Heritage Posted June 25, 2004 Author Share Posted June 25, 2004 I build mine off line and then copy them in.I've found it is much more stable that way.Sometimes I do that in Word and then paste it, but I honestly didn't realize it was going to be that big. Usually halfway through when I realize it's getting big, I copy and paste it to a doc, but it was late and I screwed up.Oh well, as Bullwinkle T. Moose says, "This time for sure!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 27, 2004 Author Share Posted June 27, 2004 Still working on the lost post - should have it pasted from Word soon!Raiders of the Lost PostDun da dun DA, dun da Da! Dun da dun DA, da da da Da! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 Pa paDAda daDAda daDAAdadadaaaa!! ::biggrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 28, 2004 Author Share Posted June 28, 2004 Long Post is kicking my ass, but I'm nearly finished, gang, I swear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfPotts Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Cor... with all this build-up it better be the best darned post ever witnessed by man! ::shocked ::blink ... No pressure or anything... ::tongue ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Im sure it will be good. Frenchie needs a good chewin' out. He is doin' the typical "I have won so im treatin' you like trash" thing now. Then there is havok acting like he didnt do anything wrong by not *already* having all this taken care of. Then...uhhh...Epstein going to kick Frenchie in da nutzz!It will be all sorts of War Journal crazyness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Then there is havok acting like he didnt do anything wrong by not *already* having all this taken care of.Having what taken care of? His daughter's custody? He learned he was going to be court-martialled about ten minutes ago...I think it's amazing he did what he did in the time he did it...unlike killing off that platoon.. ::rolleyes ::tongue ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 well...you did have 60 Turns to take them out...On the bright side you had 200 turns to change custody ::laugh ::wink ::sly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Ok...for the record...Heritage?You are such a tease... ::sneaky2 ::tongue ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Ok...for the record...Heritage?You are such a tease... Yeah, sorry about that ::blush ::halo Lost my internet connection for several days due to furniture being moved about for sanding and painting. I have every intention of putting the much-hated Long Post up before I sign off today. Just give me a few minutes, and all will be well.Of course with all the hype and build-up, I think the inevitable response will be 'We waited all this time for this? Heritage is definitly off his game.' ::tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Long Post is finished! ::thewave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Lynn said you had a go away, but I get to stay with her, and Khrysta smells like pancakes!Pancakes? ::sly ::laugh ::biggrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 She's got Blind Bewitchment: Smell. I made a slight boo-boo by having it work with Soothe (which is Mega-Char), but I'm sticking with it. ::tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 What! We only waited this much for this? I could've waited an extra week for something as mind bogglingly good! Wow!Exhibit A: Brown-nosing the storyteller...Yay, finally the game can get a move on, good post!Exhibit B: Unmitigated truth.Game OOOooon!!more Wayne's World flashing back...I haven't even seen it recently...guess I'm suffering from Wayndrawal or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 Boy, you sure are easy to please, zeke! ::biggrin Actually, it obviously took me days to recreate that damn post, but I think it turned out stronger, if only because Hawthorne turned out more developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 O'Reilly walks into the OR. Lobe tells him to 'put a mask on, for God's sake!'Sergeant Renee's t-port was shot down....over the Sea of Japan. There were no surviviors.There is only silence...Nah, just kidding! ::tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Dernet!! Dont do that M*A*S*H stuff to Renee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Well that was a Let's-make-room-for-the-new-character! post if I've ever seen one before! ::rolleyes Why's Frenchie leaving now that Havoc (his major source of Flak) is gone? What happened to his "I'm a Green first, Person second" I'll be here 'til death pries me from my duty no matter what, blabla? ::wacko I was hoping for some kind of revelation or death scene..."People, Zy am reely an alien vrom Blanet Metalix come here to zobserve fazinatting Oo-Mans and ze No-Va happeninks. Mosst interestink, must go now, report to ze Modersheep." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Bahamut and I discussed this in PMs; Frenchie is still not happy having the kid there, and I expect has picked up on the hostility that some folks are feeling towards him. A touch anti-climactic, perhaps, but I can't really think of the proper send-off at this time. I expect Frenchie will go back to 'Le Ceur', where men are men, kids have seperate play areas, and it rains baguettes every morning ::wink Perhaps he might come back someday. (shrug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 Okay, ridiculously huge Mega-Post is done! Any and all new characters can now join up at any time. PM me if you still have any final questions before bringing in the new blood. ::wacko Tell me about the rabbits, George.... ::wacko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 I put up my unfinished history of the Greens in the Fiction section, which I will update when I finish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfPotts Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Okay, I just went back & checked this...Ranks in the GreensRegular ArmyRank 0 --- Private (PVT)Rank * --- Corporal/Specialist ¹ (CPL/SPEC)Rank ** --- Sergeant (SGT)Rank ** --- First Sergeant ² (1ST SGT)Rank *** --- Sergeant Major ² (SGT MAJ)Rank *** --- Lieutenant ³ (LT)Rank **** --- Captain (CAPT)Rank ***** --- Major (MAJ)ScoutsRank 0 --- Scout, First Grade (SFG)Rank * --- Scout, Second Grade (S2G)Rank ** --- Scout, Third Grade (S3G)Rank *** --- Master Scout (MS)Rank **** --- Scout Captain (S-CAP)Rank ***** --- Scout Major (S-MAJ)CobrasNo Rank below ***Rank *** --- Sergeant, Special Operations (SSO)Rank **** --- Team Leader (TL)Rank ***** --- Commander (COM)Inner Circle (same in all branches) Rank ****** --- Colonel (COL)Rank ******* --- General (GEN)¹ This designation used in Engineers, Med Corps and Transport and Supply.² These ranks are administrative (non-combatant) positions.³ No personnel in Intelligence below this rank.... which has led to a couple of questions.First is that Havoc was regular army, but only a Sergeant Major, right? So he was meant to be an administrator & non-combatant after all that? That seems a little weird... ::confused More relevant to what's happening now - was the 'rank' issue ever sorted out re: dots Vs actual military rank? This came up when Havoc (Setgeant Major) was aguing with Frenchie (Sergeant, Special Operations) IIRC. The question is do all the new guys who are Lieutenants outrank Rex (a Sergeant Special Operations) even though they have the same number of dots Background-wise? Is he meant to salute them & all that crapola? Can Cobras (or Scouts for that matter) never earn a commisson at all? Or do the different branches have no authority over soldiers in other branches anyway? Sorry if this has been answered before, but I'd like to get it right before Rex pisses-off too many more PCs... ::lookaround Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 First is that Havoc was regular army, but only a Sergeant Major, right? So he was meant to be an administrator & non-combatant after all that? That seems a little weird... Why do you think regular army is non-combatant? The infantry is regular army, isn't it? Just because you aren't elite doesn't mean you don't fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 Okay, as I said before, last game with ranks ever! ::wacko The problem is that as a paramilitary operation, the Greens don't have commissions, just the titles associated with them. One of the problems that came up with Havoc was due to the fact that Ezekiel and I were still discussing his character when he was doing his posts - he went from a Cobra to Infantry after he was already refered to as a 'sergeant', so we made him a 'sergeant major' to cover the slip. Unfortunatly, this was before I read that Sergeant Majors are the only NCOs (to use a basically meaningless term as far as the Greens go) who are not called simply 'sergeant'.Master Scouts are considerd to be the same level as Lieutenants, but this still leaves the Cobras screwed. Originally, I felt that SSOs were the same level as Sergeant Majors, but this seems unfair, since SMs are an administrative position (Walter is an excellent example), and SSOs are clearly combat specialists.So here's the deal: seeing as early continuity in this game is seriously screwed up anyway, I'm going to make one final adjustment. SSOs are now considered to be the equivelent of Lts, will not have to address them as 'sir', and call them 'lieutenant', even though SSOs are still refered to as 'sergeant.' No one will ever mistake a Cobra for anything else than a Cobra, seeing as the uniforms are completly different one most of them are built like brick shithouses.It's not perfect, I know, but I think it takes care of the most problems while creating the least. Is this okay with everyone? I figure Frenchie and Havoc would have hated each other anyway, so not much is changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfPotts Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Why do you think regular army is non-combatant? The infantry is regular army, isn't it? Just because you aren't elite doesn't mean you don't fight... I don't. I was refering to the original post that Heritage made about rank (quoted in my last post ::rolleyes ) where we get these two statements about regular army sergeant majors:Rank *** --- Sergeant Major ² (SGT MAJ)² These ranks are administrative (non-combatant) positions.Hence my confusion (since Havoc didn't come across as a pencil-pusher).Of course, Heritage has now kindly cleared up the reasons for that little continuity 'bump'. Cheers Heritage! ::thumbsup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I don't. I was refering to the original post that Heritage made about rank (quoted in my last post ) where we get these two statements about regular army sergeant majors:Oh...Hence my confusion (since Havoc didn't come across as a pencil-pusher).Actually he was...he was going to kill Rex by cutting off his rations... ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 Okay, Bahamut, did you tell me Damian was a Cobra? I don't see it anywhere in all our communications, but I might have missed it. Colby most likely would not have teased a Cobra, no matter how young he looked, even if he was a giant pink bunny. Of course, she might not have been able to tell anyway, so I'll let her comment stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 He was almost made like that...but I did mention he was a cobra in a few places ::winkdont worry...I wont kill her yet ::biggrin ::devilangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooho Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 *sniff sniff* But then when are we going to get to the bloodletting? ::devilangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 No...I can understand how it would be difficult to see what he is as he isent wearing *anything* to denote rank or even if he is in the military. She could just think they are moving in another civvie for some reason or another ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I was thinking about it....and why dont we have an "Experiemental Rank System" to go alond with out "Experimental Unit"?We dont *have* to stick to ever other branch that way. We can just be assigned a "Base Rank" that would allow us to have a certian number of votes into what we do. We could all start out as, "Basic Base Personnel" level which would give one vote (i.e. 1 dot in rank) while a (as in one) "leader" figure (like the Capt or whoever) can have Base Commander that gives 5 votes (equivelent of rank 5), but is only allowed to use them when either a) he thinks something that we are going to do is a *baaaaaad* idea, or to break a tie.The progression could go like this:* - Basic Personnel** - Advanced Personnel*** - Tenured Personnel**** - Commanding Personnel*****- Cell CommanderOr something like that...just a thought. And it would help us to all be on an even footing. Of course this dosent mean that we have to give up our "official" rank...this would, of course, be an experiement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfPotts Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 Well, Rex for one thinks the idea of 'voting' under a military system is pretty stupid to start with, so wouldn't go for that.In any case, as Heritage has pointed out, the only real issues are with those 'ranks' that have names taken from actual military ranks, half the Green ranks are experimental / unique to the Greens. It's pretty clear now that the number of dots you have in the Background gives your relative rank, no matter what the associated 'title' happens to be - & we all start with 3 dots in that Background (unless something has changed in chargen for the new characters?) so all PCs will be on equal footing in any case. In theory you could have a character with the 3 dot rank 'head chef' & it'd still have the same amount of weight as any other 3 dot rank. At least that's how I understand Heritage's explanation.After all, the only time it's been an issue so far is when one PC tried to 'pull rank' on another PC - since we know we're all of equal rank that shouldn't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Green Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 Unless someone paid for an extra dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 & we all start with 3 dots in that Background (unless something has changed in chargen for the new characters?) Yeah, Ficklestein is actually Lieutenant Sergeant Major 1st grade Colonel Ernold Ficklestein. He's just waiting to pull rank!! ::devilangel ::tongue Actually I initially had extra rank but an extra dot gets you on the same level as Delacroix so I decided not to do it (there's no reason another Captain would come in) Ficklestein is probably the one with the lowliest rank in C&C...not necessarily on paper but recognition wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 Actually, you may recall the Rank in this game is the one background that cannot be bought - it can only be earned, meaning I set it. A player can make a case for a promotion, but only I can do the actual promoting. That may seem harsh, but I feel this is realistic and true to the setting. On the plus side, it never costs XP to raise it, and I will make every effort to promote characters based on fair criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 Zeke, I nearly ruptured something reading Ernold's post; remember, I need to be alive to run this game! ::tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezekiel Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 ::smile I'll try to keep it civil... ::wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 And remember...there is a child in the base still. No poppin anything at epstein while she is around, ok? ::wink ::laugh ::biggrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut810 Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 So, Emma, intel covers a lot of ground. What is it that you really doSHe is there to spy on Damien...they want to know the color of his underpants. They cant get that info out of him & the underpants gnomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Posted July 5, 2004 Author Share Posted July 5, 2004 Noting Lobe's boredom reminded me of something; I'd originally wanted to tweak the damage and health systems to cover the idea of combat medicine. I'd have to dig through my notes, but basically it was rules covering bleeding, stabilizing the injured, and use of medical supplies (how much was used, including if you botched, etc). The idea was to make injury much more dramatic and dangerous, seeing as it would now be possible to bleed to death. Mega-Stamina would obviously be a big factor as well.If folks are interested, I'll dig through my notes and present the ideas for discussion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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