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Skylion, is that you?

The only comment I can make is that I don't recall Planck Scaling being able to remove taint.

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Absolutely NOT! Mr. Fox and I were surgically separated at birth and have been our own people ever since, thankyouverymuch.

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I've been going thru some of the forum posts, and getting quite a few chuckles out of those alone ^,^

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Thanks for the links, I'm going over the books right now and they have some really good stuff in them. I like The New Flesh a lot. I might just do that, Ask for broken builds that follow CCR, or ask to see interesting character development stories..

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Don't worry about scaring me off lol. I'm really into this, even though I came into the Storyteller system rather late by all accounts. If memory serves my first game was a sabbat game in CWoD in... 2007-ish.

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Welp, necro'ing is fun and this is a topic I've discussed with a friend, some ten years ago or so.

 

No rulebooks here, so I'll try my best from memory, try to interpret odd concepts with an Aberrant filter.

 

I will use some of the same thoughts El'Jinn Uu did, one page and five and a half years ago, mostly Quantum Construct.

 

So. Within the 30 Nova points, max 5 Quantum basic rules.

 

Attribs: Manipulation 5, rest unimportant

Skills: Unimportant.

Backgrounds: Attunement 5, rest unimportant.

Bonus points: Whatever 7 flaws, find some nice comfy ones. 22 points to spend.

21 bonus points on 3 Quantum, 1 point on something unimportant.

Nova points: 30.

What's the Quantum minimum on Quantum Construct? I think it's 4. We have 4. Happy.

Mega-Manipulation 5, 15 points.

Quantum Construct 3, 15 points. (Might want to spend 5 of these on Quantum, I don't have the QC rules to do the math)

 

Now use Quantum Construct to create a construct that can increase your Quantum Construct to 5 through Nova Proxy, as long as the construct's active.

Now use your improved Quantum Construct to create a construct that can use Quantum Manipulation (whatevs, PG, Quantum 7 or 8 requirement I think). Then have that construct raise your Quantum temporarily. Then give you better Mega-Manipulation temporarily.

Now use your improved Quantum Construct boosted by your improved Mega-Manipulation to create a construct that's better at Quantum Manipulation.

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Finally, use your boosted-beyond-recognition QC and MM to create a construct that can use Planck Scaling.

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PROFIT! And no taint.

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Here is the main question: How long in game time would this construct inflation take to reach it's critical mass, and how long would you have with that construct?

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And why would any ST in their right minds let you create a Construct that has powers that you don't and can't easily imagine?

 

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I think he's arguing this theoretically anyway. This isn't a story of how he did it, just a build that would pwn the game/world/ST's souls. I'll note that this post is about people creating the ultimate nova - transcending the game's limits as much as possible. This would do it.

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I think he's arguing this theoretically anyway. This isn't a story of how he did it, just a build that would pwn the game/world/ST's souls. I'll note that this post is about people creating the ultimate nova - transcending the game's limits as much as possible. This would do it.

 

Exactly, nothing playable or interesting about this character-less "character". Just an attempt to (ab)use the rules, doing the "rules as written, not as intended or as the ST interprets"-bit, to somewhere close to their limit.

 

I saw this thread (it was on the first page, not THAT deep necro!) and got a bit distraught that the suggestions required too many points, relaxed character creation rules or just weren't broken enough. ;)

 

Here is the main question: How long in game time would this construct inflation take to reach it's critical mass, and how long would you have with that construct?

 

No rulebooks, so...hopefully long enough? :)

 

The goal is to inflate until you reach powers that permanently boost you. If that IS possible, even a tiny bit of permanent improvement, then (if you run out of time/QP) you can start over again, from a beter startpoint. Eventually, you'll reach Planck Scaling and Apotheosis.

 

Of course, if durations/QP run out before you hit any permanent benefits, the build just won't work. Making it slightly more useless than I thought it was.

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