Sandy Davis Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 As you all already know, I am gone. Well, I am gone in some sense of the word. But not wholly gone. You see I left in my place a ghost. And what you are reading now is in fact written by a ghost. I am a sum of data put into a relay of programs. I do not know of everything that you want to know. What I am trying to say is, that I do not know all the answers. So please be calm, I will be return.So if anyone wishes to ask anything of me, I will free anwser. That is anything I can answer.So please be calm.Lastly I have the urge to say this.With nothing to contrast to, then nothing has any meaning. The extremes are there, not in spite of each other, but because each other. Pain, and pleasure. Love, and hate. Peace, and War. Good, and Evil. You can't know heat without know cold. You do not know anything until you understand the lacking of it.So wile novas, can truly do what no humans can do. Without humans, we loose something. I do not know what we would loose, but I can say this, we are more slpended because of humans. And Ironically what humans do is not set upon a higher pedestal.So let's not walk above them like tyrants, but among them like teachers. Let us show them the way, and at the same time fallow the path they have set before. We still have much to learn from those we think we are better than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 A little early for Christimas tales isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Cody, I do not know you,and from what I have read of yours,I would not hold you in a great light. I do not twist pegan hollydays to another religion, simpley because it is a good way to convert people.Now,please I think I could anwser some of what some of the people on this board wisht o know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Isn't that a crying shame. Told off by an uppity piece of software. What a world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Well I can see not many people care.And Vixen in five days four hours, you will get a package.In that package will be something that you will greatly enjoy.Now,Let me get some other things out as well.From curent projections, I will say that will be another nova this board will or at least should care greatly about in less than four months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Huh? I feel a little silly talking to a piece of software like its a person but... I can not figure out what your trying to say with that second paragraph.Apparently it really is a strange world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Cody, if I told you anything that you can't understand, it becuase you do not know me.The people who read that that should know what it means, already knows what it means.Now I am not going to talk to you anymore.I have to tend to other matters.Like watching my ping counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Bored now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Wow... Another ghost...I really think that they should have their Op-Net priveledges revoked...Just kidding. But... Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Sorry. Just found an uber-cute old school animated gif on the old internet I wanted to save from digital oblivion... Isn't she cute? ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 I am or at least used tobe the pprototype of the ghost that was given to you Endeavor.I got ungraded, with a few nifty tools.I do say the old net is a strange place,I don't much like it.Too slow,and well too slow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino:Sorry. Just found an uber-cute old school animated gif on the old internet I wanted to save from digital oblivion... Isn't she cute? ^.^The eyes!!THE HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE EYES!!!Is she from, like, an underground society of something? Or a culture that mandates that contact lenses must be the size of dinner plates? The biological implications of having eyes that size combined with a small mouth and limbs must be an incredibly specialized niche in the evolutionary environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 *roflmao*I knew I'd get some sort of joke off of that... I found that little... thing... very entertaining.Those eyes are quite strange. But perhaps I should digress, and at least try to let the thread return to it's subject. Thought I'd lighten things up a bit you know. All this talk of ghosts and stuff scares me. Just dealing with that weird "ghost" Sandy gave me a while back has been quite the experience.Hopefully when she does return, I can ask her what the experiences she had were like.If she does... return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Thought for the day;The danger is not that machines will learn to think like humans, the danger is that humans will learn to think like machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Walker:Thought for the day;The danger is not that machines will learn to think like humans, the danger is that humans will learn to think like machines.Oh. Do you mean precisely, accurately and not prone to mistaking hormonal surges for 'truth'?Mein Gott, that would be horrible now wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Hello Ghost. What, if anything to you have to share with the rest of us? I can't say I knew your creator, but I understand that she was an Elite and a Municipal Defender. Do you expect her back soon?Mr. Prodigy/Meehan, or just James, how do you prefer to be addressed?The Truth isn't all it's cracked up to be and I am becoming a real believer in passions. For a nova, there is just so much to see and do that I find it incomprehensible that anyone could stay totally detached, emotionally. Why would anyone want to limit themselves so?Of course, I say this while in a space suit with nothing alive around me except my fellow space travelers. Paying attention doesn't suck, either. Especially when the alternative is sucking vaccum and the likelyhood of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Young Mr. Preston, you may refer to me as Mr. Meehan until such time as we become closer.I do not believe that we should ever become completely detached emotionally. I just shudder at this need to remain 'human', which can often be defined as illogical and rash. You can act in a precise and rational manner without having to act like an utter prat.Enjoy your time in space. I envy you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 24, 2003 Author Share Posted March 24, 2003 Well, why am I here. I just came here because I was bored. And I had an urge to come here and talk to people here. I couldn't tell you why I had this urge, besides it was some program built into me, but that is not the whole reason.As for the idea that I was an elite. You could say that, but I was not whole one. I was body guard, and protector. Not a killer. If you wish to find out more, you will have to wait until I get back in person.As far asI knwo I will be returning with a half of a year.No more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Ghost of Sandy Davis:Well, why am I here. I just came here because I was bored. And I had an urge to come here and talk to people here. I couldn't tell you why I had this urge, besides it was some program built into me, but that is not the whole reason.As for the idea that I was an elite. You could say that, but I was not whole one. I was body guard, and protector. Not a killer. If you wish to find out more, you will have to wait until I get back in person.As far asI knwo I will be returning with a half of a year.No more than that.Perhaps I should have you meet Hitomi 2.0... or whatever name she wants to take. Ever since I got in this place, I had several messages from MY ghost wanting a new name... I don't get it. Perhaps you'd understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 25, 2003 Author Share Posted March 25, 2003 I think she want here full name..As I am called Sandy Davis,and treated like the citizen that I am.Ain't that spiffy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan:Oh. Do you mean precisely, accurately and not prone to mistaking hormonal surges for 'truth'?Mein Gott, that would be horrible now wouldn't it?I meant staying ridgidly within predefined bounds, It was the feeling of not wanting to be 'designed' only for one purpose. Besides I knicked that thought from one of the early pioneers in AI research, it best not to be overly analytical or too emotional in my opinion. BTW have you finished considering my little proposal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Ghost of Sandy Davis:I think she want here full name..As I am called Sandy Davis,and treated like the citizen that I am.Ain't that spiffy?Actually, she's probably gone beyond her own program borders, and feels she's her own person. The name Hitomi has no meaning to that "ghost". She wants to assert her own identity I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 26, 2003 Author Share Posted March 26, 2003 Well,I am who I want to be.I enjoy my work,and love turning porn site into random site devoted to random things.Like one time i turned this porn site into a wizrd of oz site,and guess what?That site got like 30% more hits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Ok, I'm confused. I've been checking out the archives and saw that y'all freaked out over something called Charon. Wanted it toasty. Now we got another Pinnochia and this one gets the hugs and kisses? Whatthefuck?Waitaminute, is everyone just yanking me here? Is this a big fucking joke on the new guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Ewing Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Voluntarily admission of complicity in the willful and malicious destruction of personal property, violation of international copy right laws, criminal trespass, theft (intellectual property) and OpNet misconduct has been duly noted.In accordance with federal statutes and international agreement; your logon has been recorded and a letter of Intent to Investigate has been forwarded to the appropriate regulatory commissions who may choose to independently review your Op Net license.Thank you for your compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 26, 2003 Author Share Posted March 26, 2003 Under the federal law of what? The US? I am in a country that does not recognize the legal bindings of said laws.Also to say that I did said action is not legally binding, unless you can prove at least eh name of the site. I would also point out that the site that I targeted was not in the legal sphere of USA copy right or even international copy right law. Said nations witch both parties are, and were, are not part of the UN, and do not recognize said legal actions. SO, please kindly remove your legal threats, before you are brought into a court for threading a citizen for practicing it's legal rights.Lemmy,Iwas made last year.I work for the peacekeepers Inc,and and maintain track records of Swiss banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Under the federal law of what? The US? I am in a country that does not recognize the legal bindings of said laws.I believe you're referring to cyberspace?Also to say that I did said action is not legally binding, unless you can prove at least eh name of the site. I would also point out that the site that I targeted was not in the legal sphere of USA copy right or even international copy right law. Said nations witch both parties are, and were, are not part of the UN, and do not recognize said legal actions. SO, please kindly remove your legal threats, before you are brought into a court for threading a citizen for practicing it's legal rights.Question is, what laws does cyberspace other than the code of the hacker?Lemmy,Iwas made last year.I work for the peacekeepers Inc,and and maintain track records of Swiss banks.Sandy v2, you mean to tell me that you are employed? As a program? Are you aware of the precedent this sets? You're a pioneer for AI rights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Ewing Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Preliminary inquiry has been completed and your extra-national status has been duly noted. The U.S. Federal has declined to request extradition at this time, however, renews its right to do so at a later date if said extradition is determined to be in the best interests of the United States of America. It has been noted that the images used in some of the criminal mischief are copy right of MGM (United States), a subsidiary of ViaSoft (United States) and were used without permission. United States Federal Government substantiates its claim to jurisdiction but continues to decline action at this time while matter is under review by the United Nations. Motion recorded and held by Records Division, United Nations, New York City, New York.Threatened civil action duly noted, however, response held in abeyance pending determination of legal status, i.e. whether entity has human rights or is considered property and if property wherein responsibility of ownership resides.Preliminary inquiry into the misuse or abuse of Op Net licensing privilege currently ongoing. In light of claims to status as an artificial life form the case involving the entity referring to itself as "Ghost", "Ghost of Sandy Davis", "Sandy Davis", "Miss Fortune", "Mis Fortune", ad infinitum, has been simultaneously referred to the Human Rights Oversight Committee of the United Nations and Project Utopia for disposition of legal status. Motion recorded and held by Records Division, United Nations, New York City, New York.Project Utopia Science and Technology Department announces intent to commence investigation citing illegal technologies, failure to comply with existing technology review protocols. Action recorded and held by Records Division, United Nations, New York City, New York.United States law enforcement divisions and Interpol notified of Intent to Investigate illegal technologies by Project Utopia. Interpol and various agencies of the United States are currently initiating investigations into allegations of fraud citing illegal status of the entity in question and possible criminal intent (self admitted).The Op Net license of entity referring to itself as Ghost", "Ghost of Sandy Davis", "Sandy Davis", "Miss Fortune", "Mis Fortune", and other aliases not yet known is currently being reviewed by international regulatory commissions.You will be informed of the results of the inquiries in due time.Thank you for your compliance.- Special Agent Ewing -Have a nice day.- Special Agent Ewing - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Ok, I'm confused. I've been checking out the archives and saw that y'all freaked out over something called Charon. Wanted it toasty. Now we got another Pinnochia and this one gets the hugs and kisses? Whatthefuck?Unlike Charon, Sandy's ghost is based off of her personality profile. Charon was a "wild" AI. Without such programming, thus a threat. We know Sandy, and thus know the "ghost."Waitaminute, is everyone just yanking me here? Is this a big fucking joke on the new guy?No, it's just how dynamic life is. Charon is... was... a threat. That was my fault. I made her become who she was. All over my naivete. Sandy v2 is nowhere near the threat. I should know, I own a ghost as well. Although it's evolved it's own personality from my late mother's pre-eruption personality. How it was encoded though, I've yet to figure that out... Hitomi v2... or whatever she wants to call herself now, I've yet to find out, is quite a kind person. Wouldn't harm a fly. that's why I'd like to have my ghost meet Sandy. I think my adopted "child" could use a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 ...[Open Command Protocol - Kyoko Server][..open][Hitomi_Trigger_Firewall:1][Complying][Enter Password: **********][Access Opened]Hitomi, or whoever you're calling yourself, please: firewalls=on, lock_down=stage_3.[Commands accepted][locking down][connection safely terminated]Sorry about that, Hitomi reads the boards too, thought I'd send and activate some macros.Never mind the schoolgirl behind the curtains. ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Not in the UN? Well, that narrows it down quite a bit. Ever wonder how Utopia responds to someone outside of UN jurisdiction? I can't wait to find out.GoS, whatever you do, do not travel, or have any of your component parts travel, to anywhere out side your little enclave. There is a Seizure Warrant just waiting for you, I have no doubt.Lemmy, sometimes the moral twists and turns here hurt my mind as well. Hopefully, someone, somewhere, will have a stern talking to GoS's creator. I doubt it, but I can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Ewing Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Preston:Hopefully, someone, somewhere, will have a stern talking to GoS's creator. I doubt it, but I can hope.Count on it Captain Preston.Count on it.- Special Agent Ewing - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino:[Q]Sandy v2 is nowhere near the threat. I should know, I own a ghost as well. Although it's evolved it's own personality from my late mother's pre-eruption personality. How it was encoded though, I've yet to figure that out... Hitomi v2... or whatever she wants to call herself now, I've yet to find out, is quite a kind person. Wouldn't harm a fly. that's why I'd like to have my ghost meet Sandy. I think my adopted "child" could use a friend.[/QB]What?This thing is like a person in a computer right? Like Mike, Athena, and HAL? And you own it?Like slavery?Man, you guys are into some twisted shit. I've hung with some Terats who ain't this freaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 What? This thing is like a person in a computer right? Like Mike, Athena, and HAL? And you own it? Like slavery?I do not own Hitomi. I protect her. I take care of her needs. Digital life forms are rather hard to take care of. They require more than good schooling, proper nutrition, and proper raising. When I took her on, I took her on as my ward, not my pet. She has her freedoms, as long as she dosen't stray too far from home. Hitomi 2.0 is nothing more than a rambunctious teenager. Well, one with raging program algorythms. Hitomi's form and programming are based off of a person's thought pattern. As far as I know, other than that, they're their own person. Ghost Sandy is a free program as far as I can gather. My ward is in my care, and under my protection. When the time comes, she will step out in the world like all children do when they grow up. I will not smother her under paranoid protectionism. She deserves more. Heck, I'm even letting her choose her own name. That's more freedom than any slave I know.Man, you guys are into some twisted shit. I've hung with some Terats who ain't this freaky.You have my answer. Since that comment was not directed towards me, I will not take it in insult. Lemmy, if it was, you have me mistaken. If Hitomi asked, I'd find some way to grant her the freedoms of a corporeal being. If only I knew how to build a stable data-brain... I'm not the mechanical genius my mother was. My forte' is programming. I would love to give her a body. So she can experience life from the other side of the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted March 26, 2003 Author Share Posted March 26, 2003 Here it is, man this is some funny stuff. You do realize that I do keep track of the bank accounts that the goddess old CIA uses. And if anyone needs to go to jail for white collar crimes it is them. Would you like proof?On another hand, you are whining about hat a computer program does in a place that doesn't recognize your legal system, and is doing things that are gray line at best. When you could be doing something like I don't know stooping real crime. Would you like help with said actions do know of a group of people planing on killing countless people...Oh wait that is legal. Sorry I can't help you, as you think the law should punish small time things like making people miss their porn and not the selling of drugs to people...ANd Leamy,I am a full citizen,I can vote.Can you vote?Sure i can't vote in USA, but I don't care.Really no one owns me, well at least anymore than you are own by anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Ewing Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Under the circumstances and if sufficient evidence is developed, a human being would be provided an appropriate opportunity to make a defense against the charges. Additionally and after careful evaluation, any human being that made the preceding remarks would be advised to retain professional counsel.Finally, and based solely on the information provided by self admission, the scope of the investigation will be expanded to include the private company that offered services based on illicit and dangerous technologies to third parties. It is believed these third parties contracted in good faith with this agency and were unaware of the illicit nature under which the services were provided, however, that will be evaluated as well.The creator of this thing may be laughing but the responsible nations of the world are not. Neither are the law enforcement agencies of those nations, the regulatory agencies responsible for issuing Op Net licenses or those whose work was stolen and properties damaged. And neither is the agency given juridiction over nova developed technologies.Thank you for your compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sakurako 'Endeavor' Hino:[QBQuestion is, what laws does cyberspace other than the code of the hacker?[/QB]A real good question. Does it fall under the local laws or do the dicks at Utopia get control as a nova development? Preston? Ewing? Any one?And what's with this Captain thing? I thought you were a detective, Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 My guess is that they're going by the PHYSICAL location of the server hit. In other words, the law for a certain site is governed by it's server's location. I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Ghost of Sandy Davis:Here it is, man this is some funny stuff. You do realize that I do keep track of the bank accounts that the goddess old CIA uses. And if anyone needs to go to jail for white collar crimes it is them. Would you like proof?On another hand, you are whining about hat a computer program does in a place that doesn't recognize your legal system, and is doing things that are gray line at best. When you could be doing something like I don't know stooping real crime. Would you like help with said actions do know of a group of people planing on killing countless people...Oh wait that is legal. Sorry I can't help you, as you think the law should punish small time things like making people miss their porn and not the selling of drugs to people...ANd Leamy,I am a full citizen,I can vote.Can you vote?Sure i can't vote in USA, but I don't care.Really no one owns me, well at least anymore than you are own by anyone.Okay, this is curious... She really does believe she's herself... Talk about a sattelite entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 That makes sense but what if its something that's illegal to exist like... I dunno... a black tech opnet virus. Do they go by the laws of the country it was made in, the country it caused damage in or the five countries that hosted servers that it went to before it got to the destination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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