Sakurako Hino Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 I don't know if this qualifies as a MAJOR discovery, but I think I've invented a cloaking device against visual light!!!How I pulled it off was simple enough, I had thought of making an array of light emmitting chromatophores, and had microscopic focussing lenses attached to them. I then allowed them to produce the exact opposite light frequency as the light hitting them. The result? An invisible ball. Since I coated a tennis ball with the polymer.What's even more astounding, is how cheaply I made it.I'm still testing it out in variable lighting conditions, to see how adaptible the photonic adaptation polymer is, but if this works, I could put this stuff on ANYTHING!Any comments from the supergeniuses out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 You just live to piss off Utopia don't you? I like that about you, Miss Hino. Ain't in the group you called for but know a fair bit about putting things together. Congrats on the new toy. I'm sure the doing of it was harder than you make it sound. Before you go advertising it you might want to think about a couple of things.Besides who's doing what to your privacy right now, I mean. Cheap is kind of a relative thing ain't it? The bits your talking about ain't sold at S-Mart or Tech Surplus. Ain't saying there can't be a load of folks wanting in but I imagine its going to cost a fair bit. And after they pay out that cash folks is going to be a tad miffed to find out invisible's a relative thing too.It's a nice trick though. Ain't seen anyone but a nova pull it off. Hmmm... Occurs to me to wonder if your node actually has that off switch you think it does. Guess we'll find out eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 I can think of all kinds of uses for this.Invisible guns (carry them openly and anywhere).Invisible tanks.Invisible assassins (can you put it on clothes?).Invisible cars (use with care, but still good for a quick getaway).Invisible missiles. (First strike).Invisible planes (good for dropping troops or for launching attacks).Yes. Many varied uses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 does said ball reflect only "visible" light?And does said coating have enough power to reflect the sun's rays?As for military useage,Ha.The US army had something like this back in 92.they reasoned that it was pointless on almost anything you would want or need to put it on.As visible light is offten never used for spoting or finding targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 I know that the US had been working on it. Where did you think I got the inspiration?Not to mention the research I did was actually started as a Baseline project back in the early 90s. I just figured out where they went wrong.If worse comes to worse, at least now I have a better way to change the colors on clothing/cars/what not.Basically, the principle works on this: The objects we see around us reflect even a small bit of light. This polymer skin pretty much cancels out certain wavelegnths or even all wavelegnths of light. It then puts out it's own. Causing an "invisibility" effect, or one of the user's choosing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Cody: You just live to piss off Utopia don't you? I like that about you, Miss Hino. Ain't in the group you called for but know a fair bit about putting things together. Congrats on the new toy. I'm sure the doing of it was harder than you make it sound. Before you go advertising it you might want to think about a couple of things.Besides who's doing what to your privacy right now, I mean. Cheap is kind of a relative thing ain't it? The bits your talking about ain't sold at S-Mart or Tech Surplus. Ain't saying there can't be a load of folks wanting in but I imagine its going to cost a fair bit. And after they pay out that cash folks is going to be a tad miffed to find out invisible's a relative thing too.It's a nice trick though. Ain't seen anyone but a nova pull it off. Hmmm... Occurs to me to wonder if your node actually has that off switch you think it does. Guess we'll find out eventually. To answer your post, I simply say this: I work within the palette given me via the S&T accords approved by the UN. Not to mention there are MANY loopholes when it comes to tech already developed or theorized by Humankind.As for my node, it's still ther when the lights are off, I'm just not using it. A number of novas have this gift, all one has to do is see if they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Miss Hino, those accords is probably the shortest thing what ever come from lawyers and politicians. Its says Utopia is god when it comes to this. It didn't sit well with a lot of Americans on general principle but even the USA didn't bitch too much at the time. It ain't right to my way of thinking but I guess that's how much it scared folks when a whole city went *pfft* one day. Loopholes? The only one you can complain to is the same one making the rules - Utopia. Fuck with them and folks get locked away for a few years. And that's just while they decide what they want to charge you with. I dearly hope your just messing with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino: I don't know if this qualifies as a MAJOR discovery, but I think I've invented a cloaking device against visual light!!!Major to baselines? Yes. Major to Novas? Not by a long shot my sweet. Still, very nice work. Congratulations. Now you can unleash on baseline society yet another piece of technology they aren't prepared to handle. Maybe it can be the next hypercombustion engine and wipe out the economies of a dozen nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West McCloud Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Relax, Sakurako. If you wind up in serious violation of technological regulations, I'll be the first to let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 West McCloud: If you wind up in serious violation of technological regulations, I'll be the first to let you know.A 'toppie with a sense of humor? That makes three of them. And this one is S&T to boot? I guess judgment day is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwriter Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Cody, I do hope I'm one of those three.Very interesting discovery, Endeavour. Though science is far from my 'thing' - actually, I avoid it like the bubonic plague - good luck with it. If nothing else, you could work with it and create something for baselines that's akin to living eufiber for novas, at least colour-wise.Codex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 15, 2003 Author Share Posted November 15, 2003 Thanks West.Although, you are a new voice around here. Stopped in because I've been creative lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 15, 2003 Author Share Posted November 15, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Regan 'Codex' McLachlan: Cody, I do hope I'm one of those three.Very interesting discovery, Endeavour. Though science is far from my 'thing' - actually, I avoid it like the bubonic plague - good luck with it. If nothing else, you could work with it and create something for baselines that's akin to living eufiber for novas, at least colour-wise.Codex Well, althought it isn't as versitile as Eufiber, Hinopolymer is quite close. Although it's pretty much an overglorified type of plastic/rubber type polymer, you can do pretty nice stuff with it when manufactured with memory-polymer qualities.Not to mention I've been thinking of getting into the custom clothing business for Novas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Codex: Cody, I do hope I'm one of those three.Yep. Actually there's four of you. Paragon, V, You and now West. V's got the top spot even though she won't come around just for giving the best sum up ever of Davis. I think her exact words was;"What. The. Fuck. Ever."Seemed to hit all the high points. For me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 Endeavor, check out the heat variables, and the olfactory vectors are way off the charts. After four hours, they really start to stink up the place so that a baseline might notice, and a chem sniffer definitely would. IR-wise, I found it pretty easy to spot. It sends out a ripple effect.I figure you stayed away from the UV emitters.All in all, I found it pretty good stuff.Invisible novas are in no danger of losing their jobs, but it has several unlooked for uses.For instance:Holo-balloons - While screwing around with some helium balloons made of the stuff, we found that we could suspend a micro-emitter on the inside and exhibit logos on the outside. Damn MachineFolk and her love of BladeRunner.Window Blinds - by running a mild current through it, you can suspend the polymers function, thus creating blinds. Flip the switch, and you have your window again.Combat-wise, I wouldn't recommend the stuff. Too easily damaged in normal wear and tear to be useful. If this stuff gets dust and/or dirt on it, it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 16, 2003 Author Share Posted November 16, 2003 I'm working on the stink, there seems to be a burn in created by the bio-mimetic polymer that the chromatophores are based off of. It resembles the smell of Ozone. It should be locked down shortly.As for combat, no go. It's more designed for color-shifting. Although Invisibility is a good gimick. If I apply a clear hinopolymer over it though, it should have some protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West McCloud Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino: Thanks West.Although, you are a new voice around here. Stopped in because I've been creative lately? Should I have? No, in all honesty, I heard there was a high concentration of gearheads here quite some time ago. Once or twice I've been able to use data collected here to prove or disprove the case for paticular chunks of tech being classified as 'black.' I ask novas about this stuff straight to their faces and they clam up, but just staying quiet and listening seems to work well.I didn't speak up until that posting about Alejandra being sued, mostly because I have what has to be by a factor of 300 the most vilified job on this board. You would think I killed Christ. But I figured, hey, what's the worst they can do to me besides kill me, my family, and my hometown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 McCloud, just as long as you understand most of the toys I use aren't in places you can touch, we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Just as long as you remember Sandy, that all the toys you use are in places that I can touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 West, I'm DEFINITELY not that type. I am well aware of the purposes of the S&T. There are novas out there that didn't get what it was about, including my mother. Even I was brainwashed. Untill I saw first hand what a Nova's carelessness can do to someone. I'm not into designing black-tech as much as others. I feel more accomplishment taking something Humanity abandoned as "impossible" without finishing it. As long as it is safe of course. ~.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Not all off them, dear Jorden.Not even you can reach my dearest toy.If you find it, you will find one most fanatic defender you have ever seen.And you shall not pass this one.Endeavor, as much as others?I do not kill as much as others, and some people think I am blood thisty. Becuase you do not make as much black tech as others, do you think others should treat you well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Actually Sandy, I should rephrase that. I must have been allowing my thoughts to drift...I DON'T make black tech like others. Quite frankly, why should I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Well, mean what you say, and say what you mean.Because whe you say something like that I could take it in many ways.You may have noticed that you are small fish in a rather large pond.So be careful of those who you do not know, and those who call friends.In the end, the friends and loved ones are those that can hurt you the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Sandee, how many fucking times have you said shit you later said you didn't mean? That you were jerking peoples chains and all? Shit, pot and fucking kettle. Lay of Endeavor. She's a nice little chick and she don't need you all up in her face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sandy Davis: Well, mean what you say, and say what you mean.Because whe you say something like that I could take it in many ways.You may have noticed that you are small fish in a rather large pond.So be careful of those who you do not know, and those who call friends.In the end, the friends and loved ones are those that can hurt you the most. What?I do get the first part, but you have just gone way off field for the last part of that message. So, you say I'm a small fish in a big pond? I doubt that. You see, the pond is only as big as the point of view of the fish. You think you're a Shark in the middle of the Pacific, but you're only a Guppy in a fishbowl. Your world is much smaller than you realize, because you've closed your mind to the single truth of your existance. You're a scared child looking for protection behind a facade of power. You tout yourself to be a god, Sandy, yet you haven't shown the wrath of one when angered. All I see is a scared toddler hiding behind her mother's skirt.I can more adeuqately handle myself. That's all I wish to control. You want to control every atom's movement within a 500 light year radius. You cannot control probability, Miss Davis. Deal with it, you aren't god, only a scared animal who fears being caged. I no longer worry about everyone else. Unless it is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by West McCloud: ... Once or twice I've been able to use data collected here to prove or disprove the case for paticular chunks of tech being classified as 'black.' I ask novas about this stuff straight to their faces and they clam up, but just staying quiet and listening seems to work well. I'm curious Mr McVillian What does S&T think of the Bloody Big Space Telescope that us Leaguers are gradually building out beyond Jupiter? Are they perhaps worried about the supersensitive array elements we've invented and think that we're going to be using it to study the heavenly body of Mrs Jones who lives nextdoor to the League Headquarters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Two things:Sandy, please don't go baiting Jordon. See, I now feel I owe him one and setting a challenge up like that is just begging him to put the old team together again.And ...Damn!!!!! Its been a while since Endeavor has felt the need to put the smack on somebody.Every little hair on her head is precious to me, and to some "badass" it means even more. Sandy, you ain't touching Endeavor because there are things you still care about and you don't want to see what avenging comes in the wake of Endeavor's misfortune. Consider that a friendly warning. I'm constrained like that. He isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Endeavor, you see what you want to see.Trust me, I am not throwing around wrath, as it would lead to things that not many want to see.Or would you like to the north east of America turned to ash?And if Jorden wants to try to find my toy, he can.He wants a challenge, go for it, but just remember.Once you cross that their is no turning back, and you may not come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 So, Sandy, threatening my neck of the woods ... while on bail, no less. Or, are you in some sort of protective custody somewhere?Whatever. This farce is giving new fire to the NorthEastern Containment Facility like nothing else could. If it wasn't for the fact that there is an undercurrent movement to deny all any arrested nova their constitutional rights, I would be pleased.Now I have to wonder how much longer I can do my job. I am not going be anyone's concentration camp guard.If they draft me, as some have suggested, I guess they can just warm up my cell. I am not going to be a part to any of that insanity. This is not why I became a cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I know Captain Preston though it seems pretty obvious you don't. You just fucked up in a big way. I'm going get myself a big ol' barrel of popcorn to eat and watch this shit go down. Captain Preston think about taking some time off and doing what got to be done private like. Know what I mean? One thing I done figured out is when novas talk folks listen. You got more than a couple of us what wouldn't mind standing alonside when you let folks know what the hell is going behind closed doors. I ain't having my grandkids think me and mine weren't ready to do the right thing when it came time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Preston, I did not threaten anyone.I said that the wrath of god thing is bad, and told people that some things are best left alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Too bad you ain't gonna take your own advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 I sit there and take their shit, and take their shit, and take their shit. I finally make some off the record remarks about not doing the job anymore and suddenly they are all shocked ... angry or scared.I guess I did my job for so long, and so well, that they got used to me being there, no matter what. Now, they are suddenly waking up to the reality that I am not giving lip service to civil liberties, I damn well mean it.Cody, thanks son, but I will not go down that road. What makes it so much the worse for me is that I know we could get away with it. It makes me think at what time Sandy may have first gone down that road to becoming the monster she is today. She cares about nothing but herself, whatever her false protestations are.It is wrong. We share a world with billions of others. If we don't make a stand for civilized behavoir, who will?Again, thank you. If ever you need a port in a storm, son, just come on by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Preston, picture living in a small world, full of hate, and fear.Think of a world where the only good thing in this world was some mythical being and his son.Think of being raised knowing nothing else. Think of knowing that human are born evil, and unclean. Then, one day hearing words that sound so true that you can't ignore them.But these words were telling you things that you know were lie. These words were telling that the only thing more evil than humans were in an odd way devine.Then imagine knowing that those words were lies from a demon's mouth.Then if you can try to understand this,becoming a demon yourself. Do you think you would be sane?Picture your whole family you ever knew abandoning you.Your "evil"aunt taking you in and taking care of you. Come to terms with what you are, fall in love, have your love ripped from you.Know that you have power on par with few others and know you do not have enough to do what you want the most... So, do you want to know more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Signy Malory: So, do you want to know more? Yes.After being treated with derision, disdain and total disbelief by the majority here, why does she keep coming back? Does she enjoy abuse? Is she completely unable to see that most here not only hold her in low regard but that she has become laughable in their eyes? Does she have some ulterior motive? And if so, what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 So, you are saying that because she had a rough childhood, we should forgive her?Her family left her? I see that every day. Some of them turn to crime, but most just try to get by.Her relationship was with an Elite, lady. They were in a dangerous line of work and he got killed. That is why I encourage all my people to invite the girlfriend around to the get-togethers, so they can see what kind of husband and wives it takes to support a cop. Too much power as a defense? That is inventive. So, are you advocating putting away every nova when they reach a certain power level?Interesting.Know more? What other tragedy can there be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Yes, she does James.But, mainly do you let consensus rule your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Signy Malory: Yes, she does James.But, mainly do you let consensus rule your life? No, but I don't revel in venom and insults either. If I experienced the same level of feedback I would very likely just leave. I'm curious as to what keeps Sandy here and active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matryoshka Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 What tragedy,you ask? Maybe you don't keep up with news. Maybe you watch it too closely.She is vile and mean person over the opnet.But most of her time in the real world she visits people who would walk over,share a meal and simply lives.If I were to kill your son, and come at you with a knive.Would you invite me into your arms for some apple pie?She lives in the greatest fear I can thinkof.She fears herself.She wakes up ever day, and wonder if she can control herself.And for the most part she has.Save for a few times where her life was or could be in danger.Is she a saint, no.SHe is just a human.Be thankful she doesn't give in her wants.Just as you should be thankful James doesn't either.If she is left alone and let do her own thing, the worst that will happen is that some people will bow to the sun, and have full bellies, and some of you may get bruised egos.Track her down and start bothering her..Well you too may be bowing to the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Strange, but I don't live in fear of Divis Mal, or Ashnod, or Apep, or Totentanz, or Anteus, or a dozen other really dangerous novas.I worry about thugs like Leviathen, Geryon, the Confederate, or Shrapnel, but they also don't make claims of leveling cities, much less geographic regions.Sandy is different. She is a lunatic who revels in a false martyr complex. If she is as powerful and insane as you claim, Ms. Mallory, she needs to be stopped while we still can stop her. She has broken the law, we should shut her down, and her mind cured, if possible.Hell, I might even be happy with Exile at this time. Say 10 or more parsecs away, on some unihabited rock. Hell, if she can live on Venus as she claims, then multiple sites should be available.Walker, any way this might be possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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