don't know you. I get the feeling you don't really know me, either.I certainly don't rush to judgement, and I dont' ignore people out of hand.So, what was the message you were trying to give? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Funny thing about being hit by a high powered sniper rifle in the head.It tends to stop what ever you were saying.But am I lucky they aimed for my head.They may hit something important next time.Now, I do not advocate any illegal actions.I simply see that cult is a threat to everyone.And needs to be closed down.I do not care about nova hate groups.I do care about my staff.This the only place they could work and have a life.The hate mongers can hate me all they want.But my staff is just as "human" as they are.As for being teragen.Please.I simply have enemies, that are also enemies of the teragen.the foe, of a foe,may not be your friend,but it is better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Ah, the enemy of my enemy is my friend theory. In simple black and white situations there is a kernal of truth but real life is rarely so concise.I've taken the liberty of forwarding an Adamant Security brochure to your club for perusing at your convenience. If you'd like to apply for the services offered please contact the numbers enclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Security is in details, and you seem to miss a lot of them.I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Heh. I had my doubts that a rifle round would drop the GFB. Great to hear that the Funk's hartbeat is still dropping the base. In perfect rythym.As for the security details that Adamant provided, you think that they would reveal their methods? Trust me, My dad told me about how the Military for every fact released, there are 100 secrets. As for Adamant, I'm sure that they have a similar ratio. Why you think I will be hiring their services to protect Endeavor Point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Becuase Miss Hino you do not know who I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Ghetto Funk Baby: Security is in details, and you seem to miss a lot of them.I'll pass. Fewer than you might otherwise imagine but we'll let the record of Adamant Security speak for itself, shall we. Fortunately for you, you have the opportunity to do so this time.Truly you would do best to retain someone and I can recommend several capable firms. Luck, as with with natural talent of the quantum or baseline variety, only takes you so far. As you've recently discovered the greater world is somewhat less safe than the limited boundaries of a club. Do feel free to keep the brochure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Eddie, you might want to let this one pass. Why ruin your hard-earned rep on someone who would rather handle things their own way.Here is the skinny for you:-The attack GFB was deliberately provoked.-Disinformation was given ahead of time, so the GFB was never really in danger.-Misinformation has been provided to mislead the investigation.-The key piece of information is unidentified assailant thought to be a member of the Church of Micheal Archangel. Since when has the CoMA not taken credit for their actions?Unknown assailant? In the District of Columbia? Using Military Grade hardware.Is ole Jager the only one here to smell a rat?Eddie, save the lives of people that need some saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Signy Malory: Becuase Miss Hino you do not know who I know? This isn't the schoolyard, Signy. Saying "I know something you don't know" is usually a bad thing among novas. I'd gather that Jager is already sniffing around to find out just what you know.You want to know why saying such things is bad? Let me put it like this, secrets are better kept by not letting others know you got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Baby Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Eddie CyClone, you missed a few things,in a few posts right here.One,I never said the foe ,of my foe was my friend.I said the foe of my foe is better than nothing.I wasn't at my club during the attack.I was at my office,witch is 20 odd miles away, from my club.No one that knows me,sends mail to my Club.My club is not that sort of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West McCloud Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Eddie CyClone: For a real life example you have only to look to the formerly unchallenged success of Novation. The premier company marketing a variety of nova memorabilia, they made the mistake of assuming individual Terragen members would not defend ownership rights. And while that assumption was not entirely unreasonable they forgot that simply because someone like Mal doesn't bother with such niceties doesn't mean there are not others willing to represent his rights. Adamant Security cannot recommend investing in Novation though Pandemonium Productions gives the appearance of taking the number one spot after litigation is complete. Ah.So people who claim the legal system does not apply to them... used a legal maneuver to protect their interests.A legal maneuver. For people who don't want to live under the rule of law....Mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Cyclone Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: Eddie, you might want to let this one pass.Thank you for the gracious concern. The services of Adamant Security were not being offered to this person. While I did advertised the presence of the company to all and actively solicted the patronage of some, this person was only offered the opportunity to apply for the service. The decision to take this approach was not personal per se. Protecting a client's property and well being is my stock in trade, protecting them from themselves or engaging in life decision debates is not. I have standards. Adamant Security is not a grocery and the ability to pay is not the sole prerequisite for doing business with me. I do stand by the recommendation for this individual to retain the service of professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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