Preston Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 Before it gets sanitized or hushed under the mat, I would just like someone else to know that Utopia did it, again.They have once more trampled the civil liberties and rights of other people in their quest for control. The most recent target was the Blackburn Hotel in NYC. Exactly how many novas were grabbed isn't known by me at this time.Why did this happen? Not really sure. Oh, the rumors floating around are the Usual Suspects; Teragan Cell plotting imminent terrorist plot, child-kidnapping ring, drug factory, et al.It isn't likely the truth will ever come out. Nothing but cover paperwork was ever filled on this. It all falls under the UN Mandate and Homeland Security, which translates into "none of my damn business", I guess.Funny, but I thought I was a member of a free country. I thought I had the right to know what my government was up to ... at least on home soil. What was I thinking?I want to say a whole lot more about this, but I can't. I am a public official for the City of Boston. I am a cop. I would like to say that this kind of crap isn't going to happen in my city, not while I hold a badge and still draw breath, but that would be impolitic. Might get me fired or worse, reprimanded ... again.So, instead, I am just going to ask all of you to be extra careful out there, because Big Brother is watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 And you wonder why I'm nervous hanging around at this place.Thank god I'm outta here in 3 weeks or a month.Shit... This is strange times we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 I doubt a 'rest' facility is high on Utopia's list of places to raid. You never know though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 For those of you not in the loop, the ALNPI is very closely allied with Project Utopia and Triton Industries. If your already there, then you probably don't have to worry about getting raided. Getting reseased however, that's a whole other story.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 I don't suppose you're taking into account the possibility that maybe something illicit WAS going on in the Blackburn...No. No, I guess that's just not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 As a temporary detainee I'd like to say it sucked and there wasn't shit going on. Some partying, some fucking and well, okay, some drug use. No baby dart boards, no white slavery, no monkey sweatshops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 That's interesting, because from what I've been reading about this bust, those are exactly the kinds of things that those who were arrested are being charged with - selling drugs, illegal shootfights, and... this is personally revulsive... telepathically 're-engineered' human sex toys. Seriously.And apparently all of it was only available to select clients who had to know where to look. So it appears you were left out of the loop there, Lenny.The sad thing is, those arrested novas are rich enough that they have probably made bail by the time you read these words and they'll probably get off by literally flying off to a country without an extradition treaty with the USA, claiming religious persecution all the while when they're sipping rum on a beach somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Does Utopia accept bail? That's hard to buy when they don't care what any cop or judge thinks. Or what rights you have. They decided to do it, did it, and all we know is what they tell us. I really hope they are the good guys because they aren't somebody is getting screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Frankly, I'd be surprised if this raid was conduncted exclusively under Project Utopia's supervision without any input from local authorities. It doesn't fit the pattern - the U.S. government gets its undies in a twist every time someone at Utopia so much as looks meaningfully at anything in America. Project Utopia had to move their main headquarters out of the United States in general, and New York in particular, due to friction with the U.S. government.What is far more likely to be the case is that New York's vice squad requested novas on retainer from Nova Services International, which is affiliated with Project Utopia, to make sure that the people being arrested didn't decide to blow up downtown Manhattan. Even the Gothic Knight can't take on a hotel full of novas.However, the NYPD isn't as sexy in print as Project Utopia is, so naturally the media will downplay the NYPD's role while at the same time puffing up Project Utopia's - since Team Tomorrow versus Nova Vigilance is the grudge match of the century, apparently. Having worked for NSI myself I can tell you that more often than not this winds up the case - I'm assigned to a case to assist another party going by their guidelines and rules, and suddenly everyone else takes a back seat to what I'm doing in the eyes of the cameras. I wish I could pin the blame exclusively on the Project's PR department (and in all honesty, the Project does like to spin-doctor,) but the truth is that the media is biased towards novas. What a nova has for breakfast gets more airtime than whether or not poor people in some third world country are going to HAVE breakfast.So if you're looking for fair, unbiased reporting on what went down with the Blackburn raid, I'm afraid it's going to be a while before we see any of that. Sad, but true.If it makes you guys happy I can see how much paperwork on the subject I can get from NSI and the NYPD if I flutter my eyelashes. Allegations of Big Brother and the One World Government and The Man Keeping Us Down aside, any organization the size of the Project and the NYPD has to have SOME paperwork on the subject - the system just won't work without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 An expression involving the road to hell being paved with good intentions, springs to mind.Utopia ceased being transparent to the general public a long time ago, that was a big mistake I think, always makes you wonder what they are up to. They should have left the crime fighting and peackeeping to others and stuck with the humanitarian stuff, then they wouldn't need the secrecy veil.I didn't know that Utopia and Triton still had their fingers in the AlNPI pie though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 Hey Vixy, I was there honey. Have you ever even heard of the Blackburn? I hadn't until I got an invite that night and it ain't like it's the Amp Room America style. It's smaller, nastier, and there wasn't a tenth the novas. I didn't see any front page honeys or Fortune 500 homies there either. My kinda crowd actually; down, dirty, and real. Nobody there had a private jet, of that I'm pretty goddamn sure. Different kinda lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 What I hear you saying is that you could find out what really happened but don't see a reason to bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Yes, Lenny, believe it or not, even an uncultured philistine such as myself who prefers reruns on the Sci-Fi channel to Ampwells has heard of the Blackburn. My interest in attending dwindled around the same time a prominent Terat member threatened to crush my head.And, here's something interesting - my next NSI assignment is related to a dozen men and women sitting in a psych ward in upstate New York, all of whom are amnesiac nymphomaniac bisexuals, all of whom were recovered from holding pens in secret rooms inside the Blackburn. The evidence suggested their psyches were telepathically altered, and I'm to go in - along with a few other telepaths the Project has, and a few elites that the state of New York has hired - and see what, if anything, can be done to help them, and if it's possible to derive just who did this to them. The assignment came up for my perusal a few hours ago - I accepted right away.So it looks like I'll be in a position to get that information for you folks after all. 'Course, someone who is really paranoid could say that I'm just a Utopian spin doctor trying to swing the memetic impact of the raid in Utopia's direction... or alternately they could just be content with what I got told, which was "we don't have that many telepaths available at the moment so we'd really appreciate it if you'd take this contract." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 ...Shoot. I'm glad I don't like New York then.*shakes head* I consider what happened to those people similar to mind rape. I hope you and your friends can repair the damage, Vixen. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Glad to hear your willing to make the effort after all. Good luck. In the end the mind is all we have to call our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Vixen:And, here's something interesting - my next NSI assignment is related to a dozen men and women sitting in a psych ward in upstate New York, all of whom are amnesiac nymphomaniac bisexuals, all of whom were recovered from holding pens in secret rooms inside the Blackburn. The evidence suggested their psyches were telepathically altered, and I'm to go in - along with a few other telepaths the Project has, and a few elites that the state of New York has hired - and see what, if anything, can be done to help them, and if it's possible to derive just who did this to them. The assignment came up for my perusal a few hours ago - I accepted right away.So it looks like I'll be in a position to get that information for you folks after all. 'Course, someone who is really paranoid could say that I'm just a Utopian spin doctor trying to swing the memetic impact of the raid in Utopia's direction... or alternately they could just be content with what I got told, which was "we don't have that many telepaths available at the moment so we'd really appreciate it if you'd take this contract."You're going to be involved in that investigation? I envy you. You'll be seeing and experiencing some remarkable things.I'd like to give you a little information on this one if you're interested. You see, I pride myself on having a diverse little band of friends and informants who do their best to keep me in the know.The gentleman responsible for this is Dr. Nathanial Gerhard. He is a psychologist from Toronto and he erupted seven years ago. A gifted telepath, he was one of the counselors at Adis Ababa with home I worked on a number of projects.He had a droll sense of humor and appreciated fine food. I enjoyed his company very much.We had stayed in contact even after my leaving the Project. In the begining he did his best to convince me to return to T2M. We ceased communicating for a time when it was publically revealed that I had allied myself with the Terat philosophy. However, a few months ago he contacted me again. It seems he had been 'exploring' the limitations of his quantum expression and had developed some symptoms that he found distracting. He hoped that I could help him with dealing with this Taint. I was forced to admit that no, I was not one of the fortunate individuals to have discerned the mysteries of something known as Chrysalis. However, I did do my best to assist my former friend and I directed him to some individuals who I believed who would be better able to help him. The last that I had heard he had been offered assistance if he was willing to show utter disregard for his former life. Those baselines you will be working on are the results of his 'entrance exam'. I don't think that was quite what his mentor had in mind.I understand that Utopia is quite eager to have Dr. Gerhard returned to their bosom. It is my sincere hope that he not enjoy their hospitatlity any time soon. Good luck working with the baselines, I suspect you will need it. Dr. Gerhard was quite the capable thoughtsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Quote:Vixen:all of whom are amnesiac nymphomaniac bisexuals, all of whom were recovered from holding pens in secret rooms inside the Blackburn. The evidence suggested their psyches were telepathically altered..."Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apep Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Amnesiac nymphomaniac bisexuals? Yummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Gerhard's presence would explain Utopia's handling of the investigation. The more I hear about these dicks the less I like them. What the hell is a guy like this doing working for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted March 21, 2003 Author Share Posted March 21, 2003 Vixen, I think you missed my point, which was, Lemmy was a US citizen, in the US at the time he was busted. Did he get a lawyer? Was he read his Miranda rights?NO!Because he was handed over to Utopia! Why was he handed over to Utopia? BECAUSE HE WAS A NOVA! I am not some conspiracy theorist wack-job. I am concerned about what was found at the Blackburn, but I am equally concerned about all the WRONG things that the so called authorities did to get there.Detention without due process of law.Invasion of Private Domain/Business without Judicial Authority.Violation of Civil Rights guarunteed by the Constituion of not only this country, but most of the {explitive deleted} world!They may have done a good thing. I say may, because now every thing out of that raid is legally suspect. That brain-{explitive deleted} people are going to be treated, and hopefully cured, is a silver lining to a very dark cloud.The {explitive deleted} arrested people's rights were violated because THEY WERE NOVAS!Damn it, but didn't the UN and most of the nations of the earth say that novas are human beings with all the rights and protections there of?Utopia IS NOT a legal authority backed by a democratically elected government. They are a private corporation with extra-legal status and they feel free to violate the rights of free people whenever they feel their "greater good" is served.I, for one, am not going to dance to Utopia's tune. I am not a happy little member of their New World Order. I am not going to sit by while they break the law, and free people get screwed.I am not a terat and I don't subscribe to the terat philosophy. I am a nova and a human being. I live in a FREE country and am a law-abiding citizen of that country. I am pissed because a fellow citizen was violated and discriminated against ... and no one wants to say or do anything about it!When free men are afraid to act, they are no longer free.All that it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.If we keep letting Utopia do this, how can any nova feel safe? Besides sucking up to Utopia's big, fat tit, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 At no point during your initial post did you state that Lemmy was arrested and detained by Project Utopia. So yes, I missed your point, mostly because you never made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 However, I've just made a few calls and forged a few connections, and I'll have some transcripts of conversations that took place between a few people closely tied into this investigation. So we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Sorry Vix but he did tell you. He just didn't give the specifics of who got their rights stomped on by the project. Juice didn't give me brain cells but I got that much from his first post. Maybe... sometimes... we just see what we want to see. And... maybe... that has something to do with why you got a special invitation to kiss the ring and see the poor victims. Maybe not.Either way watch your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Heyy, Utopia has been nothing but nice ot me.I mean I have to go too see a Doc, once a month.But I just spend a few hours,and well I get enough money to have a house in new york,and LA..And anyone remeber the little makaurthur act?My grandfather was baned from making movies, because he chased a little commy skirt in UCLA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Hey Tasty, what they paying you for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Actually, who specifically got arrested at the Blackburn DOES matter. Since Teragen members congregate there, and since a vital component of Teragen membership and philosophy is the renouncing of your humanity and the statement that human rights and responsibilities do not apply to you, it therefore becomes pretty important whether or not you're a Terat when you're complaining about your civil rights being violated. You can't have it both ways, is the saying...So now that I know that Lemmy was there, that he got arrested and that he's not a follower of Teragen philosophy, I've put a few tersely worded OpMails through to the folks in charge of Utopia's doings in the raid. We'll see what they have to say for themselves. I've also requested the full dossier on Lemmy's meeting with Utopian council, and it should be arriving soon - unless Lemmy wants to keep that private from me, in which case I'll respect his wishes and delete it when it arrives.On another note, it's been whispered in my ear that the Directive's a bit pissed at this, since usually when the U.S. government wants to arrest its own nova citizens they call on them. Utopia's not exactly a friendly face to many people in power, so it did strike me as a bit unusual that Utopia and not the Directive were the ones involved in the raid. The U.S.A. should be calling down an unholy shitstorm of fire on the Project now if the Project was breaking the law in such a public fashion, yet I haven't heard boo so far.I've done some checking and apparently there's a bit of a rift forming in the upper levels of power between the U.S. and the Directive. Favors being owed, backs needing scratching, that sort of thing. Nothing as serious as what happened years ago with Project Utopia and the U.S. government when the Project had to move their main headquarters to Venice, but there's still disagreement. I hate spreading rumors and innuendo, but what I'm gathering from looking at the information patterns is that there's people in power who wanted to tweak the noses of the Directive a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted March 22, 2003 Author Share Posted March 22, 2003 "They have once more trampled the civil liberties and rights of other people in their quest for control. The most recent target was the Blackburn Hotel in NYC. Exactly how many novas were grabbed isn't known by me at this time."Vixen, what didn't you understand ?Okay, I believe you are generally a good person. I do not hate Utopia for most of the work they do. They do not deserve police powers, though. They are a private organization. They are responsible only to their board of directors and their stockholders, not to any public body.What they have is the naked power to get their way, and the deep pockets to buy friends and bury problems.What they don't have is justice. They can't buy that. It something that is given by the people, for their security and protection of them and their society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 They take my blood.And I have to look at a few things,then I am lead into a room,and I look at novas as they brought into the room.Mainly novas who are being studied,and thouaght.I am asked what I think they will turn out as.I don't know why.I mean I so far only could really get the feeling of one of the novas.It was strange, when I using my powers to feel her,I nearly feel in.I mean most of the time I have ot force myself in, but with her.I just fell in.I wish I could tell more.Hell I can't even tell you her name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Your right Vix. You don't get it both ways. If I get busted by anybody from the local sheriff all the way up to the FBI I still have rights and they have to prove my guilt in court because I'm innocent until they do. I guess that's not smooth enough for the project though. Sound like when the project decides to come for my ass they can do any damn thing they want. The only thing I can count on is myself and... maybe... somebody else having the same problems. What do you think? Is that going to be a baseline risking his ass for me or another nova? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apep Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Vixen:Actually, who specifically got arrested at the Blackburn DOES matter. Since Teragen members congregate there, and since a vital component of Teragen membership and philosophy is the renouncing of your humanity and the statement that human rights and responsibilities do not apply to you, it therefore becomes pretty important whether or not you're a Terat when you're complaining about your civil rights being violated. You can't have it both ways, is the saying...But that's bullshit. If these novas would have responded in kind, they would have been charged with all sorts of violations to baseline law. Saying that Utopia only ignored US law because they believed they were dealing with Terats who do the same, that's just absurd. It was done this way because they do whatever the hell they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted March 23, 2003 Author Share Posted March 23, 2003 Vixen, this whole situation is pretty confusing. The players seem to be the NYPD (they apparently had some warning that the raid was about to happen), Project Utopia (who carried out the raid), the US federal government (who now seem to have also been informed that a raid was about to happen), and the Directive (who wasn't told jack until the raid was in post-mortem).The Police and the Federal Government were told that a major teragen cell had been discovered and that they were in "imminent danger" of carrying out a terrorist act.They both, predictably, acted out of unreasoning fear. After all, short of calling in the US Army, how were either group going to respond to a gathering of multiple, powerful novas? In my mind, they both really dropped the ball.I have no idea what information Utopia was operating on.I am beginning to hear hear something a bit different from the Directive. That, just maybe, there was something else going on at the Blackburn. Sadly, they are only giving me tid-bits of information. I have no solid leads as to what was really going on their. What I have been able to figure out is that Utopia missed the terats they were after and these terats are still at large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Today, In a Nutshell:On the plane over to New York, I got a transcript of the conversation between Lemmy and a Rashoud worker whos name I'll keep under wraps for the time being. After reading through it, I sent another terse letter to the person responsible for the investigation, asking that they had better have one hell of a good reason for the shit that was pulled.I'd like to take this moment to apologize to Lemmy - I judged you before I knew the whole story. I'll be honest here - I thought you were just blowing this whole experience out of proportion, since you seem to have a highly centralized, hedonistic personality. However, this transcript is stamped and it doesn't lie, so I'll say it again: I'm sorry. However, a little advice - you need to get a larger vocabulary. That being said, by the time I landed I got an OpMail back - NOT from the person I'd originally sent the letter to, but from Mr. Moses Miller, the director of Internal Affairs at Project Utopia. (You might remember him from that scandal a few years back when the CIA tried to insert moles into the organization.) I'm not sure if I should reproduce the letter in full, but the gist of it was: the individual responsible for the detention of Lemmy without his rights or a lawyer has been let go and charges are going to wind up getting pressed against said individual, while Lemmy's got a public apology coming to him.I can hear heckling already. Bear with me a minute.Firstly, regarding Utopia's position as a privatized police force in special cases: believe it or not, this IS legal, and it has historical precident. Probably the most famous United States example is the Patrol Specials of San Francisco, though that's certainly not the only one. Privatization of police and security forces has been on the steady rise for decades, and whether you think it's good or bad, a review of the law states that it IS legal, and has been made considerably easier due to laws passed 'under the radar' over the past decade and a half by your legislative representatives. So those of you who oppose this practise: it might be a good idea to contact your senator or congressman - at the very least it'll be more productive than barking on a message board about how the Man Is Keeping You Down. This, by the way, does not mean that Utopia can ignore the Miranda card, even though the person who grilled Lemmy did. You can choose for yourself whether or not to believe Moses Miller - he's expected to make a statement, complete with a lot of cooked crow ready for him to eat, later tonight.The raid was kicked off by, believe it or not, an anonymous tip. No leads as to who it was - but it was delivered simultaneously in brown envelopes to Utopia and the NYPD, with MAYBE a third being sent to the Homeland Security folks (they haven't returned my calls.) Evidence gleaned from the tip was cross-referenced with international crime databases and Utopia's own records and was determined to be strong enough to issue a warrant. Utopia didn't quite act alone - it was backed up by generous NYPD support to further the mutual interests of both organizations, such as the vice squad's desire to close down a suspected vice ring, and Utopia's desire for more dirt on suspected Teragen terrorists like Matador and Geryon. However, Utopia's nova forces were by far the brunt of the raid, with the others in question mostly serving as backup or information-gathering and dissemination.Human members went to the NYPD stations; nova members went to the Rashoud facilities. Who authorized or suggested this move is still a mystery - however, it might have had something to do with the lawsuit last year in which an incarcerated man sued the state of New York for endangerment when he, along with nine others being held, were badly injured when detainee number 11 turned out to be a nova, who brought down a significant chunk of the police station on the heads of his cellmates and made good his escape. I'm still undecided on the validity of this lawsuit - you'd think that sueing the rampaging nova would be a better option - but the suit did stick, and was expensive for the NYPD, who are now rather leery of holding nova prisoners with baseline prisoners. However, the individual behind this particular segregation is unknown to me at this time - you may think Project Utopia's good at stonewalling when they want, but compared to the Blue Wall that goes up whenever an officer gets in trouble, Utopia's not even out of the starting gate.And the Directive's still fuming. It doesn't help that rumors are beginning to pile up suggesting that the Teragen and the Directive are in cahoots. This is all beginning to sound like the X-Files at the end of its run.That's the extent of my investigation so far. Now, you may or may not believe me - certainly, the fact that I work for Project Utopia regularly probably suggests to some of you that I can't be trusted and that I'm trying to spin the situation. I'm not sure what to say to that.Now, to the part that I went to New York for: the telepathically rewritten slaves. *sigh* I wish I had good news to report, but I doubt these people are ever going to be able to fit back into society in a meaningful way. Me, Psyche from Team Tomorrow, and the Elite known as Headset spent three hours in deep with them today and we're cross-referencing our notes with a shrink... but things look grim. All we can do is build up a psyche profile of the person who did this to them at this stage and then ferret around inside to see if there's anything left of the people they used to be. At this one point I was in this guy's mind and his head filled up with lust at the sight of the three of us, and I just... I couldn't take it. I left the room and cried. Big tough nova girl. And tomorrow, more of the same...((OOC: Long post, sorry. Hope I didn't accidentally contradict anyone more horribly than I already have. In any event, this is what happens when a nova with Mega-Perception and Mega-Manipulation decides to get some information...)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Glad to hear somebody is going to get an apology out of this.Sorry about the flatlines. I'd help if I could but its not my specialty. If what your doing doesnt work out I got a suggestion though. Its definitely not something you want to do until every other possibility has failed first.And... How high up are you in the project? It sounds like you bark and they jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 *scratches head*Damn...Sorta makes me feel guilty. I guess some people have more f-ed up lives than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Utopia can take whatever apology they got, turn that sonofabitch sideways and stick it straight up their ass.Oh, and about my vocabulary? Eat me. It works and people get what I'm trying to get across. Anything else is just facy talking. I ain't a lawyer and I don't charge by the syllable.Me, I don't give a flying shit about who, how, or why that whole shit went down. Buncha bullshit if you ask me. All wanna do is give a shout out to Matador and tell him to change his mask and keep outta sight. Don't let those fascist fucks catch ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Lemmy, there is no time, no place, and no circumstance under which I would ever 'eat you' even if you were the last man on Earth and there were no vibrators left.But thanks for the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Posted March 24, 2003 Author Share Posted March 24, 2003 Thank you for the update, Vixen. Much of what I found out fits with what you are saying.Personally, it sounds like someone fed Utopia some real disinformation, just to make them look stupid. It doesn't excuse their poor decision-making, though.Yeah, I hate it when any member of the force goes cowboy. It hurts us all. I have talked to Mr. Miller in the past. He sounded like a straight shooter, but I just couldn't believe that he had the reach to truly fix some of Utopia's internal problems. Namely, that they know what is right and best for the rest of us, and that they can and should do what is necessary for the "greater good". Sorry, but that isn't my Utopia.The fight in both the Metro and the Commonwealth to keep Utopia at bay goes on. We have had to give the Rashoud facility back into their jurisdiction, but we are working on a local alternative. Likewise, we are working on a Holding facility for nova inmates, so that there is an alternative to just handing them over to the Project and watching them disappearing into Bahrain. Whatever else, being charged with a crime doesn't abrogate your rights as a citizen, nor dismiss society's obligations to you, nova or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Puppeteer Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 We are curious Vixen, how does the "deprogramming" go? We are interested to see just how good a thought-shaper this Gerhard really is.Personally, we find his lack of responsibility towards his drones to be disgusting. They should not be treated as dolls to be discarded when one is finished playing with them, but rather as the valuable assets that they really are.If the deprogramming is unsuccessful, we would be more than happy to add them to our collective. Their skills would be a great compliment to our own and they would find a mental awakening with us that otherwise they might never be able to experience again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Preston:Likewise, we are working on a Holding facility for nova inmates...Oh yes, and how is that going? I wait with great anticipation the day that your facility goes online and the countdown to it's catastrophic failure truly begins.I'm sure that the accompanying loss of life and destruction of property will be almost biblical in scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Its *really* hard to tell when you people are joking sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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