Cody Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Didn't want to bump my own topic so I started this one. Couple of things going on here. Like...1. I'm still waiting on Prodigy to tell me how he knew my mamma's maiden name by way of cousin Cyrus was "Stone"?2. Anybody got someone like Cyrus Stone in the family tree? Someone that shouldn'ta been if there ain't no novas before '98? Yeah, yeah, I know your uncle spat cola out his nose, kept magazines in his freezer and married is sister in law. I ain't talking about crazy family shit. Got a few of those in the tree too.Just seems to me if this is all in the genes then there should a been something going on before '98. Ain't been able find anything on the net except silly season shit. Like I said somewhere else - lots of folks know about Cyrus but there ain't nothing I can find unless its in family clippings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Cody: Didn't want to bump my own topic so I started this one. Couple of things going on here. Like...1. I'm still waiting on Prodigy to tell me how he knew my mamma's maiden name by way of cousin Cyrus was "Stone"?I have in my possession the notebook of one Nathan Brown, journalist and apparently general pain in the neck. Three entries in the book refer to one 'Cyrus Stone, strongman and hero'. Mention is also made of stories written about Cyrus, but I've been able to come across nothing supporting this claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 We talking pre-N-Day Novas? Not something you hear on N! is it? Would have thought there'd be records.Of course in the London underworld there's the old urban legend of The Spectre from back in the 20's. Some crimelord who got backstabbed and returned from the grave to wage war on his fellow gangsters to atone for his sins. I remember chatting to some old boy in a pub who said he'd seen The Spectre walking out of a boozer that used to be thug central. Masked guy in a white suit who just faded from view as he walked off. The old fella said he'd peeked his head round the door and seen every strong-armer, leg-breaker, and knee-capper in there had been beaten half to death.Weird innit? Sounds like one of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Quote:Sounds like one of us.Nope. We are all peace-loving, Quaker types. Would harm a soul, no sirreah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 *scratches head*Sounds like some stories people had about my great grandmother. The story goes while on an expedition to Egypt, a tomb wall collapsed, and struck my great grandmother in the head. After she recovered from her coma, she could read and cloud minds. As well as move objects by thought. Naturally enough, as soon as the Imperial Japanese government at the time found out, she was cought and concripted during WWII. Of course, we all know how that war ended. Anyways, Great Grandmother retired from view, and quietly raised a family. The rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Mr Meehan: Three entries in the book refer to one 'Cyrus Stone, strongman and hero'.Sir, I would dearly love to see that book. If for some reason this can't be, might I get a look at them pages what talk about cousin Cyrus? Know you ain't beholden to me but it would truly mean a lot. Ain't had much luck finding out much about the man. Family remembers a bit. Found a grand total of three new paper articles what got stuffed away, including one that might have some to do with what this reporter talked about, but that's about it. Ain't even figured out who he worked for back east except the company brought him to Chicago when he was hired.Sphere: Weird innit? Sounds like one of us.It does! You'd a thought stuff like that would make more of a splash. Articles, new reports... somthing. It's like folks just didn't give a damn but that can't be right.Jager: Nope. We are all peace-loving, Quaker types. Would harm a soul, no sirreah.Tell that to the glow worm with a mouth.Miss Hino: Sounds like some stories people had about my great grandmother.She was drafted? Sounds to me like more than superstition at work. What'd they have her doing during the war? And how'd she keep it quiet after the war ended with us winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Quite frankly, there are alot of questions I've yet to answer, and no files to find. Everything was destroyed when the generals involved were destroying evidence of warcrimes. My great grandmother was practically dead record wise. In the chaos of the American occupation, she was able to establish a new identity. I am still trying to figure out just what is legend, what is myth, and what is real in this issue.My curiosity is 2 fold. 1: For some reason the paranormal is strong in my family. before my Great Grandmother's time, my family line was a line of mystics. 2: Everyone after my Great Grandmother have some sort of file on them (even if it's only 1 sheet) on record at Aeon. Some say in some bloodlines there is a predisposition to some strange ability. Such as Psionics or in my case, the disposition to become a Nova.As for my Great Grandmother being drafted, if you consider being taken at gunpoint and being kept in a basement level of a military base being drafted, then I'm glad I'm not in America, because slective service is a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 What the hell is a charity group like AEON doing record keeping on your family for? Makes sense about the bloodline thing. If its all gene stuff anyway.We did away with the draft back in the 60's or 70's. Hell of a long time ago anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Grant Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Who's AEON? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 AEON = Project Utopia. They fund the bloody thing. Also check out your library for newspaper reports from the 1920's. Remember the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" comicbooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Craft Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 The Aeon Society does partially fund Utopia (though these days the Project is almost self-supporting). However, it should be pointed out that there are very few Aeon Society members in positions within the Project.Yeah, the 20's were weird - but don't trust the papers. Back then they printed all sorts of sensationalist crap. For instance, in 1925 the New York Times published an article stating that Himalayan explorers had discovered a vast subterranean civilization of neanderthal-like 'mole-men.' I'm not joking - look for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Who the hell is rich enough to fund a bunch like Utopia? And if they fund them then what's with all the companies PU owns like Novelty Consulting and Triton? Miss Hino: Remember the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" comicbooks?Not really. Leastwise it don't ring a bell. How'd we get from family trees and Aeon to comic books?Mr Craft: I'm not joking - look for yourself.My favorite is the folks what claimed to have found a race of moon men looking through their big ass telescope. Folks even started donating money to send missionaries and save them poor heathens from their simple life. 'course this was 1905 and there weren't no way up to the moon.This is what I meant when I said I couldn't find nothing but silly season shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Cody, I'd be happy to forward you the book. I have my copies and test results verifying it's authenticity. You shall have it arriving via courier this evening, someone with teleportational skills owes me a favor. I hope this is of some use to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Thank you, sir.You know it just came to my mind that now I owe someone that's on Utopia's most wanted list somewhere below Mr Mal and above Sluice. I'm good with it. Someone's knocking at the door. Your fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Endeavor, your GGM was wanted for WarCrimes by the Russians and Chinese at the end of the WWII. Certain someones helped her hide her existance and get a new identity. Certain someones who were big in post-war relief and some of the factors around Marshal and the Marshal Plan for reconstruction.For more info, look into the activities of a Col. Hargami Sohoi and his "research unit". Founded in 1938, and your GGM 'joined' the next year. Her being drafted is a lie. The whole unit was composed of volunteers. I know this because she wasn't the only one to survive. In those days most japanese believed the emperor to be an instrument of the divine and service to him, and the land was pretty expected. I imagine your GGM was honored to even be asked to contribute to the war effort.Afterwards, from what I have been told, many intellectuals became disenchanted with what they were asked to do against the Chinese. I don't doubt she hated what she was asked to do, but what outs did she have? Take a look around some of her stuff. Feel around for anything sown into the linings of her clothing. I was told the women were issued cyanide capsules, but that info is second hand.I can understand why she would have told her children that she was drafted. By the end, she pretty much felt trapped. Post-war Japan was a very different place and I doubt they would have understood.Not too different from today, people who 'did stuff' knew of other people who did stuff. Those were interesting times, or so I'm told.Cyrus Stone is a tale for another time. Let me see what the old man can dig up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 20, 2003 Author Share Posted November 20, 2003 Your related to a Mata Hari, Miss Hino?That's kind of cool. Thanks for the help, Jager. I'm obliged for any and all. This trail is cold but it surely does surprise a fellah at what can be found when you start looking at things a certain way. It's a little like sneaking up on a deer. Come from down wind, best not to look direct at them, act like your going somewhere else and then pull the knife when your ready to use it.Thanks for the book, Mr Meehan. It gives me an idea for something else to check. Let you know if it pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Cody: Thank you, sir.You know it just came to my mind that now I owe someone that's on Utopia's most wanted list somewhere below Mr Mal and above Sluice. I'm good with it. Someone's knocking at the door. Your fast. You flatter me. I doubt I rank anywhere near 'name' Terats in Utopia's eyes. I'm nothing more than a mouthy little Nova with total disregard for their technical guidelines. I simply don't share my work with the baseline world, thus making me simply annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 This was really interesting so I asked around my own family but came up a blank. The most interesting thing any of my relatives did in the 20's was emigrate to the colonies. One of my Great Uncles who was in the navy during WWII did say that there was this top secret department that had a psychic that used a pendulum and a map to find German U-Boats, make of that what you will.Myself, I saw a curious thing through the mists of time while training myself to look back as well as forward. Someone in 1987 picked a car up to rescue someone that was trapped underneath. I know everyone has heard that chestnut before but this seemed to be more than just adrenalin and lifting one side of a car up. In this case the car, five door saloon BTW, was completely off the ground being held by one corner and then tossed a few metres. A bit like you see Kikjak do it on N!Prime. The date was 17th March (that's if I hit the date I was trying to) and the location looked to be somewhere in Western Europe. I've looked but I can't find any news reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Jager, thanks for the research, but you've just covered the last bit of ground that leads to a cliff into darkness. In other words, there isn't anything beyond that. I checked your leads, but there are missing (destroyed) files. Unfortunately this was before Japan had Microfilm or Memeograph machines. Not to mention everyhting was written on paper that doesn't age well. So, if there is any leads I will have to check on my end. At the very least the Japanese government has been friendly in helping me on the search. They're just as curious about GGM as I. I did spot a Cyanide pill in her personal effects that I keep near the family shrine. Indeed, they gave her a cyanide pill. The bastards (Those of the Imperial Regime) expected a girl no older than 17 to kill herself if caught. My GGM was only a girl interested in world history, not making it. Don't look badly on her. Even my mother had respect for the woman.It's sad I'm the only member of the family in recent history NOT to be committing atrocities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Never said she did, E-chan. Remember, different times, different was of viewing the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I know. But I do feel some obligation.For my Great Grandmother and my Mother.Especially with the things Mother still has mucking about in the unseen places. Why do you think I've been putting money I got into retrieval/destruction of her tech? It's too dangerous.As for GGM, well, that is harder to fix. Perhaps she may have found peace later in life or even in the great unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Since we are sharing family histories, after Jager and Atwight wetted my interest in the strangeness that has occured in the not too distant past I did a little checking of my own into my family history.I was a late child, my parents did not procreate until their late 40's. The same for my grandfather, James 'Jimmy' Meehan. He was born 1900, youngest child in a large family, six brothers. Not particularly gifted in any way recognizable through records or family histories. In the late 20's however he started to amass great wealth. Through gambling, poker to be specific. If you sift through the right places stories are still told of his exploits at the table and the tall tales he used to tell. Even allowing for the hyperbole of myth he was a remarkable man. Very remarkable.It is nice I have to admit, to chat about something of so little consequence with you all. To discourse without bringing up philosophy, science, politics or murder.Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Don't know who my dad was. My mom was pretty super, but in the ways mom's can be. Since she never wanted me to know her side of the family, I never looked. Sorry. Nothing spooky from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I have heard about things that were odd, but nothing like the novas we know today. One of the oddest is tale. Back during prohibition, it seems there was this master pilot who ran whiskey and rum from ship to shore. He really rubbed the Coast Guard's nose in in, so this CG commander put a .30 caliber Machinegun on his launch and went after the rumrunner. Found him, too. When they found the wreck of the boat on shore, after a half hour chase, the deckhouse was blown to splinters. There was no way this guy could have lived and piloted that boat, yet that is what everyone says happened.Maybe there was someone back then that was boucing .30 caliber off his hide back then. Maybe the Coast Guardsmen were just lousy shots.The rumrunner was never convicted, but died of cancer in 1943. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 *laughs*Rawk. A Nova who ran bootleg booze up and down the coastline. Now that is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 Captain Preston never said the runner was a nova, Miss Hino. Being born in Japan it mightn't make sense to you but there was this thing called Prohibition. Whole friggin' country tried to outlaw alcohol - calling it the nobel experiment - and it gave a leg up to lots of folks running the stuff up from Mexico or down from Canada. Hear tell there was a lot of it flowing in from Cuba too or home brew out of my neck of the woods. Lots of them was folks just trying to make their way in the world but there's a few stories out there like that one.Shift through old papers enough and you find stuff like this. Think I ran across Prodigy's grandpa in one of them papers and didn't know he was relation. The story is a fella named Jimmy Meehan what got in a shoot out in San Francisco with some chinamen. Suppose to have taken a shot from a big ass Webley pistol right to the chest but the slug got caught in a bible stuffed in his coat pocket by some holy roller telling him it would save his life. Which I guess it did. A Webley, for them as might not know it, was the great grandpa of the magnum. More a hand canon than a pistol. Only things nastier was a shotgun and a tommygun and even they wasn't as good at putting big mothering holes in revenuers. Makes me wonder how a bible stopped one of them things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Look up, "Mouser" a small time working lady a long time ago.It was said she could make anyone fall in love with her, and said more than one man was killed for, or becuase of her.Now, you will not find much in news parers, but you may ask why i bring this up.Well Mouse, was at least 50 year old before dropping off the face of the earth.When photos of her was taken in 1906 threw in 1940 and she stayed looking the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Curious that this hasn't come up yet:Why now?What changed that allowed hundreds, then thousands of humans to develop the ability to manipulate quantum? If it was evolution, what was the stimuli that sparked this leap?Will it happen again, in a different way?Will it stop happening?Has it happened before?Alot of people did things, or were reported doing things, that today would hardly make us blink twice. We would just say "nova" and go on with our lives.Folks, a man ripped off as set of bronze doors with his bare hands. Think about it. A man.Any creature that thinks it is alone in the woods is doomed to be someone else's meal.Those who do not learn of their history are doomed to repeat it.Its really a matter of perspective.If we think of these people as novas, aren't we jumping the gun? Were/are there other possibilities?Me, I love a mystery. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: Curious that this hasn't come up yet:Why now?Why the Galataea of course. Isn't that the whole, unvarnished truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Isn't that the whole, unvarnished truth?Yes, and I'm a twelve-year old Quaker child living in Zambia.Normally I don't worry about why we are here, but when I do, none of the patent explanations make sense.-No, I don't think it was space debris.-No, I don't just chalk it up to evolution. There have been some interesting explainations about critical mass in the human population/conciousness, but that rings out as more wishful thinking than fact.-Divis Mal is behind it all? Okay, but why? Frankly, is any one nova that powerful, and that powerful before N-Day, even if he was a nova back then?-Project Utopia is behind it all? Again, why, were did they get the power to do this, and why have they made such a hash of the whole job? I believe Project Utopia still doesn't know why novas appeared, and that bothers them.-Alien invasion and experimentation? Really now ... Supersoldiers for an upcoming war/to sowing dissention into the earth's population (by introducing a race of superbeings?)/yadda, yadda, yadda.-the list goes on.How about this one:We don't know yet.Sorry about deviating in your thread, Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Jager: Curious that this hasn't come up yet:Why now?What changed that allowed hundreds, then thousands of humans to develop the ability to manipulate quantum? If it was evolution, what was the stimuli that sparked this leap?Will it happen again, in a different way?Will it stop happening?Has it happened before?Alot of people did things, or were reported doing things, that today would hardly make us blink twice. We would just say "nova" and go on with our lives.Folks, a man ripped off as set of bronze doors with his bare hands. Think about it. A man.Any creature that thinks it is alone in the woods is doomed to be someone else's meal.Those who do not learn of their history are doomed to repeat it.Its really a matter of perspective.If we think of these people as novas, aren't we jumping the gun? Were/are there other possibilities?Me, I love a mystery. Anyone else? There is only one other explaination: Der Wille zer Macht. If someone has a strong enough will, they themselves can do something extraordinary. Either that, or those mutants we read about in Comic Books are real. After all, if Novas exist, why can't Mutants? Or Mages? Hell, I'd bet even odds tehre's Werewolves and Vampires mucking about.Jager, I will give even odds that there are things in the shadows and cracks of this world that'd scare Pax and Mal enough to make them pee in their tights.And you can quote me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 I think we are the mutants, Miss Hino.Other than that I kind of like your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Cody, I'm no mutant. I'm a Magical Girl. ~.^.........Hehe. Always wanted to say that. But really, I just have this feeling we aren't the true "mutants", since our expressing of the node is not genetically "written" in our genetics. Unless you're tainted up the ass, your genes don't show you are any different that before your eruption. Perhaps a little better than before (birth defects and what not cleaned out of the gene code), but otherwise you are who you are. I'm not sure how the Terats do their stuff and how it changes them, but I doubt one of their esteemed masses would donate a blood sample.Forgive a kid for being curious, but I sometimes have questions that have rather unorthodox methods for answering them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiGeist Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Endeavor-chan, they'd rather take a blood sample from you. As well as your organs, and your bones, well, pretty much anything. Usually in a technicolor masterpeice of Jackson Pollack proportions.I heard you like abstract art, but I doubt you want to actually BE it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 25, 2003 Author Share Posted November 25, 2003 Stop messing with Miss Hino. And lots of novas with problems don't got anything to do with the teragen. Can't quite picture Miss Ashnod or Mr Meehan finger painting anyway. Maybe your just hanging out with the wrong crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 25, 2003 Share Posted November 25, 2003 Uh, Cody, put the six-shooters away. Digi wasn't messing with me. It was a fair warning to keep me safe, that's all. I appreciate you backing me up and all, Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 How about this?We help out who we wish to help out, don't take sides, and learn a little toleration.I will say this on the Family Matters side of things; novas share some similar traits, though genetics (as it is presently understood) isn't one of them.We all use quantum.We all have extended natural lifespans. This second aspect is so heavily ingrained in our forms, no matter how weak or strong we are, that I find it to be a keystone factor in who and what we are. I find this trait so ingrained, that I theorize that it would be in existant in "proto-novas", if they ever existed.Anyone have particularly long-lived and healthy relatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 26, 2003 Author Share Posted November 26, 2003 Neil: We help out who we wish to help out, don't take sides, and learn a little toleration.'Kay. Sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Aaagggghhhh .... my bad.Should read:I will say this on the Family Matters side of things; novas share some similar traits, genetics (as it is presently understood) being one of them.Note to self: Must sleep once every five days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 Neil, sleep is not the only thing you need. Perhaps a day or two away from research or what not also helps. People risk burn out other-wise. I'm a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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