Jager Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 It has been a while since I posted a question, so I thought I would re-open this old wound. Call me perverse, if you will.I) What do you see as the role(s) of novas in baseline society, if any?II) What is your vision of the ideal relationship for you and any baseline(s)?III) What role, if any, do baselines currently have in your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUM TUM Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 WHY YOU CHANGE NAME? NEW NAME DUM. TUM TUM LIKE JAGER BETTER.1. CINNAMON2. THEM PURTY WOMEN. BRING TUM TUM FOOD. MAKE TUM TUM HAPPY.2. CREAM CHEESE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Oh man... This thread is guaranteed to be hot... And my sailor suit don't come in nomex... j/k.Um.... I think I just went off the subject... Back to it.1: I don't know Novakind's role, but I know mine. Live. To the fullest.2: Relationships... *blush* ehhhhh... Next question.3: ...I don't call them Baselines. If that's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I) What do you see as the role(s) of novas in baseline society, if any?Destroyers. Those that invalidate all accomplishment. Those that sunder dreams and hopes.II) What is your vision of the ideal relationship for you and any baseline(s)?Long distance. A distance measured in light years and centuries.III) What role, if any, do baselines currently have in your life?[/QB] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Endeavor:3: ...I don't call them Baselines. If that's a start.What do you call them? Monkey? Zip? Really now, I didn't know you thought that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centipede Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I) What do you see as the role(s) of novas in baseline society, if any?When I look around, I see novas treated like rockstars of the last century. I didn't understand it then and I don't understand it now.II) What is your vision of the ideal relationship for you and any baseline(s)?I honestly don't know. I would like to be a teacher, an enlightener, but that's not really in me. I think I would fail. Badly.III) What role, if any, do baselines currently have in your life?They are my fans. They are also like ants swarming around me, and a constant background noice. Several historical persons have my admiration, but very few living. It stands to reason that there are a few baselines who would qualify, but I know of none. A select few could perhaps be described as research objects, but only in the widest sense. Perhaps research parafalia is a better choice of words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANKER Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I) We are the gods of war, art and entertainment. We live to inspire and terrify them. Among them or apart, we will always represent the best and the worst of humanity.II) I think one nova and four or five baselines of the preferred gender sounds about right.III) They pay the checks and and they bill the bills. Apart from a very few and distant friends, baselines are all business to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by James 'Prodigy' Meehan: Quote:Originally posted by Endeavor:3: ...I don't call them Baselines. If that's a start.What do you call them? Monkey? Zip? Really now, I didn't know you thought that way.Depends on my mood and if they disrespect me. They stay cool, I'll call them for what they are, Humans. They start bitching like I'm a threat to their race... Baseline seems to fit. Because they're defaulting to a more primative mindset. I wish they'd wake the fuck up and realize that we're only a threat to them when they threaten us. I know it's weird coming from my mouth and all, but I think that is a sentiment 90% of us I think agree upon. The other 10... They probably follow what I call a scorched earth policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 1:The role or roles of a nova in modern society are as many and varied as the roles of a "normal," baseline member of society. We can be celebrities, cops, working stiffs, idols, or just good neighbours.2:My ideal relationship between me and a baseline... well, one of my silly little girl fantasies is that I meet a guy who falls in love with me before he finds out I'm a nova, so I'll always be certain that he loves me for me and not for what I am. Since I went public, however, that's rather tough to pull off. But the gist of it: I'd like a relationship which takes the "nova factor" into account but isn't 100% dependant on it.3:Geez, where do I begin? Mom & Dad, Mark, Mary & Mitch, Nicole, Dr. Locke, Mr. Lawrence from NSI... baseline people are my friends, my family, and my co-workers and my life would be a good deal poorer without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 I think the next question that should be asked, and it's one I ask myself, is what is a normal life for a Nova? Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 By the same token, one could also ask "What is normal for a Baseline?" The definition of what is or isn't normal is in the eye of the beholder. It is a matter of personal perception, not absolute truth.As for Jager's questions;1. We seem to be their most intense dreams, their worst nightmares, and deepest fantasies made flesh. Funny, what do you do when you get your hearts desire?2. A fairly nebulous and vague question. To be honest, it's not something I put much thought into. I am a person, so are they. I guess I would prefer if others saw me first and the quantum second.3. My family did not cease to exist simply because I erupted although the nature of our relationship has changed. Outside of my family, I still interact with baselines on a daily basis. It is nearly impossible to be a part of this world and not interact with them in some way, shape, or form (at least for me) even if it is just placing an order at the local "Quantum Burger." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Endeavor:I think the next question that should be asked, and it's one I ask myself, is what is a normal life for a Nova? Any takers?That depends on the given value of 'normal,' of course. Normal for a nova erupting in the Middle East is running like hell and hoping you don't die. Normal for a nova in Japan is getting worshipped. Normal for a nova in America is getting peppered with recruitment offers from the Army, from corporations, and from N! Normal for a nova down under is to leave down under. Normal for a nova in China is mandatory conscription.And so on...Normal for me, however, is - I'm pretty sure - not normal for other novas. I doubt many novas get the same thrills out of the same things I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 Jager.Perverse? More like adorable. You big kid, why do you do this to yourself? If you can't predict the spectrum of replies you're bound to receive, you're either slipping in your age or have become depressingly naive. If I may strap on my dancing-bear outfit, I'll entertain you.1. Nonexistant. In an ideal future, we would, in time, peaceably break away from our baseline roots and colonize habitable planets in other galaxies. As it stands, our existence throws everything off-kilter for baselines. We're fucking up their natural balance and have none of our own. The solution to both problems is singular -- autonomy.2. Relationships? I don't claim that no baseline contributes anything to my life, but that has more to do with risidual leanings to a life long gone than with some feeling of humanity deep within me. Our children and our children's children may very well view baselines as baselines view children. Certainly, they can mean something, and as thinking, rational, cognizant beings, they're capable still of showing up even the best of us. But the prevailing attitude is one of patronage, as I'm sorry to say it rightly should be.3. Currently, they are the extras and background characters in the story of my life. But I engineered it thusly, so that's no surprise..ronin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 I) What do you see as the role(s) of novas in baseline society, if any?If we are willing to give aid to them, I say, give aid to them. We certainly have the power to spare when it comes to changing the world. I don't think we are entitled to giving them everything they ask for, but since we share the planet with them, I don't see the harm in improving our global living conditions. I, for example, make my earnings by diverting disasters such as hurricanes and tornadoes with my control over the air.II) What is your vision of the ideal relationship for you and any baseline(s)?It's hard to tell. Things like relationships between different groups of people have a tendency of changing, but I think that eventually, many of us are going to simply be too distant to socialize with baselines anymore. There's been a pronounced increase in the levels of taint in the last few years on average, and that seems to be the main variable that causes a divergence between Novas and baselines (and indeed, Novas and other Novas, as well). I don't mind having a relationship with a baseline, I still am fairly attached to my family and friends. I have enhanced cognitive development, but I don't feel all that removed from the person I was pre-eruption. I hope to stay that way, call it stagnation or sentimentality, but I like my current level of enlightenment.III) What role, if any, do baselines currently have in your life?I have friends and family that are baseline. I deal with baselines when I do my job of preventing disasters and I read works by baselines. They are the majority when it comes to sentient life on earth, so I have to say that they have a fairly big influence on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Preston Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 I) More than equals, less than gods, tyrants, or messiahs. Frankly, I am not sure.II) A collaborative effort were novas benignly aid baselines as they forge their own destiny, while we forge ours. I am really beginning to feel that we really just aren't the same. Sorry Dad.III) Right now, they are my contemporaries, teachers, assistants, and benificiaries of my aid. There is just so much for me to experience and learn. Becoming a nova has opened up a whole new venue of things I am now brave enough to explore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 I. We demonstrate the grandeur of life while reminding them of their proper place within that design.II. A meaningless question.III. I am their window into that which lay beyond their petty schemes and mean desires. I am the doorway through which they may see the works of the gods and bear witness. They come to me for that which they cannot find within themselves. And in return I am all things for them.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Condomble.Careful there. With that attitude, you're apt to run out of Vaseline really quickly.And try not to get any jizm on your keyboard, for fuck's sake..ronin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Wrong gender. Find yourself a partner and masturbation wouldn't be your only option.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Condomble:I. We demonstrate the grandeur of life while reminding them of their proper place within that design.II. A meaningless question.III. I am their window into that which lay beyond their petty schemes and mean desires. I am the doorway through which they may see the works of the gods and bear witness. They come to me for that which they cannot find within themselves. And in return I am all things for them.~C~Let me guess, one day, when your node decided to say hello, it decided to increase your mental capacity... Not to mention your perceptions of the world.I had a longer rant in mind, but all I really need to say is this...Just because you have a node dosen't mean you have any higher rank in the grand scheme of things.To apply Occam's razor to this post...Get over yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Damn... I should follow my own advice...Talk about calling the kettle black...*nervous giggle* @.@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Endeavor:Let me guess, one day, when your node decided to say hello...And again it is proven that a little knowledge is a most dangerous thing. My supplicants would have known to seek knowledge before proclaiming ignorance. ~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Let me guess, you're a nitpicker.You know, one who, to dodge a debate, attacks the form or writing of another.It was a metaphor. A figure of speech.You really haven't done any creative thinking (other than the fantasy that you're some sort of god) have you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widget Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Jager:It has been a while since I posted a question, so I thought I would re-open this old wound.Given the growing population of novas in the world, those to whom it is an old wound are becoming a minority. Quote:I) What do you see as the role(s) of novas in baseline society, if any?To pursue our own interests of course. For those whose interests lay within the baseline societies this becomes a more complex matter as they must decide for themselves to what degree they will allow their actions to be dictated by a social contract that does not reflect their capabilties. For some this is merely a matter of current interests while others want nothing more than to be the gifted among the less capable baseline population.Quote:II) What is your vision of the ideal relationship for you and any baseline(s)?Any in which they were either more forthright in their selfish interests or at least capable of accepting the transparency of their efforts to dissemble.Quote:III) What role, if any, do baselines currently have in your life?This is an interesting question in that there are baselines in my life and it forced me to re-examine my motivations for allowing it. To be blunt there are those whom I use as tools and nothing more. With the exception of a politician or two they know the exact nature of the relationship and should know not to rely on sentimentality in our dealings. There are some whom I fond of however. For a variety of reasons.<font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#BC47ED">W</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><font color="#D673FF">idget,</font><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="1"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Jager:I) What do you see as the role(s) of novas in baseline society, if any?II) What is your vision of the ideal relationship for you and any baseline(s)?III) What role, if any, do baselines currently have in your life?Ew, kewl! Questions!! Man, is this like those Cosmo quizes my Gramma used to take?Ok, here goes.I. Hey man, we are the big bright burning badass stars of the universe. We smile and the sun shines, we shake it and everyone gets hot, we rock it and everyone parties. The big ol world just got to jaded for Madonna or stories about King Arthur to cut it anymore and along we come. Celebrities, bigger n' badder than ever before. 'Cept we don't burn out from drugs and too much fuckin. We just keep going and going, rockin and rollin, partyin and playin. Give the little people something to wish they could be.II. Object of abject worship. Sex God. Metal Hero. The long haired freak with the titanium guitar covered in electricity towering over the panting, screaming fans in the audience. The Man, The One The Only Jukebox Rocker Towering Over His Subjects. Give meaning to their sadass lives. Give them something to dream about. Be that face in their minds when their fingers are dancing down below.III. Fans. People to fuck. People who chuck money at me begging me to cover the great metal of the past and kick Skew to the curb like the punk ass bitch he is. People who give me booze and drugs and point cameras at me begging me for a little bit more. People who want more than I could ever want to give them and still love me when I tell them to fuck the hell right off.Man, I like this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Endeavor:Let me guess, you're a nitpicker.Is your marksmanship often so very poor? Yet again you manage to miss the target you've aimed so carefully for. Not really surprising as you've yet to heed anything beyond the cacophany of voices in your own head. Shall I take pity on you and assuage your frightful ignorance? Or allow you to continue to bluster and play the fool?I think the fool. Rewarding ignorance would only set a precedent. Perhaps after you've embarrassed yourself a little more I'll feel differently.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Okay, I think I've figured you out. You're ego is so big, you forget to see the fact that your insults have no form or function against me. All you have done, from what I can gather, is attack me on things that are a complete tangent from what I get at. You refuse to see the point I present to you, on a silver platter even, so I'll make it blaringly clear.YOU HAVE A FUCKING GOD COMPLEX, YOU EGOMANIACAL TWIT!There. Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Chillmeister Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Endeavor: I'll make it blaringly clear.YOU HAVE A FUCKING GOD COMPLEX, YOU EGOMANIACAL TWIT!There. Happy?Well shit honey, maybe he's got a reason? Hell, a lot of us have a pretty good reason to be high steppin all over the place thinkin' we high up on the Big Man's list of really cool fuckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Endeavor,While you continue to present yourself as a some sort of victim, the truth is that you created this situation entirely by your own actions in voicing loud and ill conceived words rooted in one very questionable assumption.You assume I believe myself to be a god. Read the original words again and this time see them without the lense of your prejudices.When you are ready to ask a question and seek knowledge I will return to you. You may find that course to be less embarrassing than your current.Chillmeister,I commend for being able to conceive the possibility, but I have no reason to believe myself a god. In fact, I have many reasons to believe the opposite. When Endeavor has spent her passion perhaps we can speak further.There are some similarities between our vocations.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Get over yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 There is no need to feel embarrassment. You are wiser than before so your actions achieved a positive result.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Really. I'm glad you think that way. I hope I've lightened your life as well, sweetheart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 I would say enlightened rather than lightened as I do not see this encounter as a joke.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Okay guru. Talk. I'm open. It's rare you'll get this opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 What you like to talk about then?~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Why is it you're now taking interest in following me around on the boards for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 One of us speaks, the other responds. It doesn't seem so very odd. In many circles something very much like this passes for conversation.One could as easily say you are following me as it was you that initiated the conversation. Was there something else you desired to speak about?~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 ...Damn. You do have me in check.I do not. That is, have anything further to say. I can see I've already stuck my foot in my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 I have no desire to "place you in check". It sounds like an awkward position. I should be around at a later time if you have questions.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Actually, I should have said chackmate. I went in blindly, and... well... stayed on such an attack posture that I didn't see the forest for the trees. I guess I am guilty at times of things that I rail on others about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condomble Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 That is a positive result then. Now that you know this about yourself, you may choose to react otherwise in the future.~C~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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