Widget Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Arek:I've yet to meet anyone quite as antagonistic as you. Do you need to point out the flaws in everything? Is being critical part of you nature? I'm really asking too many questions, but I'd like to know as to why you seem to enjoy insulting others so readily.My congratulations on a new experience, no and no - but sometimes it needs to be done.Being able and willing to do something, easily or not, has little to do with whether I take pleasure. Arek, suppose I explained that someone you liked was irresponsible. You might feel that I was being insulting but, friendship and affection aside, suppose I explained to you that they were deliberately fostering belief in a factual impossiblity merely to engender a personal delusion. And the reason behind the attempt was to avoid personal responsibility.Have I insulted them?Is it my duty to bring this to light for all to examine? Certainly not. I have better things to do than deal with every fractured psyche that had the genetic good fortune to erupt. However if that person engages me in a discussion concerning responsibility then I will. Not for reasons as spurious or eqotistical as "winning" a discussion. Not to hurt them. Not to hold them up for ridicule. To inform them that they are wasting my time, that I am aware they are wasting my time, that they are doing it to satisfy their own selfish needs and they can stop now. How can they provide me, or anyone, insight into the concept of personal responsibility except to display its absence? Three here can be described in this manner, ranging from virtually dysfunctional to merely "quirky". This is not to be construed as justification for stating the sometimes obvious truth. Yes, I would place restrictions on the rights of some to procreate for the reasons I specified though most don't understand the reasons or wish to. Yes, I do believe I am proveably more intelligent than 99% in the same manner that "Doctor Troll" is stronger than 99% of the population. And just as he doesn't feel the need to tout his strength to all (beyond his signature line), I don't usually feel the need to rub someone's face in my greater intellect.When someone asks me why I act as if I were more intelligent I have three choices. The first is false modesty. The second is to treat them as slow witted children and mislead or lie to them. The third is to treat them as adults, as equals, and tell them the truth. That it is because I am.<font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#BC47ED">W</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><font color="#D673FF">idget,</font><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="1"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I'll concede to your points. But doesn't it make it at least somewhat difficult to have a respectful conversation with others who might not be as intellectually advanced as you with such beliefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 A query:If, in your own words, you are wasting your time talking to them, then isn't it easiest and best to stop wasting your time and stop talking to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widget Posted January 23, 2003 Author Share Posted January 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Arek:But doesn't it make it at least somewhat difficult to have a respectful conversation with others who might not be as intellectually advanced as you with such beliefs?Less so than you might believe overall but there are individual cases where it is extremely difficult. Irregardless of the sometimes difficult nature of the situation this is the reality. And I didn't think you asked too many questions.Quote:Originally posted by Vixen:If, in your own words, you are wasting your time talking to them, then isn't it easiest and best to stop wasting your time and stop talking to them?Two points. One; a characteristic of this media seems to be when a number of reasons are cited only one or two are referenced. It was this behaviour that caused Sandy to erroneously claim "total freedom" was my goal. There were four reasons cited not merely one. Two; I did not say I was wasting my time, I said they were wasting my time. Easiest? Yes, ignoring them would obligate the least of my energies and time. But is it the best?Consider; a nova that spends the majority of their time in a dormant state is not a nova that has anything to communicate on the subject of being a nova. The exact rationale for why they spend their time in this manner varies from nova to nova but the fact remains that they choose to become less than they are, and therefore they have nothing of value to say on what it means to be what they are. How could they when they hide from it? This person is wasting my time when they interject into a discussion on being nova and as a rule their comments are generally nothing more than clumsy statements designed to support whatever self-fulfilling and flimsy rationale they've concocted to "explain" their situation. This does not mean they have nothing of value to say on other subjects. Even a madman may have a brilliant insight. And when this hypothetical nova finally owns up to their culpability rather than retreating into fantasy, when they choose to communicate meaningfully with others rather than fostering their pet delusions, what insights might they possess? What contributions might they make?<font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#BC47ED">W</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><font color="#D673FF">idget,</font><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="1"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 This might be a bad time, Widget, to point out that I do spend most of my time dormed down.I would tell you why, but you've made it clear that you don't care to hear my reasons, even though I am a nova and have the M-R node to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widget Posted January 23, 2003 Author Share Posted January 23, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Vixen:This might be a bad time, Widget, to point out that I do spend most of my time dormed down.On the contrary, it is an excellent time and not unpredicted. Thank you for substantiating the point and hopefully you'll have insights in another subject to validate my faith in possibility.<font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#BC47ED">W</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><font color="#D673FF">idget,</font><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="1"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Just a thought: Insult is taken, not given. Anyone can say what ever crap that comes to mind, but it is the listener who decides if it is insulting or not.Widget likes to speak her mind. So what? She is an adult and so is everyone here she is talking to.Wether any of us decide that her words or tone is aggravating is our choice, as well. We should act accordingly and remember the world isn't always a nice place. Live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apep Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 I find her honesty refreshing. I'm not insulted by her opinions in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Widget:On the contrary, it is an excellent time and not unpredicted. Thank you for substantiating the point and hopefully you'll have insights in another subject to validate my faith in possibility.I was going to reply to the original version of this you posted, but I guess even geniuses need to correct themselves. You say that I have nothing to communicate on the subject of being a nova because I spend a lot of time dormed down, without even asking WHY it is that I do this. Why? Why is your definition of novahood the only one worth considering? The M-R node is in my head no matter how much quantum energy is sizzling through it at present. You do an MRI scan of my brain when I'm dormed and you'll see it. Even dormed, I can't get a buzz off of alcohol (not that I'd really want to - the stuff tastes like licking a septic tank) and I can stay up for days on end. Since a nova is defined by the genetic sequencing that allows the node to grow and the existance of the node itself, and since I posess both no matter what I look like, it stands to reason that I'm a nova for just as many hours out of the day as you are, and that my choices in how I define myself and my abilities and what I do with them are as valid as yours. If you ever want to hear them, let me know.Or don't. I'm sure that such a smart person as yourself doesn't need any more knowledge anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widget Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Vixen:I was going to reply to the original version of this you posted, but I guess even geniuses need to correct themselves. Try not to guess without need. The message was the same in either form but I did alter the phrasing to diminish the possibility that you would respond to some perception of "tone". In response you've reviewed the genetic basis for MR node formation and drawn attention to the fact that you have one. How utterly fascinating as an insight into what it means to be a nova.As a matter of curiosity did you write this while dormant or did you require quantum?<font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#BC47ED">W</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><font color="#D673FF">idget,</font><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="1"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widget Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 To Jager, Apep and (belatedly) Arek; It is gratifying to find others capable of grasping a point.<font face="Times New Roman" size="5" color="#BC47ED">W</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><font color="#D673FF">idget,</font><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="1"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Vixen:...I do spend most of my time dormed down...OK, I'll play straight man and ask the obvious question. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Perhaps because she's still not completely comfortable with her Nova form. It is a large jump from the original form that she had most of her life, apparently...unless she was born with fur and a tail for an appendage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith:OK, I'll play straight man and ask the obvious question. Why?Because there is no spice that can make food taste as good as hunger.I would loose perspective on the exhilaration of smelling the world, of flying over it, of being wrapped eternally in warmth, if that was the only way I saw the world, if I had nothing to contrast it against. It is a fundamental of modern philosophical thought that what is absent is just as important as what is there. Being Roxanne Richardson gives me perspective on who The Vixen is, and likewise, being The Vixen brings sharper relief to Roxanne Richardson. Acknowledging both makes me a more complete being.Because sometimes the only thing that makes being a nova bearable is the thought of being able to hide from it for a time.People do sometimes recognize me as Roxanne, but they don't always recognize me - I don't stand out quite as much. Everyone knows I'm a nova when I'm 'on' as Vixen, by contrast, and there are times - many times - where that's more of a hinderance than a help. Shopping for Happy-O's and heaps of shampoo at the supermarket, for example, or going to take my driver's test. Taking in a movie - even hyperperception only goes so far towards hearing a movie over cries of "Oh my God is that who I think it is...?" Lots of novas like being famous. I don't. Because being one thing and another simultaneously is a quality of quantum states.In other words, I can do what Walt Whitman said I could do and contradict myself by being normal and nova at the same time. Being a nova means you can do anything, and therefore anything that you do is an affirmation of your status as a nova. But ignoring that premise, many people consider 'doing the impossible' to be a sure sign of nova-hood. Well, what could be more impossible - and more fitting for a quantum-powered being - than existing as two things at once?Because I like doing it.So there.*ppphhhbbbbttt* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Qutestion; Shouldn't your last answer be the first, foremost, and only answer you need give this question? Why do you feel the need to justify yourself to those who don't truly know you?You like to Dorm. It gives you pleasure to do so. Why worry about the judgments of others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixen Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Avatar:Qutestion; Shouldn't your last answer be the first, foremost, and only answer you need give this question? Why do you feel the need to justify yourself to those who don't truly know you?You like to Dorm. It gives you pleasure to do so. Why worry about the judgments of others?Because I don't really know which answers they'll listen to and which they'll disregard, so I find it best to give out as many as I can, in the hopes that one will stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Few people do things for only one reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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