Arek Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 We live in a dangerous world. It was like that long before Novas arrived and it will continue to be that way until it burns out. People developed styles of fighting, from boxing to greco Roman wrestling, to Gung Fu, to Karate. Even those amongst us Novas who have incredible strength and speed tend to gain skills and techniques from these forms of pugilism. Or maybe others have abilities that prevent others from getting anywhere near them? I am a second degree (or Dan) in Gung Fu and have been practicing Tai Chi Chuan and Tai Chi Kung (combative versions of the art) since I erupted. My affinity for wind and movement makes me very efficient at sudden moves that redirect my opponent. I have slightly superhuman strength, but body mechanics is mostly what I rely on for my techniques. However, sometimes, my opponents have vastly different body mechanics than the techniques were meant for, or they can counter them in an unforseen way (like flying out of a hold, or being untrippable via levitation). I've made a few adjustments, but I've been wondering how other Novas work with out these situations.My point is, how exactly do you fight, when things go bad? Do you have any specific school of martial skills that you use and train in? When you need to exercise your skills, who do you train and spar with? How do you compensate for difference in abilities? What type of protective gear do you use? DO you try to compensate, or do you go full out and try to rough each other up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Horse Charlie Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 How do I fight?I used to like to watch WWF and WCW when I was a squishee. That stuff actually kinda works when your this strong.I've taken a coupla boxing lessons too. I don't think I'm quite graceful enough for any of that karate and kung fu stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakurako Hino Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 How Endeavor knuckles upOkay, heres how I take care of buisiness. I was originally (pre-eruption) taught Kendo. After eruption, I some how know how to do both Karate and a weird mix of Capoieria and Wu-Shu. I weild a mean sword too.I don't really toy around when it goes down to brass tacks. But I'm definately not elite quality. But, I can defend myself if need be from crazed cultists and rogues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugin Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 I prefer to avoid physical conflict at all costs. I am much for fragile than many of you, my tougher and stronger bretheren.Now, as for sparring, or simple practice for peace of mind? Then I do have a few styles I enjoy to practice. Muy Thai, Akido, Jujitsu, Judo, Karate (Kempo and Shotokan), Capoiera, Gung Fu (various schools), and occasionaly, when I'm feeling perky, Savate. But really, only in an effort to remain limber and alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 ...how exactly do you fight, when things go bad? Do you have any specific school of martial skills that you use and train in?I'm not sure if I have a school. Generally I just start swinging. When I erupted knowing how to fight was just part of the package.When you need to exercise your skills, who do you train and spar with? DeVries thankfully supplies pretty good sparing rings and opponents. How do you compensate for difference in abilities?For the most part we don't.What type of protective gear do you use? None. If I get hurt I just heal.DO you try to compensate, or do you go full out and try to rough each other up?Generally when we spar the rules are that we aren't supposed to delibrately kill or maim each other. I normally insist that they try to kill me (makes it more interesting and fair). If they actually do so I don't hold it against them.One thing I have learned, the secret to good combat is simple, Don't dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek Posted January 5, 2003 Author Share Posted January 5, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith:One thing I have learned, the secret to good combat is simple, Don't dodge. I wish I could say the same thing. Not all of us can shrug off artillery fire, Mr. Troll. I'm fairly tough. Most low caliber rounds don't penetrate, unless they are armor piercing. Heavier stuff hurts. Alot. And I don't heal quite as fast as some of you guys, bullet wounds take a couple of days to patch up. When I stir up some winds, I can deflect pretty much anything short of rockets or anti-tank weapons, but that's if I have a little time to prepare. My reflexes have been gauged as roughly 40 times faster than an average human. I can snatch bullets out of the air and evade expertly trained punches like a drunken snail. Most of the time, that's all I do. DODGE. It works too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Oh man. I hate fighting guys like you, its so frustrating. Only once have I had to do so in the field (not counting the numberous times I've gotten beaten up in practice) and he stuck it out until I finally landed a punch. But if he had just left there wouldn't have been anything I could do to stop him.This could be a real problem, any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Horse Charlie Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Eh, I've only gone up against those lightning quick kinda guys a coupla times. I figured out if I took one of my big ass feet and just gave a good old stomp on the ground that will give them a good pause. Then I squish them.Otherwise, hey, I get paid to try, not to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknokat Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Like many here, I prefer not to fight if at all possible. I'm just a little... squishable, if you get the drift.But, when I have to fight, I subscribe to the High-tech High-tail school of combat. High tech gadgets for distraction while you High-tail it out of there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Fighting, that a dirty thing.I think I have it pretty good on this one, I am not stronger than say a well trained base line..But how strong you are doesn't change how well you fight.At least in terms of being a nova.I can catch bullets out of the sky.I can take tank shells to the chest, and laugh it off..I can walk threw blast doors s they were nothing.To be honest the best way for me to fight people quicker than me, is to let them hit me.But when I do need a fighting style,I tend to use wild Cats.Nothing Flashy, nothing to say it is anything but away of killing people.Here is the low down, fight is wrong, I know this..Most of you know this as well.So aside from sparing I do not fight, unless I plan on killing someone.I mean, the only reasons there are to fight are worth killing.If I happen to not kill someone in a fight, then they do not die.But there is no reason to fight that killing is not the goal.Needless to say, I do not fight much, and the fights I have are wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gaedel Glas Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Escrima. 'Tis technically self defense. Ta use it proper they be coming at ya. 'Tis self defense by taking 'em apart a piece at a time.I learned from a Swede in Dublin 'n him from his Uncle. It's nae for the sensitive or them wanting elegance. 'Tis simple and harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Hmmm...Arek, in my experience, fighting your type of fight and denying your opponent his style is one of the basics.If you are jumped, buy time and figure out what your opponent is trying to do. Better yet, leave.Of course, you wanted something else.Me, I am adaptive. I make my actions appropriate to the terrain, opponent(s), and what I need to do. I don't accept limitations. You are a nova, so you can probably exceed any baseline fighting style with relatively ease. Break out of the style and make it your own. Don't forget to use your size to your advantage, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Arek.I also was trained in Kendo as a baseline. Erupting turned whatever rudimentary sword skill I had into ability the likes of which Musashi would be jealous of. Because of my expanded mental capacity and physical discipline, I've only become better since then. I'm a melee-type, myself, so I went with that. It was difficult finding people who could teach me anything, but in time, I found them and learned what I could. For me, it helps that I can survive missiles, but so as not to become lazy, I've developed a few tricks besides. I'm not fast so much fast as just quick-thinking.Sparring will always be a problem as you'll never find anyone to equal you. And trying to put yourself on an even keel with another nova is an exercise if futility. Take your lumps. With a few exceptions, everyone has an Achilles' heel, and you'll just have to live long to find out what it is..ronin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apep Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Divulge to you all my combat secrets? No thank you.I will say that since, from what I can tell, it is the only thing I was raised for. I believe I have studied just about everything since I could learn to walk. I have some interesting memories of playing pinata when I was very small that didn't exactly involve a paper animal, anyways. I think my teachings were pretty thorough. As it is now though I think my style is some weird amalgamation of all of it, mixed together to reflect my quantum abilites. I'm pretty versatile as far as how to strike and evade especially.Usually the thing that enusures survival is to hit 'em fast and hard. Few people fight back when their head is removed. But sometimes I can't resist the urge to play and don't even unsheath my claws. I'm not too worried about protection, I heal pretty fast and sometimes the pain from a well struck blow is all it takes to really get me going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Apep.Your youth betrays your better judgement. After adamantly claiming that you won't expose yourself, provoking vulnerability, you share with us a weakness of yours. Shame, shame, know your name.The fact that you "cannot resist" anything -- let alone sadism for kicks -- may prove to be your downfall if you don't outgrow it.I don't mean to talk down to you in this. But in order to be the best combatant, one must be focused and resolute. File this under 'advice', and take it or don't..ronin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Personaly, I wouldn't call Apep a youth. It is not how old your body is, but how long you have been in the "trade".For that matter, I have beaten "better men". Few fights are hopeless and I have never met anyone who was unbeatable ... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 My fighting style? I move, they stop moving, it's that simple. I hate to use violence to get done what I need to get done, but sometimes people refuse to accept any other way of doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violette 'V' D'Aronique Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Jeez, talk about a big dick contest. I guess when ronin asked everyone to take their dicks elsewhere, they moved them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Horse Charlie Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Hey babe, someone asked we answered. I don't see no one talking smack here. Yeah, it could devolve into a 'I'm gonna kick yer ass' , 'no you can't' kinda thing. Doesn't look like it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANKER Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Damn straight Charlie! Even I ain't gonna say it. You all know it anyways! :-DSo Charlie, you still working your ass off for the old lady Anna? - Warlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Horse Charlie Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 On and off. I prefer the freelance life. That general/colonel guy, he's a bit too hardcase for me. I like working for the Janissairies whenever I get the chance. The pay pretty good and don't expect you to fork over money for savings or training. That and some of the Egyptians who work there seem to think the whole RiverHorse looking thing is pretty cool. So I'm down with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apep Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Silly ronin, I may have had some serious problems with that sort of thing for a while, but I've learned how to turn that drive to my advantage. No need to be insulting. But feel free to believe you have me pegged all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Davis Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Ohh my V, I think you should come around more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gaedel Glas Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Sandy Davis- Miss-Fortune:Ohh my V, I think you should come around more.Aye.There's no such thing as aenough women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violette 'V' D'Aronique Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by River Horse Charlie:Yeah, it could devolve into a 'I'm gonna kick yer ass' , 'no you can't' kinda thing. Doesn't look like it though.No, it's just a "when I fight, people die," or "when I fight, people don't get up," kinda thing. Some of you are really overconfident in your combat prowess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gaedel Glas Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 'Tis been a while since the Project sponsored a friendly competition lass. Maybe nows the time. Just for the good will o' course.There's nothing quite so educational as watching a hard man being taken down by a slip o' a girl. I'd pay ta see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote:Violette 'V' D'Aronique:Some of you are really overconfident in your combat prowess. [/QB]That too was part of the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANKER Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Violette 'V' D'Aronique: Quote:Originally posted by River Horse Charlie:Yeah, it could devolve into a 'I'm gonna kick yer ass' , 'no you can't' kinda thing. Doesn't look like it though.No, it's just a "when I fight, people die," or "when I fight, people don't get up," kinda thing. Some of you are really overconfident in your combat prowess. How can you decide whether anyone is overconfident or rightly confident?I didn't survive almost ten years as an Elite without learning my weaknesses. It will be a very cold day in hell before I publish them here though. I'm not saying you were talking about me, I'm using my arrogant self as an example. I can take down any baseline in unarmed combat. Therefore I can take down many novas without breking a sweat. I have humiliated dozens of Elites using my powers over air, sound and winds.This should rightly give me confidence. I have been defeated by better men and women on a few occasions. I was not surprised when it happened, I already knew they were better than me. Those defeats had nothing to do with overconfidence and everything to do with sticking to a contract gone foul. It seems to me that you are doing your best to spice things up here. I like that! - Warlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Apep.Just taking you at your word, love. If anything I said was wrong, it's because you misrepresented yourself. If you prefer, we'll hook up sometime and you can let your actions speak for you. And don't confuse talking down to you -- which would have been a fault on my part -- with talking above your head -- which you simply cannot conceive just yet. There's a fine line, but trust me, it's there.Just funnin' you, Apep. Jager.You're all kids to me, mate..ronin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Horse Charlie Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Violette 'V' D'Aronique: Quote:Originally posted by River Horse Charlie:Yeah, it could devolve into a 'I'm gonna kick yer ass' , 'no you can't' kinda thing. Doesn't look like it though.No, it's just a "when I fight, people die," or "when I fight, people don't get up," kinda thing. Some of you are really overconfident in your combat prowess. Well, if I don't at least act that way I'm not going to get many jobs. Shrinking violets don't make a lot of cash. Plus, when you look like me, sometimes if you talk real big some guys will just take a walk without even making a fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violette 'V' D'Aronique Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Warlock:How can you decide whether anyone is overconfident or rightly confident?It seems to me that you are doing your best to spice things up here. I like that! - WarlockWell, actually, it's more that anyone that I've known in real life that could really fight has never felt the need to quantify their deadliness or impress me with their statistics.They'd just tell me what they could do, but not that they could do this "take down several Novas without breaking a sweat" for example.I guess I just believe that the truly dangerous folk out there never really have to prove that they're dangerous in some kind of pissing contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agnelli Celeste Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 V, I would greatly enjoy meeting you.I have heard a little about you,and I think I would like to be like you.Well part of the time, you seem to have everything under control.Now do not get this wrong,I do not wish to start anything bad at all, but, if we do meet, could you spar me?I may be small, but I am soft. No,no that didn't come out right.I meant,I may be young, and still lacking in skill,but I am fast and lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David 'Dr. Troll' Smith Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by River Horse Charlie:...when you look like me, sometimes if you talk real big some guys will just take a walk without even making a fuss.Tell me about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apep Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by ronin: If anything I said was wrong, it's because you misrepresented yourself. Yeah I know, I have a problem with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violette 'V' D'Aronique Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Quote:Originally posted by Agnelli Celeste:V, if we do meet, could you spar me?I may be small, but I am soft. No,no that didn't come out right.I meant,I may be young, and still lacking in skill,but I am fast and lucky.Ag,Um....I guess? Talk to the Director and see you if can get assigned to the Americas Auxillary for a few weeks. I'm still on active duty and don't have a lot of free time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agnelli Celeste Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 V, I am a member of TN2M Americas, presently pointed to be second in command. I am on half duty. It is a slow time for TN2M, here in the Americas . I am doing PA adds for things like not joining gangs,and ,other civic things.Oh and some "light" training I am thankful that I am not in central,I hear Pax really grinds down on all the TN2mers there.But it is understandable as I have only been in TN2M for a few months. And TN2M in the Americas is only a few weeks older than that. So, I understand you not knowing of me. And by the way I am a huge fan of yours. I have that poster of you totally looking awesome.Maybe I could help you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violette 'V' D'Aronique Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Oh, I knew of you, Ag, just not where you were currently assigned.Wow, Tn2M in the Americas, huh? Well, enjoy the PA tour while you can, and if your Director (I think it's Hodge) will let you spend some time with the Auxillary, let me know.I guess I'm flattered to know someone in Tn2M is a fan. Wow. That's mind-blowing. I was considered a child back when I became part of the Auxillary. It's weird thinking that we have younger Novas than me in the Project. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Hello everyone.I've been lurking for some time. I was pointed here by a friend who finds this place stimulating. To answer your question Arek, I had some experience with Aikido before erupting, quickly learnt some Muy Thai during de Vries boot camp and now that I'm retired from that business, I keep myself sharp with Kenjutsu and Tai Chi. I have also developed a few moves of my own, used underwater.My first few missions I realised everyone expected me to just charge right in and kick ass, so I did. I have always kept the more subtle techniques as a backup, just in case I ever need to surprise someone.I usually spar dormed down with a friend of mine or I do katas with my custom designed 200 kilogram claymore.- Cheers, Hammerhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agnelli Celeste Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Are you kidding me. I used to fallow like all the comic books. I was a major shut in, being deaf and all. I mean, I watched you on N!prime whenever they showed you. I will admit it. I started off doing this because you have a cool name, but when I saw more of you, you soon be became like one of my favorites I mean aside from Thorn,Slider( I will never forget her),Ragnrockette,did I say Thorn and maybe a few others?Well, your high up there.As for being young I am 17.Thank you very much I have been a nova for nearly a year. And if it stays this slow I think I can ask to do a bit with T2M. After all it is pretty clear that is where I am planing on going when I turn 21.I could join at a younger age, but I think I want to make sure Tn2M is doing well, and that they know what they are doing. Also I hated being thought of as a rookie. The first months on Tn2M was a pain. I had to do things like go into..Well I do not think it mater. Let's just say it wasn't fun.As for the Director of Tn2M America it is Steiner. Oh he is the nicest little German man.I mean he looks like a grand father, and I think he is a nova. I mean when he tells you not to do something, you just don't.If you do and he confronts you about it, it is like you know you did something wrong and you some how punish yourself.Look at me,, dragging on like I am writing a sister.I look forward to seeing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Bastards never made a comic book out of me....ronin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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