Aberrant RPG - Mega-Attribute Books

[phoenix]

Hmm... How would you do a character like Glory/Ben? Two different players who share a high-level aberration which causes them to inhabit only one body, alternating control (and form, powers, etc.) with a natural cycle? Or even better, combine that with Ranma 1/2.. (I'm benevolent (pun not intended), but whenever I hear terr'r or novox I turn into The Evil One - only tomato juice can transform me back).

[Sprocket]

Those both sound like high-level aberrations to me, Phoenix- namely, Multiple Personality Disorder and some variant form of the Uncontrolled Transformation from the APG. The resulting "two-in-one" nova would be an extreme Taint-monkey, unless the aberrations were taken as only Flaws- again see the APG for details. Either way, it does sound interesting- unless it's one's own character with those particular problems! ::laugh

[ProfPotts]

Hmm... How would you do a character like Glory/Ben? Two different players who share a high-level aberration which causes them to inhabit only one body, alternating control (and form, powers, etc.) with a natural cycle? Or even better, combine that with Ranma 1/2.. (I'm benevolent (pun not intended), but whenever I hear terr'r or novox I turn into The Evil One - only tomato juice can transform me back).

"Hyde Syndrome" seems to pretty much cover it (since it includes the equivalent of 5 dots of Dormancy, Uncontrolled Transformation & Multiple Personality Disorder) - one form is a powerful mad god, the other is Joe Normal - their personalities are essentially seperate entities.

[Sprocket]

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! IT'S THE THREAD THAT WOULDN'T DIE!!! ::crazy

Seriously though, folks- the issue of the much-lamented and stillborn Social Mega-Attributes book has risen from the grave once more... and on White Wolf's Trinity Universe forum, no less! ::blink

It seems that several posters were complaining about their general ignorance of how to portray the effects of the Social Mega-Attributes in their gaming sessions, and the good Dr. Neutron sounded a wish that we fine folks over here at EON would take up that particular fallen banner. Not that our developers don't have very full plates already, but are we up for putting out our own version of Cult of Personality? ::unsure

We should figure out what to do about this before CHILL starts getting inquisitive e-mails from those White Wolf Forum posters, I think. If nothing else, we could tell them why we didn't have it in the works just yet... ::tongue

(BTW... If we do go ahead and put it out, should we come up with an alternate title? "Cult of Personality" may already have been copyrighted by White Wolf's legal department... Suggestions, anyone?)

[harlequin]

an idea worth thinking about at the least and it sounds fun. i'm not sure where chill would stand on it though considering the possiblity for copyright suits is slightly higher than just making something up. it's worth discussion in my opinion though.

[Bahamut810]

So you know...you cant copyright a book title. If you wanted to you could write a book about a little boy in venusuela and call it "A Clockwork Orange" and there is nothing they can do about it. Just dont expect to sell many of them...or to stay off the blacklist.

In this case...I wouldent see a problem with it as they never officially published it from what I have heard.

[Finbar]

No offense, Bahamut, but you need to seriously take a look at copywright law..

Basically, putting it on the internet in any form is considered publishing it. Also, yes, you could use the same title, as long as the same subject matter isn't covered...Still, it would be interesting to do our take on them...

FR

[Sprocket]

Hmmm... I'd have to agree with Finbar as far as the book title is concerned, Bahamut810. Even if we didn't get into legal entanglements with White Wolf, I think a different title would be worthwhile simply to avoid any confusion! After all, there are still rumors about CoP being on the Web somewhere in downloadable form. How's that for a modern-day El Dorado? ::biggrin

Aside from getting EON's best writer onboard the project (Aberrant: Brainwaves is going to be one tough act to follow! ::devil ), we should think about "reserving" certain enhancements and aberrations that've recently been posted on the "New Powers" thread. (All I'd have would be an aberration or two- most of the stuff I've posted ended up in the Aberrant Compendium, and using the stuff from that in the new book would seem sort of cheap.) Specifically, Glitch and T-dev have posted a few very good enhancements that would be excellent. (Tactful from T-dev; Yin-Yang, Symphony of Touch, and Pavlov's Bell from Glitch.)

Anyone else have any good ideas? Bring 'em on! ::devilangel

[Sprocket]

(Strains hearing to catch the faintest sound, but is rewarded with silence) ::blink

Well, how about that? No one else has any ideas that might help flesh out (or even provide additional bones for) the skeletal thing that is EON's version of the Social Mega-Attribute book? Hmmm.... ::unsure Oh, that's right! We don't even have a skeletal framework yet! Silly me! ::blush ::laugh

Well, here's a little something I've cobbled together, and I'm posting it here in good faith. It's really skeletal, but it seems workable enough...

Outline-

Introduction: title needed?

[intro, lexicon, etc.]

Chapter 1: title needed.

[Mega-Social "who's who"- nova cults/religions, factions, and alternative societies.]

Chapter 2: title needed.

[social maneuvering/conflicts/etc.]

Chapter 3: Storytelling.

[storytelling plots/ideas/ramifications/etc.]

Chapter 4: title needed.

[Mega-Attributes "in depth", worlds' view of given Mega-Attribute, new enhancements and aberrations. Also the problems that are specific to each Social Mega-Attribute]

Points of Interest-

1- Get a really good writer! Preferably, one who isn't already up to his or her neck in another project already.

2- Find alternate title in order to avoid potential wrangling with White Wolf's legal staff. (I'm still drawing blanks as far as title ideas here, folks. ::confused )

3- Think up descriptions of existing nova cults, and come up with a few new ones.

4- Track down authors of certain Mega-Social enhancements from EON (and possibly other sites), and see if they'd be willing to submit/donate them to EON for the Mega-Social book.

(EON Posters- T-dev: Tactful [Mega-Manipulation]; Glitch: Yin-Yang [Mega-Appearance], Symphony of Touch [Mega-Manipulation], Pavlov's Bell [Mega-Charisma].)

5- Develop appropriate new aberrations- shouldn't just use the ones from the "Aberrant Compendium"!

6- Possible section or chapter elements dealing with sex? Or should we try to keep it "adults only" (like another Duke Rollo book)? Before the whole Trinity/Aberrant/Adventure! product line was axed before its time, "Cult of Personality" WAS originally going to be a Black Dog Game Factory release, mind you...

Is this the start of something workable, or the straw that broke the camel's back? I'll leave it to you folks to decide. I'm not nearly good enough a writer to come up with it by myself, but I'd be glad to help out.

Note: Just to keep things simple, shouldn't we use the the "bare bones/bargain basement" layout used in Aberrant: Brainwaves for our Social Mega-Attributes book?

It'd come out a good deal more quickly, and I know that EON have folks eager to devour anything CHILL & Co. decides to put out... ::devilangel

[T-dev]

I would be happy to donate my work & collaborate in any way I can.

As to a title for the books.....hmm......thinking....

Ok how about, "Idols & Beauty" or "Social Pressure"? Dunno if they're any good, but it was my first thoughts.

I also was thinking that the book could be keep PG & do what it needs to do. Just leave the sex issue to the readers imagine, while dealing with the broader context of social interaction of the attractiveness of novas. I mean we just say that Mega-Socail Nova get the people they want & not go into too much detail or use words like seduction.

As too the negaitve sexual stuff, just talk about the other negaitve things a Mega-Social Nova can do (i.e. conning people) & make a passing comment about some using it to ba perverse, but not going into too much detail.

Sprocket,

Your outline looks good to me. I would definitely go the Brainwaves route.

[Gideon]

When this thread started it made me think about the other two books (Brute Force and Cult of Personnality) and I came up with an outline for BF, and a couple ideas for CoP. I think the Mega-Social book must also delve into mega-ulgy novas as well. I see the three mega-socials as:

Faces, Charmers, and Cons. That is Mega-Appearance novas are refered as "Faces, Addonis/Venus", Mega-Charismatics refered to as "Charmers,Friendlies", Mega-Manipulatives refered to as "Cons(short for Con-artists), Dealers". I think slang names for a nova that specializes in one Mega-Attribute is important for player flavor. As we saw in Brainwaves.

Similarly I came up with the nicknames; Pounders (Str), Tanks (Sta) and Speedsters (Dex) for the Mega-Physical novas.

As far as the CoP goes I figured that descriptions of no more than three cults to be the max (maybe only two?) There is already the Cult of Astaroth (which isn't a true cult), and the Archangel of Michael (the baseline cult) so the work should focus on the presentation of unique nova cults (for example, perhaps one that the nova does not participate, but the baselines/novas involved have formed it "in honor" of the nova ala Divis Mal and Scripture's group of accolytes?).

A look at the DeVries branch that deals with nova Spokepersons for corporations? This business would be more "normal" for mega-charismatics and Mega-Appearance novas.

And perhaps a look at Nova's Club for the Mega-Manipulative, i.e. to join you have to covertly destroy or create a start-up without spending a penny on it?

I see aberrations listed on this forum like Peter Pan Syndrome, Luscivious, and Kharmic Cycle.

And of course a brief analysis on the impacts of each attribute on baseline and nova society.

Mega-Appearance - Dieting and plastic surgery, teen suicide, modeling industry and fashion empire impacts. The teragen book refers to one nova's work to create her own fashion line...

Mega-Charisma - Bourgeoning politicians, hmmm need to think on this more.

Mega-Manipulation - dangerous sales-persons, Spycraft, perhaps a precidence setting the criminal use of this power??

This is just off the top of my head, I am still working on a version of Brute Force for my players... ::hehe

[Bahamut810]

Good Ideas there...I would like to help out also...

I finally have net connection at my place again so it will be much easier to help also ::laugh .

As for the cults...3 is a good number...1 nova-centric with nova, 1 nova-centric sans nova, and one... just nova mabey? I know nova's are rare in the world...but a cult of 5 or 6 of them would be interesting.

As for the outline...

Introduction: Welcome to my parlour...(said the spider to the fly)

[intro, lexicon, etc.]

Chapter 1: Faces of the world.

[Mega-Social "who's who"- nova cults/religions, factions, and alternative societies.]

Chapter 2: Manipulative Dealings

[social maneuvering/conflicts/etc.]

Chapter 3: Storytelling.

[storytelling plots/ideas/ramifications/etc.]

Chapter 4: Frightening, Wonderful Behavior

[Mega-Attributes "in depth", worlds' view of given Mega-Attribute, new enhancements and aberrations. Also the problems that are specific to each Social Mega-Attribute]

[Gideon]

Well here is something I just threw together, based on the intro format of Brainwaves. I made a lot up, but I think it catches the feel. Let me know what you think? Note that "NAME" is a space filler till a name is decided on.

NAME

Welcome to my parlor...(said the spider to the fly)

What is Name?

Name is the first in a series of books of Aberrant sourcebooks that examine the potential and the ramifications of Mega-Attributes in the Nova Age.

Sexy, Savy, and in-control, Mega-Socially gifted novas have dominated the media and backroom dealings of the world from the get-go. From drop dead gorgeous models, to spokes-persons and lawyers that you just can’t deny, these socially adept novas have broken all the rules to etiquette and blackmail. Virtually anyone can be bought, broken or converted if left in the hands of a determined nova socialite.

There is also a growing public consciousness of the risk such novas present in an ever evolving world. What baseline can compete with a nova that can literally possess anything or anyone they desire?

Faces in Aberrant

Faces, Glamours, or models, all describe the stunning beauty of these men and women of human grace. In the comic book world, such beauties were rare gems…

In the Aberrant world these men and women of beauty are the social darlings of the world. Everyone wants to be seen with them, their presence is demanded at the biggest social gatherings, and their images are found across the Optnet. With their beauty they attract both fans and stalkers, jealousy and envy, rarely does a nova with any degree of this Mega-Attribute escape such attention.

The greatest impact Faces have made in baseline society is in the fashion world, where their super-human grace makes any old rag look decent, and even a hideous fashion will become popular if a nova wears it and his fans see him in it. This new form of fashion warfare has caused more than a few squabbles and legal battles over images and likenesses.

Cons in Aberrant

Cons or Dealers, both describe these master manipulators, Mastermind, the Leader from Marvel, Tao from Image, or Dr. Moriarty from the tales of Sherlock Holmes, these represent the most common heroes and villains who typify this mastery of control.

In the Aberrant world these shadowy dealers are often never known or recognized for the powerhouses they are. No one knows who they are, except for the few dare-devils that chance discovery for the brief fame it brings. Most spend their days convincing others to do their bidding, “for their own benefit.”

Cons have had their greatest impact, not from what they have done, but from what certain organizations fear they “might” do. Organizations like the Directive, UN Security Council, and the British MI-5 all have detailed plans of what to do if they detect nova manipulation of their organizations or their governments. These baselines stay-awake nights fearing the damage such a monster could accomplish to their own ends.

Charmers in Aberrant

Charmers, Friendlies, the person you can’t stand to hate, this describes such charismatic heroes as, Lila Chaney, Magneto and Dazzeler from Marvel, .

In the Aberrant world the charmers are not necessarily the most beautiful, or the most successful, but they always have friend willing to help them out. Known to be good listeners, vibrant speakers, or the best friend one could hope for. These social novas are the most beloved by those who know them, and their charm is the hardest to pin down by base-line fans.

Charmers are known as the spokesperson and public faces of many organizations, they are negotiators first, deal makers second (many charmers have at least a dot in Mega-Manipulation) if necessary. A Charmer’s life revolves around their social calendar, as the more they interact with others the more power they gain. Businesses and organizations like Utopia and DeVries have capitalized on this to make them powers in the baseline world.

Name looks at these Charming novas and the implications their powers have for their wielders and the surrounding baselines, as well as, the impact of Faces and Cons on bystanders and their possessors.

How to Use This Book

Integrating Mega-Social novas into a campaign is …This book is meant to give you some insight how you can reign in your Faces, Cons and Charmers.

In Chapter One: Faces of the Worldfind out about some of the organizations that have formed to support the Mega-Social specialists, including some truly bizarre groups. Storytellers will want to check out Chapter Three: Storytelling, to learn about some solid strategies to help keep socially minded novas engaged. Players can jump right into Chapter Two: Manipulative Dealings, to see what new possibilities awaits the Mega-Social nova and then go to Chapter Four: Frightening / Wonderful Behavior, where new Enhancements, and discussions of a few combinations for optimizing Mega-Social novas.

So thats what I came up with. I figure it might inspire others to write more. Or at least inspire others to submit more ideas.

Jack

[Bahamut810]

I like that. We do need at least a working name though.

How about "Worldly Novas" or mabey "Forceful Personalities"...im not too good with Book names though.

[Gideon]

I agree with the above mentioned restriction that using the already relased names, "Brute Force and Cult of Personality" is bad and potentially confusing... ::rolleyes I really like Cult of Personality, especially because the In Living Color song of the same name: http://members.aol.com/Oxym0r0n99/colour.html

but here are the suggestions I have seen so far and a few of my own, in Alphabetical order:

Divas

For the People...

Forceful Personalities

Grand Fasaude

Idols & Beauty

Pantheons

Social Pressure

Worldly Novas

try to keep in mind ::smiley10 that the title will slant expectations of the reader. Ideas? ::devil new titles or titles, that just DON't work for you? ::devilangel

[Bahamut810]

Hmmm...I think it may be time to:

A) find out who all wants to do this (So far it looks like Me, Sproket, T-Dev and Gideon...)

and

get EON approval from Harlie

As for the title (at least working title...) I like Grand Facade.

[Ayre el KaBeer]

I'll throw some more tittles at you; "Eye candy", "Perfect ten", "iN!", "Golden Smiles-Silver Tongues", I think Bahamuts "Forceful Personalities" is pretty good.

I suggest a little section, even a couple of paragraphs, on how effective Mega-Wits is in conjunction with the mega socials.

[Bahamut810]

yay! Someone else liked it...so now I can toot my own horn (so to speak)...I thought Forceful Personalities suited the work pretty well.

[ProfPotts]

You've got to have 'Social Engineering' as a chapter / section title at least!

I'd suggest, if you want to do a book like this, exploring the inter-personal Backgrounds a little as well - Allies, Contacts, Followers, Mentor, & Influence. Maybe a mechanic or two for how Mega-Social effect them? (E.g. something like allowing Mega-Social Novas to buy certain of these Backgrounds above 5 - one extra dot allowed per Mega-Social dot, meaning a maxed out 5 in each Mega-Social guy could have 20 loyal followers).

For cult 'mechanics' I'd suggest looking at the ideas in the Victorian Age Companion for Vampire (the bits about building secret societies, Background pooling & Anchors, stuff like that).

[T-dev]

You know Prof Potts your on to something with the interaction between Backgrounds & Social Attributes; however I think if a background increases above 5 then the Background enhancements from Adventure! should be used.

I think Forceful Personalities should be the working title. Although "Golden Smiles - Silver Tongues" is really kewl too IHMO.

Chapter 4 should definitley have either Social Engineering or Social Pressure as a title.

As to the nicknames: Charmers is great for Mega-Charismatic

Cons just doesn't do it for Mega-Manipulative's IMHO. The name

should sound more neferous & scream evil mastermind.

Instead of Face for Mega-Appearence, why not Idols?

Three cults sound good to me too.

[Ayre el KaBeer]

I think Forceful Personalities should be the working title. Although \"Golden Smiles - Silver Tongues\" is really kewl too IHMO.

Woohoo! My turn to strut! ::biggrin

You know Prof Potts your on to something with the interaction between Backgrounds & Social Attributes; however I think if a background increases above 5 then the Background enhancements from Adventure! should be used.

I agree with both, but how about a high level merit as another (or extra) option?

[Bahamut810]

This is what we have as far from what I can tell. I did change the "faces" title to "Idols" because that does fit them better IMHO...it can be changed if consensus is different though. I put a bit in there that we have talked baout

FORCEFUL PERSONALITIES

Introduction: Welcome to my parlour...(said the spider to the fly)

[intro, lexicon, etc.]

Chapter 1: Faces of the world.

[Mega-Social "who's who"- nova cults/religions, factions, and alternative societies.]

-Faces

-Grifter

-Idols

-Cult of Kali (Novacentric, nova leader)

Chapter 2: Social Engineering

[social maneuvering/conflicts/etc.]

-Mega-Wits and its effects in a social (adapt A! high wits rule here?)

Chapter 3: Storytelling.

[storytelling plots/ideas/ramifications/etc.]

- Count Oraziz (im not sure if we can use him though)

- Grunts, or the wonderful world of getting people to do stuff for you

- Mega-Socials and the Law (this is where we would have all the more *ahem* adult material...which for this project I think should be toned down. No *extreme* stuff, but adult language about what happens.)

Chapter 4: Frightening, Wonderful Behavior

[Mega-Attributes "in depth", worlds' view of given Mega-Attribute, new enhancements and aberrations. Also the problems that are specific to each Social Mega-Attribute]

-Background Enhancements (Masses , Close Family , needs name , Household name , Mega-Mentor )

[Ayre el KaBeer]

Just been chatting with CHILL, and I quote "prolly time for them to contact Harle and give her the full low down so the staff can give it consideration". Goodluck people.

[Bahamut810]

Then allow me the dubious honor...

[ProfPotts]

Any Storytelling chapter would presumably include how to get the impact of Mega-Socials across with more than the, "Ok - you really, really like this guy - no arguments." ST 'mind control' of PCs option.

[Ayre el KaBeer]

\"Ok - you really, really like this guy - no arguments.\" ST 'mind control' of PCs option.

LOL!!! ::laugh

[Gideon]

Well in the vein of the nicknames:

Idols sounds better to me than Faces for Mega-Appearance.

Charmers work for me for Mega-Charismatics

As a thought for the Mega-Manipulators, we could go with:

• Masterminds (not necessarily 'evil' but it isn't fluffy either.)
• Player (e.g. \"...this Player, talked to us and next thing I know we're all forking over our cash!\")
• Grifter (as in the con artist term for themselves)

Just some additional thoughts to chew on... ::smiley10

I also like the ideas folks are sharing, I was REALLY hungry for more development on this topic!! Keep up the good work!

Any Storytelling chapter would presumably include how to get the impact of Mega-Socials across with more than the, \"Ok - you really, really like this guy - no arguments.\" ST 'mind control' of PCs option.

Exactly what we need in probably Chapter 4 (maybe 3 depending how its written up)...

Jack

[Psilord]

The Golden Calf (or Golden Calves)

for possible book title

[phoenix]

Masterminds is taken. It was coined in Brainwaves to mean someone with megaintelligence.

[Gideon]

Oops, my bad. I knew it sounded familiar... ::blush

[Bahamut810]

I like Grifter...it has enough signifigance to mean something and enough of a negative past to make people weary of them.

[Sprocket]

Well, it looks like I've lit a match in a fireworks warehouse... ::devilangel

Re: Nova cults- Aside from the Blood Queen's lackeys , we might also want try try our hand at fleshing out the cults led by Belladonna (the Darker Nature- see the APG) and Kelly "Calliope" Pierson (as seen in the Aberrant Storyteller's Screen). The Divisians might be worth a shot too, as they're a good example of a cult focused on a nova who likely wants nothing to do with them at all! ::laugh

And as for a title... how about "Aberrant: Icons"?

Re: Count Orzaiz- between the Aberrant Storyteller's Screen and the Teragen sourcebook, I think he's pretty well covered for campaigns circa 2008-2020. I'd be interesting to see how he'd develop in the future though- especially after he undergoes his first Chrysalis! (He's got the Marvel Archetype, doesn't he?)

Re: Terms for Mega Manipulative novas- "spin doctors", of course! ::hehe

Re: Chapter 2: Social Engineering- We sould also take a look at the mega-Social rules in the first Aberrant: Worldwide book- if anythin, they look like an embryonic version of what they'd originally been planning to put out in Cult of Personality anyway... ::wink

Re: expanded Backgrounds- all of these ideas sound great! We might also want to put the "Suitors" background I submitted earlier this year in as well- it may've been already put up on the main site, but it's a natural for the Mega-Social book! ::biggrin

BTW, we might want to put in some more stuff about the media (and the N! channel) as well. seeing as how the campaign setting is so media-driven... ::tongue

Re: aberrations- Peter pan might work well in this new book, but where the heck did you find "Lascivious" and "Kharmic Cycle"? I sure haven't seen 'em here on EON, so I can't say whether they're any good or not... ::confused

[Bahamut810]

About the Nova cults:

Thats iffy...we cant do anything claiming to ce Canonical. I would have to ask an EON staffer who knows if we would be able to get by with that (Chill, Harlie?), but I would love to take up that banner myself.

For the title:

Once we get a little farther...I think we will probably have a vote on it to see which it is. We seem to have a few different opinions on the matter, and I think it would be a good "EON touch" for the EON audience to name this book.

To Oraziz:

An Oriziz Cult? Hmmm... To his after Chrysalis self...I think thats way out. Personally I dont think he would undergo the chrysalis.

To: Suitors Background

I think thats a given it will go in with your approval ::wink

To aberrations and such:

I think I may be making a few emails to get permission for a couple megasocial abberations/enhancements (mostly to you I think, Sproket...). They have some submitted that are really suited for this book.

To N!tertainment:

We cant have an abby book without at least one piece of N!tertainment...now can we ::biggrin

[Gideon]

Oh, sorry Lascivious and Kharmic Cycle are a couple of my house aberrations I made up for Mega-Social novas.

Lascivious - A nova with this aberration exudes sexuality constantly, whether they want to or not. If tey are talking to their friends, lovers, enemies, or parents everything they say sounds and loks intentionally sexual or seductive.

SYSTEM: This aberration will cause all applicable observers to make a Willpower roll versus the novas effective Apearance to resist being attracted to the nova. If they fail they will begin to attempt to attract, proposition or stalk the nova. All is not lost for the nova, they can always burn a Willpower point to prevent the inuendo or explicit seduction for one scene. This is a mid-level aberration in my game.

Kharmic Cycle - What goes a round comes around. thats what everyone says, though a nova with this aberration knows its the truth. somehow when ever this nova participats in an activity that hurts or harms another entity, it never fails that the manner in which it was done, or by their reputation alone, they cause a recipracal harm to themselves, eventually. Blow someone's hand off, watch out, maybe that blender is unstable, Ruin someone's reputation, yours may be dragged down with theirs.

SYSTEM: Every time a nova with this aberration performs an act where tey singularly are responsible for harming another physically socially or mentally, something in there nature arranges for a similar fate. For minor acts, at the Storyteller's discretion, the nova may spend a Willpower point to cancel the effect, but Major acts, Storyteller's dicretion, Willpower will only delay it for a short time, and as long as they delay t they cannot regain Willpower normally. This is a High Level aberration.

The first one, was custom for a character, whom always used his sex-appeal to get what he wanted, and when he gained some serious taint I decided, I would give him what he wanted, not punish him... ::halo

The second one, was for an NPC in my last campaign. Seemed to work, but very brutal when he tried to "get back" at Utopia fr something. ::devil

[Sprocket]

Re: "Lascivious" aberration- Check out the "Sex Object" and "Heartthrob" aberrations that I've submitted to EON, Gideon. (They're in the Aberrant Compendium, available for download here at EON.) I think you'll find that they both cover the problem of being too attractive for one's own good rather nicely.

Re: Kharmic Cycle- Uhmm... how is this supposed to be derived form a Mega-Social Attribute? ::confused It sounds like more of a quantum aberration than anything else...

Re: the Suitors adversarial Background- Bahamut, consider my permission to be given- provided that we can actually manage to put the book out at all! ::biggrin

Re: Nova cults- Fair enough, then. I'm sure that there are some folks suitably demented enough around here to come up with ideas for some original cults... ::hehe

Re: my Mega-Social enhancements & aberrations- It's a nice idea, Bahamut, but 99% of those have already been put out by EON in the Aberrant Compendium (shameless plug! ::rolleyes). As I said before, we shouldn't duplicate stuff from that book if there's an alternative- it seems kind of cheap. Oh well... ::closedeyes

Re: title vote- Fine by me, as long as we have a book to slap that title on! ::thumbsup

Re: Raoul Orzaiz- Oh, he'll undergo the Chrysalis in due time- he just wants to get as much out of it as possible, the way Divis Mal did back in the 1930s-40s. (In game terms, he'd be building up a resevior of experience points before triggering the Chrysalis.)

Re: N!tertainment- Why don't you go wild with this one, Bahamut? I'm sure you could think up something suitably outrageous... ::smiley1

[Bahamut810]

Re: Nova cults- Fair enough, then. I'm sure that there are some folks suitably demented enough around here to come up with ideas for some original cults...

Oh, I can...believe me...You have no idea the demented things I can think of... ::devil

Re: N!tertainment- Why don't you go wild with this one, Bahamut? I'm sure you could think up something suitably outrageous...

See above...and im a staunch supporter of hte QNA. ::devil ::devil

I would like official EON word on using thoes afformentioned cults though. I know the QNA is right out...but the Cult of Calliope? I would hope that could be expanded. I dont think we should touch the darker Nature in any case as it is more of a Aberrant: Worldview type suppliment.

[Gideon]

Well I lifted the formatting of Brainwaves from the doc. And created a "neutral" format for either the Mega-Physicals or the Mega-Socials. Just cause. Its at my site:

::biggrin Mega-Template [ZIPPED WORD DOC] ::biggrin

Or we/I can create a new template Style Sheet. ::bigsmile I have a few ideas (especially if we go the pdf route!)

please be gentle to my bandwidth... ::unsure

[Bahamut810]

UPDATE:

Working title: FORCEFUL PERSONALITIES

Introduction: Welcome to my parlour...(said the spider to the fly)

[intro, lexicon, etc.]

-Pretty much written for the most part...need idea's for lexicon

Chapter 1: Faces of the world.

[Mega-Social "who's who"- nova cults/religions, factions, and alternative societies.]

-Faces (Mega-Chr)

-Grifter (Mega-Manip)

-Idols (Mega-App)

-Cult of Kali (Novacentric, nova leader)

-Malachites (Baseline cult worshipping Divis Mal), Paxtons (Basline social group centered on Cestius Pax)

Chapter 2: Social Engineering

[social maneuvering/conflicts/etc.]

-Mega-Wits and its effects in a social (adapt A! high wits rule here?)

-Dealing with 2 mega-social nova's with different agenda's...and one lackey

Chapter 3: Storytelling.

[storytelling plots/ideas/ramifications/etc.]

- Count Oraziz (im not sure if we can use him though)

- Grunts, or the wonderful world of getting people to do stuff for you

- Mega-Socials and the Law (this is where we would have all the more *ahem* adult material...which for this project I think should be toned down. No *extreme* stuff, but adult language about what happens.)

- Mega-socials and your players (or "lets avoid ordering people to like someone")

Chapter 4: Frightening, Wonderful Behavior

[Mega-Attributes "in depth", worlds' view of given Mega-Attribute, new enhancements and aberrations. Also the problems that are specific to each Social Mega-Attribute]

-Background Enhancements (Masses , Close Family , More cash then you can carry, Household name , Mega-Mentor )

- Mega-Chr/App and addictive people (i.e. Stalkers)

- Background: Suitors, Background:

[Bahamut810]

Well I lifted the formatting of Brainwaves from the doc.  And created a "neutral" format for either the Mega-Physicals or the Mega-Socials.  Just cause.  Its at my site:

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<center><a href="http://www.wideopenwest.com/~jsummanen/Mega-Template.zip">Mega-Template [ZIPPED WORD DOC]</a></center>

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Or we/I can create a new template Style Sheet. ::bigsmile I have a few ideas (especially if we go the pdf route!)

please be gentle to my bandwidth... ::unsure

Can you get that in a different format? I dont have word and I dont want to attempt it with wordpad ::blush

On a different note...check N! Prime...they have an official looking version of the book (looks ready to bind!)

[Gideon]

Um for clarification you listed:

Faces, Grifters and Idols. Are Faces Mega-Charismatics?

Or were they still Charmers?? Lost track... ::blush